tangs?????????????????
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1journeyman
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Tangs grow quite big (if they are healthy) and need lot's of swimming room and lot's of live rock to graze on. Generally accpeted that a 6 foot or longer tank is best suited for them.
You'll here people say otherwise (often because they have Tangs in smaller tanks), but once you observe a Tang in a long tank you'll see why.
You'll here people say otherwise (often because they have Tangs in smaller tanks), but once you observe a Tang in a long tank you'll see why.
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by J.P
http:///forum/post/2468576
yyellows and purples could prolly go in a 75 but it is not reccomended the rule of thumb is no less than a 6 foot tank (125 and up)
Not if they are healthy.
A yellow Tang can get close to 7 inches, a Purple even larger.
Fish that size, that are active swimmers, cannot fit in a 4 foot tank.
http:///forum/post/2468576
yyellows and purples could prolly go in a 75 but it is not reccomended the rule of thumb is no less than a 6 foot tank (125 and up)
Not if they are healthy.
A yellow Tang can get close to 7 inches, a Purple even larger.
Fish that size, that are active swimmers, cannot fit in a 4 foot tank.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2468577
Tangs grow quite big (if they are healthy) and need lot's of swimming room and lot's of live rock to graze on. Generally accpeted that a 6 foot or longer tank is best suited for them.
You'll here people say otherwise (often because they have Tangs in smaller tanks), but once you observe a Tang in a long tank you'll see why.
I think the above statement says it it all. Although tangs might survive in a smaller tank; they just look and act healthier and more natural in a bigger one. I've kept tangs in 4' tanks; but, never will again.
http:///forum/post/2468577
Tangs grow quite big (if they are healthy) and need lot's of swimming room and lot's of live rock to graze on. Generally accpeted that a 6 foot or longer tank is best suited for them.
You'll here people say otherwise (often because they have Tangs in smaller tanks), but once you observe a Tang in a long tank you'll see why.
j.p
Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2468583
Not if they are healthy.
A yellow Tang can get close to 7 inches, a Purple even larger.
Fish that size, that are active swimmers, cannot fit in a 4 foot tank.
true true
http:///forum/post/2468583
Not if they are healthy.
A yellow Tang can get close to 7 inches, a Purple even larger.
Fish that size, that are active swimmers, cannot fit in a 4 foot tank.
true true
wangotango
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Originally Posted by new-guy
http:///forum/post/2468603
I WAS HOPING IT WAS OK TO BE IN A 45 TALL?
There are plenty of other cool fish out there. Gobies, blennies, and wrasses are all fish that have great personality, something that tangs don't always have.
-Justin
http:///forum/post/2468603
I WAS HOPING IT WAS OK TO BE IN A 45 TALL?
There are plenty of other cool fish out there. Gobies, blennies, and wrasses are all fish that have great personality, something that tangs don't always have.
-Justin
paintballer768
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I hear tangs do best in a 20 gallon. Just kidding!!!
45 tall, I would recommend to stay away from the tangs and go for more blennies, gobies, and wrasses route. Something like that. All info said about tangs has been accurate so I would definitely use that.
45 tall, I would recommend to stay away from the tangs and go for more blennies, gobies, and wrasses route. Something like that. All info said about tangs has been accurate so I would definitely use that.
brewski4u1
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so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
bjoe23
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Originally Posted by Brewski4u1
http:///forum/post/2469012
so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
I dont get why you have to argue, its true, they already explained why. People have tangs in 20 gallons and it lives for awhile, but it is not happy or healthly, they get 7 inches. I 7 inch fish swimming around in a 48 inch long tank wont be happy. Its like keeping you in a 10 by 10 room
How long is a 90 gallon tank? is that 6 feet?
http:///forum/post/2469012
so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
I dont get why you have to argue, its true, they already explained why. People have tangs in 20 gallons and it lives for awhile, but it is not happy or healthly, they get 7 inches. I 7 inch fish swimming around in a 48 inch long tank wont be happy. Its like keeping you in a 10 by 10 room
How long is a 90 gallon tank? is that 6 feet?
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Brewski4u1
http:///forum/post/2469012
so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
I'm curious how a 7 inch, active-swimming fish lives for years in a 40 gallon tank?
Six foot tanks are 33% longer than a 4 foot tank. That gives the Tang much more area to swim and graze. I said, btw, at least 6 foot. The bigger the better.
People often confuse a small, stunted Tang for a "happy" Tang in a small tank. They are not the same thing.
http:///forum/post/2469012
so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
I'm curious how a 7 inch, active-swimming fish lives for years in a 40 gallon tank?
Six foot tanks are 33% longer than a 4 foot tank. That gives the Tang much more area to swim and graze. I said, btw, at least 6 foot. The bigger the better.
People often confuse a small, stunted Tang for a "happy" Tang in a small tank. They are not the same thing.
srfisher17
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Many tangs are incredibly hardy fish. But there is a big difference between a "live" fish and a "thriving" fish. I really don't know what a "happy" fish is; I doubt that is even an emotion that can be attributed to fish; which are not very high on the evolutionary ladder. IMO, a fish's only real concerns are reproducing, eating, and not being eaten. ( Kind of like the French
) I try to remember that this forum is an exchange of ideas and experiences; not a place to find set-in-stone rules. I'll never tell anyone what they can or can't do with a fish; eat him if you want to. That being said, IMO & IME--tangs do not look as healthy & robust in smaller tanks. In the wild, they live in the open area around the reef, not among the coral heads. The more swimming room they have the better (IMO, at least 6')...the rest is an individual decision.
m0nk
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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2469869
Many tangs are incredibly hardy fish. But there is a big difference between a "live" fish and a "thriving" fish. I really don't know what a "happy" fish is; I doubt that is even an emotion that can be attributed to fish; which are not very high on the evolutionary ladder. IMO, a fish's only real concerns are reproducing, eating, and not being eaten. ( Kind of like the French
) I try to remember that this forum is an exchange of ideas and experiences; not a place to find set-in-stone rules. I'll never tell anyone what they can or can't do with a fish; eat him if you want to. That being said, IMO & IME--tangs do not look as healthy & robust in smaller tanks. In the wild, they live in the open area around the reef, not among the coral heads. The more swimming room they have the better (IMO, at least 6')...the rest is an individual decision.
I agree 100%
The most we can do is say why we believe that a tang shouldn't be in anything shorter than 6' long and then it's the responsibility of the individual to follow through on advice or ignore it knowing the implications. If you ask why you can't have a tang in a 45g, then put one in anyway, then it gets sick, you already know the answer why that happened and there's no advice we can give you other than that it doesn't belong there.
http:///forum/post/2469869
Many tangs are incredibly hardy fish. But there is a big difference between a "live" fish and a "thriving" fish. I really don't know what a "happy" fish is; I doubt that is even an emotion that can be attributed to fish; which are not very high on the evolutionary ladder. IMO, a fish's only real concerns are reproducing, eating, and not being eaten. ( Kind of like the French
The most we can do is say why we believe that a tang shouldn't be in anything shorter than 6' long and then it's the responsibility of the individual to follow through on advice or ignore it knowing the implications. If you ask why you can't have a tang in a 45g, then put one in anyway, then it gets sick, you already know the answer why that happened and there's no advice we can give you other than that it doesn't belong there.
srfisher17
Active Member
m0nk;2469907 said:I agree 100%
The most we can do is say why we believe that a tang shouldn't be in anything shorter than 6' long and then it's the responsibility of the individual to follow through on advice or ignore it knowing the implications. If you ask why you can't have a tang in a 45g, then put one in anyway, then it gets sick, you already know the answer why that happened and there's no advice we can give you other than that it doesn't belong there.[/QUO
Well put. I don't like to say this (yes, I do); but, it often seems that there are two types of questions and comments on our forum. Genuine, info seeking questions/comments and trying-to-justify what I'm already doing questions/comments.
ophiura
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Originally Posted by Brewski4u1
http:///forum/post/2469012
so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
I could ask you this question too, did you talk to the tang to see if it was fine?
Because simple biology is at work here. A HEALTHY or "fine" tang should absolutely outgrow that tank in a year...let alone several. Since they have not, by definition they are no where near "fine." Stunted growth is a problem.
http:///forum/post/2469012
so why in a 6 foot or lager tank !! witch one of you talked to your tang? and did he actually tell you he wants a 6 foot tank if i was him i waoud have asked for a bigger tank ! i've seen plenty of people w/ tangs in 40 breeders and 55 that live there just fine for many and many years!
I could ask you this question too, did you talk to the tang to see if it was fine?
Because simple biology is at work here. A HEALTHY or "fine" tang should absolutely outgrow that tank in a year...let alone several. Since they have not, by definition they are no where near "fine." Stunted growth is a problem.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/2469949
I could ask you this question too, did you talk to the tang to see if it was fine?
Because simple biology is at work here. A HEALTHY or "fine" tang should absolutely outgrow that tank in a year...let alone several. Since they have not, by definition they are no where near "fine." Stunted growth is a problem.
I just can't avoid this type of discussion. Ophiura, you nailed this whole question; to some folks "fine" means "alive". While "alive" isn't what I thrive for in this hobby; I guess if "alive" is ok with an individual, then I don't have the moral authority to put anyone on a guilt trip. But, IMO, "alive" just isn't what this wonderful hobby is all about; watching fish "thrive" is. I know we can't re-create the ocean. We take away a fish's reproductive rights in exchange for food & safety. That's sounds like a fair deal and probably makes the fish as "happy" as a fish is capable of being...............(What drivel, huh?)
http:///forum/post/2469949
I could ask you this question too, did you talk to the tang to see if it was fine?
Because simple biology is at work here. A HEALTHY or "fine" tang should absolutely outgrow that tank in a year...let alone several. Since they have not, by definition they are no where near "fine." Stunted growth is a problem.
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by mcbdz
http:///forum/post/2470645
I want in on this just for the fun of it. I think we really haven't found the right size tank yet. Wouldn't a true ideal size be when the fish are comfortable enough to spawn? We have not had much success with that with tangs yet. I say let's go bigger.
Hmm..
Quite possibly a great point. I'm not sure Tangs haven't spawned in captivity though.
Their young go through a planktonic stage, however. I think that is where they die out in captvity.
http:///forum/post/2470645
I want in on this just for the fun of it. I think we really haven't found the right size tank yet. Wouldn't a true ideal size be when the fish are comfortable enough to spawn? We have not had much success with that with tangs yet. I say let's go bigger.
Hmm..
Quite possibly a great point. I'm not sure Tangs haven't spawned in captivity though.
Their young go through a planktonic stage, however. I think that is where they die out in captvity.