renogaw
Active Member
unreal... i'm glad i moved out of bloomfield...
http://www.wfsb.com/health/19253629/detail.html
http://www.wfsb.com/health/19253629/detail.html
Tap water = mandarin's dream!
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sueandherzoo
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3025673
unreal... i'm glad i moved out of bloomfield...
http://www.wfsb.com/health/19253629/detail.html
I was going to seek you out this morning and ask you if I might be running into you up north loading up buckets of water to bring to our copepod-loving pets!
Are there both saltwater and fresh water copepods and rotifers?????
Sue
http:///forum/post/3025673
unreal... i'm glad i moved out of bloomfield...
http://www.wfsb.com/health/19253629/detail.html
I was going to seek you out this morning and ask you if I might be running into you up north loading up buckets of water to bring to our copepod-loving pets!
Are there both saltwater and fresh water copepods and rotifers?????
Sue
renogaw
Active Member
Originally Posted by SueAndHerZoo
http:///forum/post/3025686
I was going to seek you out this morning and ask you if I might be running into you up north loading up buckets of water to bring to our copepod-loving pets!
Are there both saltwater and fresh water copepods and rotifers?????
Sue
there must be, but i'd be interested in cranberry's input on this, she's a copepod guru
http:///forum/post/3025686
I was going to seek you out this morning and ask you if I might be running into you up north loading up buckets of water to bring to our copepod-loving pets!
Are there both saltwater and fresh water copepods and rotifers?????
Sue
there must be, but i'd be interested in cranberry's input on this, she's a copepod guru
sueandherzoo
Active Member
This hobby really does turn us into strange people. There were a bunch of people around when the news broadcast announced copepods and rotifers in the drinking water -- everyone else's eyes lit up in horror and mine lit up with excitement as if it were a GOOD thing! LOL
Sue
Sue
uneverno
Active Member
I love the article. "The department said the concern is that because the organisms were found in drinking water, there may be a problem with the filtration system or the way the water is stored or treated."
Ya think????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwauk...idium_outbreak
That was fun. They pretty much never go away - I've still got them.
Ya think????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwauk...idium_outbreak
That was fun. They pretty much never go away - I've still got them.
sueandherzoo
Active Member
Next time someone is ragging on us about how expensive this hobby is we can justify it by stating that this hobby can and might possibly save our lives! Most reefers who are even slightly serious about this hobby have an RO/DI unit. We can laugh in the face of these water scares.
Sue
Sue
coral keeper
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3026340
cranberry are there different copepods/rotifers for FW and SW? if not, i'm going tomorrow...
There are FW and SW copepods and rotifers.
http:///forum/post/3026340
cranberry are there different copepods/rotifers for FW and SW? if not, i'm going tomorrow...
There are FW and SW copepods and rotifers.
cranberry
Active Member
If you live close the town I would so totally get some. They won't live very long in your tank but your tank will love the treat. Most of the commercially available cultures are the marine variety. I'll trade someone some nutritious phyto for a bottle of the copepod water. Remember, you are what you eat and you could bump up their worth with phyto.
EDIT: And I would test the water for chlorine right after I got it... just for curiousity.
EDIT: And I would test the water for chlorine right after I got it... just for curiousity.
aquaknight
Active Member
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Freshwater copepods (e.g., Cyclops)
These tiny freshwater relatives of the marine versions seen in virtually any coral reef aquarium often provide a simpler and cheaper alternative food than their marine cousins for feeding to planktivorous marine fishes. They are also usually devoured by coral reef invertebrates such as cleaner shrimps, gorgonians, soft and hard corals, brittle stars and sea cucumbers as well, making them a highly desirable food item. Although marine copepods are not easily available as a commercial food product, freshwater copepods can be harvested from local ponds or lakes, and there are a couple of commercial sources for either frozen or freeze-dried copepods as well. The reason that I am emphasizing these little "bugs" (no they are not really bugs, but that is what most people consider them to be) is that copepods are among the most nutritious of all food items in the ocean. Fortunately, even if the fish do not naturally feed on copepods, many plankton feeders (even picky feeders like pipefish and Anthias) in the sea readily accept freshwater copepods as a suitable alternative.
Given that copepods are a commonly offered and readily accepted by most plankton-feeding marine fishes, the easy availability of freshwater species makes them a simple option for feeding your fish. But remember, that I said there were two important things to consider for any food: 1) the right size/taste, and 2) the nutritional value of the food. So, I've said that the size, shape and taste of these tiny crustaceans appear to be acceptable for most plankton-feeding marine fishes, what about the nutritional value? Well, it turns out that copepods are one of the most nutritious plankton foods in the ocean, and a variety of studies have shown that feeding them can significantly decrease the rate of disease and death among juvenile fishes raised in captivity. For example, a recent presentation by Todd Gardner at the International Marine Aquarium Conference (IMAC) in Chicago showed that feeding baby seahorses on a diet of copepods for a few days before switching them onto enriched baby brine shrimp led to dramatic increases in the rate of survival compared to treatments in which the juvenile seahorses were fed only on enriched brine shrimp. Results such as Todd reported (Gardner 2003) are becoming more common, both in the hobby and in aquaculture efforts. In fact, copepods are so highly sought-after that many commercial aquaculture facilities are actively pursuing techniques to raise copepods in sufficient numbers to use as a reliable food supply for juvenile fishes. There are also a number of popular fishes (such as the Mandarin Goby or Scooter Blenny) that actually specialize on these little crustaceans. Unfortunately, there are currently no commercial sources of live copepods for either the aquaculture or aquarium industries, but there are a couple of suppliers of freshwater copepods in frozen or freeze-dried forms. In addition, there is always the tried-and-true method of going out to harvest your own, and whether fresh- or saltwater, adding copepods to the feeding regimen of your marine aquarium is sure to be a benefit to many of your pets.
Freshwater copepods (e.g., Cyclops)
These tiny freshwater relatives of the marine versions seen in virtually any coral reef aquarium often provide a simpler and cheaper alternative food than their marine cousins for feeding to planktivorous marine fishes. They are also usually devoured by coral reef invertebrates such as cleaner shrimps, gorgonians, soft and hard corals, brittle stars and sea cucumbers as well, making them a highly desirable food item. Although marine copepods are not easily available as a commercial food product, freshwater copepods can be harvested from local ponds or lakes, and there are a couple of commercial sources for either frozen or freeze-dried copepods as well. The reason that I am emphasizing these little "bugs" (no they are not really bugs, but that is what most people consider them to be) is that copepods are among the most nutritious of all food items in the ocean. Fortunately, even if the fish do not naturally feed on copepods, many plankton feeders (even picky feeders like pipefish and Anthias) in the sea readily accept freshwater copepods as a suitable alternative.
Given that copepods are a commonly offered and readily accepted by most plankton-feeding marine fishes, the easy availability of freshwater species makes them a simple option for feeding your fish. But remember, that I said there were two important things to consider for any food: 1) the right size/taste, and 2) the nutritional value of the food. So, I've said that the size, shape and taste of these tiny crustaceans appear to be acceptable for most plankton-feeding marine fishes, what about the nutritional value? Well, it turns out that copepods are one of the most nutritious plankton foods in the ocean, and a variety of studies have shown that feeding them can significantly decrease the rate of disease and death among juvenile fishes raised in captivity. For example, a recent presentation by Todd Gardner at the International Marine Aquarium Conference (IMAC) in Chicago showed that feeding baby seahorses on a diet of copepods for a few days before switching them onto enriched baby brine shrimp led to dramatic increases in the rate of survival compared to treatments in which the juvenile seahorses were fed only on enriched brine shrimp. Results such as Todd reported (Gardner 2003) are becoming more common, both in the hobby and in aquaculture efforts. In fact, copepods are so highly sought-after that many commercial aquaculture facilities are actively pursuing techniques to raise copepods in sufficient numbers to use as a reliable food supply for juvenile fishes. There are also a number of popular fishes (such as the Mandarin Goby or Scooter Blenny) that actually specialize on these little crustaceans. Unfortunately, there are currently no commercial sources of live copepods for either the aquaculture or aquarium industries, but there are a couple of suppliers of freshwater copepods in frozen or freeze-dried forms. In addition, there is always the tried-and-true method of going out to harvest your own, and whether fresh- or saltwater, adding copepods to the feeding regimen of your marine aquarium is sure to be a benefit to many of your pets.
renogaw
Active Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3026413
If you live close the town I would so totally get some. They won't live very long in your tank but your tank will love the treat. Most of the commercially available cultures are the marine variety. I'll trade someone some nutritious phyto for a bottle of the copepod water. Remember, you are what you eat and you could bump up their worth with phyto.
EDIT: And I would test the water for chlorine right after I got it... just for curiousity.
hmm...
how can i get some water for you lol... let me find out
http:///forum/post/3026413
If you live close the town I would so totally get some. They won't live very long in your tank but your tank will love the treat. Most of the commercially available cultures are the marine variety. I'll trade someone some nutritious phyto for a bottle of the copepod water. Remember, you are what you eat and you could bump up their worth with phyto.
EDIT: And I would test the water for chlorine right after I got it... just for curiousity.
hmm...
how can i get some water for you lol... let me find out
renogaw
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3026611
hmm...
how can i get some water for you lol... let me find out
that was quick...
a coworker lives in east granby and i'll ask him to bring me in some water. you seriously want it? his town was not taken off the watch list as of this morning.
http:///forum/post/3026611
hmm...
how can i get some water for you lol... let me find out
that was quick...
a coworker lives in east granby and i'll ask him to bring me in some water. you seriously want it? his town was not taken off the watch list as of this morning.
cranberry
Active Member
Ya seriously... if you get it and see there's stuff floating in it!
The best phytos for copepods are Tetraselmis and Isochrysis. Tetra is something that would last you longer but the lipid profile on Iso is amazing.
You share water... I'll share phyto..... with your overall cloices being
Nannocloropsis
Isochrysis
Tetraselmis
Rhodomonas
The best phytos for copepods are Tetraselmis and Isochrysis. Tetra is something that would last you longer but the lipid profile on Iso is amazing.
You share water... I'll share phyto..... with your overall cloices being
Nannocloropsis
Isochrysis
Tetraselmis
Rhodomonas
sueandherzoo
Active Member
I might be driving through a few of the affected cities this weekend. Since I don't know anyone who lives up there, I'm open to suggestions as to how to get some water for observation or feeding of my critters. I might look a little strange walking into a restaurant to use their rest room carrying a five-gallon bucket. LOL
Actually maybe if I could find a park perhaps they have public drinking fountains? Hmmmmmm...... scratching head and thinking.......
Actually maybe if I could find a park perhaps they have public drinking fountains? Hmmmmmm...... scratching head and thinking.......