waterworld
Member
Wonder if it would be worth trying to track down someone at AGA to review the pictures and provide any input? Does anyone have any contact info for them?
Thanks
WW
Thanks
WW
Tank Cracked and the Worst Has Happened
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waterworld
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I am prone to think a tank somewhat out of level would not be much of a problem. 1/8" out of level from front to back or end to end is not going to seem to make a great difference in water pressure etc. I would think a bigger factor would be a tank that has a "twist" to it, meaning two opposing corners are high and the pressures are then not straight out on the glass or tank structure.
Does this make sense?
WW
Does this make sense?
WW
rykna
Active Member
Originally Posted by SCSInet
Well let me tell you ... since I wrote that I've been running 'round the house re-checking level on all of my tanks...
Floors can and do deflect over time with the application of a concentrated live load.
Not to mention change and heave during winter.
Well let me tell you ... since I wrote that I've been running 'round the house re-checking level on all of my tanks...
Floors can and do deflect over time with the application of a concentrated live load.
Not to mention change and heave during winter.
rykna
Active Member
Originally Posted by Waterworld
Wonder if it would be worth trying to track down someone at AGA to review the pictures and provide any input? Does anyone have any contact info for them?
Thanks
WW
Well, you home insurance should cover the tank and stand. It is furniture. I ask my home insurance company specifically what would be covered if my tanks ever "exploded". Our agent said definately the tank and stand and any damage to the house.
Wonder if it would be worth trying to track down someone at AGA to review the pictures and provide any input? Does anyone have any contact info for them?
Thanks
WW
Well, you home insurance should cover the tank and stand. It is furniture. I ask my home insurance company specifically what would be covered if my tanks ever "exploded". Our agent said definately the tank and stand and any damage to the house.
trippkid
Active Member
I found this, I don't know if is current, if you click the link, it took me to Aqueon, I don't know if it is the same company or not, if I find anything else I will let you know. Yes that is strange if everything was cool for just about 4 yrs. Really sorry what has happened. Did you contact your insurance or is that not an option?
All Glass Aquarium Co Inc
9675 S 60th St
Franklin, WI 53132
United States
Tel: 414-421-9670
URL: http://www.all-glass.com
All Glass Aquarium Co Inc
9675 S 60th St
Franklin, WI 53132
United States
Tel: 414-421-9670
URL: http://www.all-glass.com
brandon7491
Member
i woulndnt quit if i were you. hey i mean u saved pretty much everything. i would %100 contact ur home owners insurance. A guy i know had his 92gallon bow go up in flames due to a bad mh wiring and home owners insurance insured all his livestock and tank,lighting,skimmer,ect... so now he has a 120 deltec skimmer,2 vortecs,solana lighting the works. i bet ur homeowners insurance would cover it because it techanally was a flood.
acrylic51
Active Member
Man.....that does suck......sorry about your luck......
Most homeowners insurance will pay for cost of cleanup and equipment loss and damage, but as far as livestock and such I find that rather hard to believe.....Most policies have clauses plain as day, that they don't cover mamals, birds, fish, etc.......I've even gone so far as to get an Inland Marine policy, and that's iffy........
Regardless a terrible thing.....Are you sure you didn't have a rock slide or something fall in that area? Possibly might have been knocked during room renovations......It's possible with the tank sitting on the carpet that did have some affect or cause undue stress????
Most people will advise strongly against setting a tank up on carpet due to the padding and such compacting over time causing a shift.
As far as AGA honestly taking blame for something like this????
fat chance......Contact your homeowners, and see what they'll cover, and don't give up on the hobby......Maybe just take a break and reevaluate things, and come back strong........
Regardless a terrible thing.....Are you sure you didn't have a rock slide or something fall in that area? Possibly might have been knocked during room renovations......It's possible with the tank sitting on the carpet that did have some affect or cause undue stress????
As far as AGA honestly taking blame for something like this????
J
jrthomas40
Guest
well look at it this way...no better time than now to get those hard wood or tile floor the wifey always wanted...
waterworld
Member
You know a point was made in a previous post that maybe some rocks had shifted.
I did not mention in my previous long drawn out posts that rocks falling was in fact the first thing I thought as I pulled the plug on the sytem in the first 15 seconds. But like most of the crazies in this hobby I do know where each of my rocks are placed and positioned and I looked first thing and none were out of place. I have been very careful to always postion rocks to be stable so they would not shift or fall and strike the glass.
I am contacting my insurance company today but probably will not benefit much by that. As much as I hate to clean-up water I hate paying insurance companies more and had last spring raised my deductable. Certainly will try but did not realize they may cover the cost of the tank as well. The carpet would be under the deductable level. Looking at the bright side at least we were not gone for a weeks vacation!
I do appreciate any additional opinons on a cause. I do not even want to think of getting another tank not knowing what to do different.
Thanks
WW
I did not mention in my previous long drawn out posts that rocks falling was in fact the first thing I thought as I pulled the plug on the sytem in the first 15 seconds. But like most of the crazies in this hobby I do know where each of my rocks are placed and positioned and I looked first thing and none were out of place. I have been very careful to always postion rocks to be stable so they would not shift or fall and strike the glass.
I am contacting my insurance company today but probably will not benefit much by that. As much as I hate to clean-up water I hate paying insurance companies more and had last spring raised my deductable. Certainly will try but did not realize they may cover the cost of the tank as well. The carpet would be under the deductable level. Looking at the bright side at least we were not gone for a weeks vacation!
I do appreciate any additional opinons on a cause. I do not even want to think of getting another tank not knowing what to do different.
Thanks
WW
scsinet
Active Member
Originally Posted by acrylic51
Did you pull the tank off the stand yet? How was the levelness of the top of the stand? Any raised area on the stand under the suspected start of the break?
yeah... I'd be interested to find out the stand was planar...
The floor perhaps was level, but if the stand was out of planar, it cound have caused torsion stress on the tank, which will make it break easily.
The easiest way to find out is to lay a straight edge along each horizontal surface tha the tank contacted and verify flatness, and also to measure from the spot where the stand touched the floor to where the tank rested all the way around and make sure it was spot on.
Really though, it could have been the carpet as acrylic suggested... if the stand was not strong enough to withstand torquing from sitting on an uneven support surface (I.E. carpet), then the weight of the tank could have caused the stand to bear down further into the carpet in one spot, causing the stand to torque, and the tank to undergo torsion stress.
I have my 180g sitting on carpet... makes me think... but I built my stand heavy enough to withstand this... I hope
Did you pull the tank off the stand yet? How was the levelness of the top of the stand? Any raised area on the stand under the suspected start of the break?
yeah... I'd be interested to find out the stand was planar...
The floor perhaps was level, but if the stand was out of planar, it cound have caused torsion stress on the tank, which will make it break easily.
The easiest way to find out is to lay a straight edge along each horizontal surface tha the tank contacted and verify flatness, and also to measure from the spot where the stand touched the floor to where the tank rested all the way around and make sure it was spot on.
Really though, it could have been the carpet as acrylic suggested... if the stand was not strong enough to withstand torquing from sitting on an uneven support surface (I.E. carpet), then the weight of the tank could have caused the stand to bear down further into the carpet in one spot, causing the stand to torque, and the tank to undergo torsion stress.
I have my 180g sitting on carpet... makes me think... but I built my stand heavy enough to withstand this... I hope
ifirefight
Active Member
Man that stinks, sorry for your loss. Dont give up on this hobby though.
After reading all these posts,,,,Im really glad we have cement foundations in Florida. No need to worry about weight issues or shifting.
groupergenius
Active Member
My 90 is 3/8" out of level from left to right.
I'm sweating it now.
wattsupdoc
Active Member
I do appreciate any additional opinons on a cause. I do not even want to think of getting another tank not knowing what to do different.
One word, ACRYLIC
waterworld
Member
I will get a straight edge and check the stand for flatness etc tomorrow. I have made contact with a person at AGA for their review of the pictures. They were very willing to help me and replied promptly to my request. So far so good with AGA and it will be good to get their thoughts.
My insurance company will cover the carpet past my deductible but not the tank itself. Coverage would be for the damage only and not the breakage.
We will see what develops tomorrow.
WW
My insurance company will cover the carpet past my deductible but not the tank itself. Coverage would be for the damage only and not the breakage.
We will see what develops tomorrow.
WW
florida joe
Well-Known Member
My friend trust me this to shall pass and you will live to hobby another day
