Tek vs Nova Ext Pro

cahuama

Member
I'm about to purchase a 48" light fixture for my 75 gallon tank. I was looking to get the Nova Extreme Pro, but someone recommended the Tek as a better option. The Tek has 4 bulbs and the Pro has 6 bulbs. What do you recommend?
I would like to keep some soft corals, a clam, some anemonies. What do you think?
 

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by cahuama
http:///forum/post/2596789
I'm about to purchase a 48" light fixture for my 75 gallon tank. I was looking to get the Nova Extreme Pro, but someone recommended the Tek as a better option. The Tek has 4 bulbs and the Pro has 6 bulbs. What do you recommend?
I would like to keep some soft corals, a clam, some anemonies. What do you think?

The tek is a million percent better and you can go up to a 8 bulb tek as I have on my 75 gallon.
I ran 4 white two on each outside then in the middle 1 purple then 1 blue then purple then blue. they come on at 8 a.m. and at 11 a.m. my whites hit and wham let their be light. Then the whites are out at 5 p.m. and its back to the purple and blue till 9 p.m. No problems with heat with the 8 bulb sitting about 7 inches above my water. I love it and you could not pay me to have a nova. I was close to buying one once then seeing them on the same tank then the tek i went oh yea tek all the way.
 

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2596896
The Nova Pro isn't far behind the Tek. Get a 6 lamp Tek if you go that route.
I know you been at this a lot longer than I have but please explain how it is not far behind ?
I am running an 8 bulb on my 75 same tank as his 8 giesemann bulbs... each at 54w... The nova can not even come close to that or even of the 6 bulb.
If you would like I can show you the difference with the same tank with both lights on them as we did it again yesterday at my lfs where I bought a couple more tanks a 125 and a 315 and a few other things.
please pm me and I'll send the pics as I can not post them on here as its at a lfs.
We did put giesemann bulbs in the nova and it was like a completely different light but still nowhere near the par due to reflectors/bulbs and light altogether.
 

cahuama

Member
So the tek is better. Will the 4 bulb be enough for my 75 gl? I know 6 or 8 is better, but my economy won't go that far.
Thank you for your responses.
 

dragonzim

Active Member
A lot will depend on what you are looking to keep, coral-wise. I have the 6 bulb TEK on my 75 and I couldnt be happier with it.
 

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by cahuama
http:///forum/post/2597441
So the tek is better. Will the 4 bulb be enough for my 75 gl? I know 6 or 8 is better, but my economy won't go that far.
Thank you for your responses.


Can you afford the 6 bulb and just put in 2 bulbs as it would still be better than the nova pro if you use quality bulbs. then next paycheck buy 2 more and so on.
I am working on sending someone the pictures of two on the same tank just waiting on a guy to send them to me.... I left a message so hopefully I get them tonight.
 

fats71

Active Member
Here is a pic of my tek first day with bulbs.
2 purple 2 blue 4 white.
on the far left you can see my stock bar I just took off when I took the pic.
I will snap some shots with all bulbs on later..
The bulbs are just turned on for the first time so not broke in yet. I like the blue tint hence my colors I chose.

this is with all burning.

This is my corals after running on a stock perfecto bar for two plus months they have trippled in size with the stock light but the color was never shown and washed out. They are certainly looking tons better after just three days now.


Here is a link to more pics. I took at the same time.https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/319068/new-tanks-and-toys-diary
 

chilwil84

Active Member
i dont know which one is better because i havent read about anyone running tests on the current pro. just basing which one is better based on which one looks brighter to the human eye is far from an accurate way of judging a fixture. a six bulb fixture with slighly inferior reflectors can be preety close if not better than a 4 bulb fixture with better reflectors. i dont know the price difference between the 2 fixtures, but i do know current products tend to vary highly in price from dealer to dealer so be sure to check around.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2596911
I know you been at this a lot longer than I have but please explain how it is not far behind ?
I am running an 8 bulb on my 75 same tank as his 8 giesemann bulbs... each at 54w... The nova can not even come close to that or even of the 6 bulb.
If you would like I can show you the difference with the same tank with both lights on them as we did it again yesterday at my lfs where I bought a couple more tanks a 125 and a 315 and a few other things.
please pm me and I'll send the pics as I can not post them on here as its at a lfs.
We did put giesemann bulbs in the nova and it was like a completely different light but still nowhere near the par due to reflectors/bulbs and light altogether.
What PAR numbers did you get?
The lamps on the Nova pretty much suck, at least the blues do. The lamps are no way to judge the output of the fixture. You want to use the same lamps when doing the comparison.
What the Nova's lack in reflector they gain in active cooling. The Tek loses better than 20% because of the lack of any active cooling. I've hit one from the top with a fan and measured it. 152 vs 189 with a fan just blowing over the top of the fixture. Another guy was able to boost the output of his Tek by 25% blowing a fan in one end. As bozo as the Nova reflectors are they do help over a plain flat one.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by chilwil84
http:///forum/post/2597897
i dont know which one is better because i havent read about anyone running tests on the current pro. just basing which one is better based on which one looks brighter to the human eye is far from an accurate way of judging a fixture. a six bulb fixture with slighly inferior reflectors can be preety close if not better than a 4 bulb fixture with better reflectors. i dont know the price difference between the 2 fixtures, but i do know current products tend to vary highly in price from dealer to dealer so be sure to check around.
No, I did mesure PAR on the Nova Pro. 4 Blue Plus lamps, 1 Aquascience Special and 1 Aquascience DUO lamp which are slightly less potent than a Aquablue over a 22" tall tank. Light was sitting on tank frame. Water level about an inch and a half below. Sensor on sandbend about 17.5" below that. PAR was 224. According to Sanjay Joshi 150 is enough to have SPS on the rocks.
Big problem with the Tek light is to place it that low you have got to use the splash shield. Because there is no cooling using the shield drops the output of the Tek even further. Funny thing is if you pull the shield on the Nova you get a slight increase in PAR (acrylic doesn't cut a lot of light) initially then it starts dropping. They obviously thought out the cooling on the units pretty well. Too bad they didn't throw some extra bucks into the reflector design.
 

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2598093
What PAR numbers did you get?
The lamps on the Nova pretty much suck, at least the blues do. The lamps are no way to judge the output of the fixture. You want to use the same lamps when doing the comparison.
What the Nova's lack in reflector they gain in active cooling. The Tek loses better than 20% because of the lack of any active cooling. I've hit one from the top with a fan and measured it. 152 vs 189 with a fan just blowing over the top of the fixture. Another guy was able to boost the output of his Tek by 25% blowing a fan in one end. As bozo as the Nova reflectors are they do help over a plain flat one.

I am trying to get the numbers from the lfs. he replied to my request but no pics or numbers...
I agree the nova is better than nothing and you can certainly grow in it but the tek outdoes it by far.
I think the tek was at 200 and the nova was way low like 100 or something lower. the ati and the tek were real close... So running a fan thru one end of my tek will make it 25% better ?
I have been toying with cuting two spots on the top and adding some snazy orbit fans or something with neons on it to look cool off of one of my pcs to improve the heating. I personally do not have a heart issue but why not add it to prolong the life of the fixture cuz heat is always a factor in lifespan.
 

srgvigil

Member

Originally Posted by Fats71 http:///forum/post/2597715
Here is a pic of my tek first day with bulbs.
2 purple 2 blue 4 white.
on the far left you can see my stock bar I just took off when I took the pic.
I will snap some shots with all bulbs on later..
The bulbs are just turned on for the first time so not broke in yet. I like the blue tint hence my colors I chose.

this is with all burning.

This is my corals after running on a stock perfecto bar for two plus months they have trippled in size with the stock light but the color was never shown and washed out. They are certainly looking tons better after just three days now.


Here is a link to more pics. I took at the same time.https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/319068/new-tanks-and-toys-diary
Although I know that the human eye is an innaccurate way to judge you said as soon as you saw the teks you said BAM! they are way better than the NOP
Judging from your pictures the light looks the exact same as the NOP
Although TEKS are nice im sticking with my NOP
 
Just got my TEK yesturday. It's a 4-bulb system (2 white, 2 blue) and it really lit my 55 up. The system is well designed, well built, and so far it works extremely well. It runs a lot cooler than my PCs did.

 

cahuama

Member
Aq. Rook, that looks nice.
That is what I'm looking for, I think I'm going with the Tek 4 bulb system. Is that a glass canopy on your 55?
Can you use it with the Tek lights or does it have to be with out a canopy?
Does anyone know?
Thanks everyone, I'm getting helpful info here.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2598121
I am trying to get the numbers from the lfs. he replied to my request but no pics or numbers...
I agree the nova is better than nothing and you can certainly grow in it but the tek outdoes it by far.
I think the tek was at 200 and the nova was way low like 100 or something lower. the ati and the tek were real close... So running a fan thru one end of my tek will make it 25% better ?
I have been toying with cuting two spots on the top and adding some snazy orbit fans or something with neons on it to look cool off of one of my pcs to improve the heating. I personally do not have a heart issue but why not add it to prolong the life of the fixture cuz heat is always a factor in lifespan.
Don't know the particulars of those measurments but my PAR readings were a lot higher than that. Again, make sure you are comparing the Nova numbers with the same lamps as the tek. As far as the Tek vs ATI the ATI had double the output. I actually had to research because I couldn't believe the ATI was that much better and thought it was overdriving the lamps. It wasn't
As far as fans what this guy did was mold the splash shield at one end so it dropped to make a lip. He then mounted a crossflow fan (squirrel cage type about 10" wide as I remember) at the end so the air was pushed in and down the lamps but I believe he dialed the speed in using his PAR meter. You want to be careful with fans, OVERCOOLING THE LAMP WILL HURT THE PERFORMANCE MORE THAN LETTING THEM RUN HOT!!! If I can come across a used 54 watt Tek light I am going to do a refurb (replace the reflector and ballasts) and then come up with a set cooling scheme using available parts, hopefully one of the Azo fan arrays the doctors sells clamps to the rear of the tank. Thought I had a fixture lined up but the deal fell through.
They have those LED fans that can read out temp, one of those would be sweet. If you are using the splash shield you will increase the life of the lamps and ballasts by cooling the thing. The Sunlight Supply rep had said if we could prove the fans would improve the performance they would add a fan. Will not only I proved it so did the other guy and they still didn't add fans. What the german fixtures and the Aquactinics do is cool the lamps and ballasts. Be hard on a Tek because of where the ballasts are mounted.
If you add the fans make sure they are over the area where the ballasts are as far as left to right placement. I don't remember exactly how the Tek reflector mounts but if there is a gap out by the endcaps that would be great. Just a slight amount of airflow near the caps will make the lamps run sweet. If you are running the splash shield I personally would trim the length down so you could center the shield leaving about a half inch gap at each end running fans or not. Just the natural convection effect of the hot air rising would pull cooler air into the fixture.
This was my 20% solution


The little Azo array would look much nicer. Looks like your fixture is too wide front to back to use one of those maybe. It would also have to be raised. I suppose you could mount it right on the fixture. I think I'd rather cut the holes and mount the fans inside the fixture.
 

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2598171
Don't know the particulars of those measurments but my PAR readings were a lot higher than that. Again, make sure you are comparing the Nova numbers with the same lamps as the tek. As far as the Tek vs ATI the ATI had double the output. I actually had to research because I couldn't believe the ATI was that much better and thought it was overdriving the lamps. It wasn't
As far as fans what this guy did was mold the splash shield at one end so it dropped to make a lip. He then mounted a crossflow fan (squirrel cage type about 10" wide as I remember) at the end so the air was pushed in and down the lamps but I believe he dialed the speed in using his PAR meter. You want to be careful with fans, OVERCOOLING THE LAMP WILL HURT THE PERFORMANCE MORE THAN LETTING THEM RUN HOT!!! If I can come across a used 54 watt Tek light I am going to do a refurb (replace the reflector and ballasts) and then come up with a set cooling scheme using available parts, hopefully one of the Azo fan arrays the doctors sells clamps to the rear of the tank. Thought I had a fixture lined up but the deal fell through.
They have those LED fans that can read out temp, one of those would be sweet. If you are using the splash shield you will increase the life of the lamps and ballasts by cooling the thing. The Sunlight Supply rep had said if we could prove the fans would improve the performance they would add a fan. Will not only I proved it so did the other guy and they still didn't add fans. What the german fixtures and the Aquactinics do is cool the lamps and ballasts. Be hard on a Tek because of where the ballasts are mounted.
If you add the fans make sure they are over the area where the ballasts are as far as left to right placement. I don't remember exactly how the Tek reflector mounts but if there is a gap out by the endcaps that would be great. Just a slight amount of airflow near the caps will make the lamps run sweet. If you are running the splash shield I personally would trim the length down so you could center the shield leaving about a half inch gap at each end running fans or not. Just the natural convection effect of the hot air rising would pull cooler air into the fixture.
This was my 20% solution


The little Azo array would look much nicer. Looks like your fixture is too wide front to back to use one of those maybe. It would also have to be raised. I suppose you could mount it right on the fixture. I think I'd rather cut the holes and mount the fans inside the fixture.
The fans with the temp on it are the ones i'm talking about. I do have a fan identical to the one shown and might be able to place it in the rear on the overflow not sure yet.
The lights when on push the splash guard down about ¼ of an inch on both sides when off they go back into place.
I might try it like shown above on the low setting and see how that works..
Right now i'm having a weird issue though with heat in the tank running between 80-82. I dropped the heater into my sump and lowered it but it seems to be staying the same temp I dunno if my heater is crap or what but the lights have been off for 4 hours it stayed the same temp all day so kind of weirding me out a bit on the temp but it is not due to the lights or it would have dropped by now... I might have done something when pulling it out and its a turn

[hr]
to set the temp and may not be actually working now. I might pull it out tomorrow and take the top off and see if I can't get it working right.
The par readings we did showed the ati and tek real close with giesmann bulbs the nova had the regular stock bulbs in it so yea big difference. I know the owner of the lfs ran it with giesmann bulbs and it was tons better but if your gong to do it might as well go with the tek off the bat and add bulbs when he can IMO. with 2 bulbs it would be fine till his next payday I would think. You are right about it being super wide it is the 8 bulb and it overhands the tank a little but it is setup high and I might take it as high as it will go tomorrow as well.
 

ibew41

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2598118
No, I did mesure PAR on the Nova Pro. 4 Blue Plus lamps, 1 Aquascience Special and 1 Aquascience DUO lamp which are slightly less potent than a Aquablue over a 22" tall tank. Light was sitting on tank frame. Water level about an inch and a half below. Sensor on sandbend about 17.5" below that. PAR was 224. According to Sanjay Joshi 150 is enough to have SPS on the rocks.
Big problem with the Tek light is to place it that low you have got to use the splash shield. Because there is no cooling using the shield drops the output of the Tek even further. Funny thing is if you pull the shield on the Nova you get a slight increase in PAR (acrylic doesn't cut a lot of light) initially then it starts dropping. They obviously thought out the cooling on the units pretty well. Too bad they didn't throw some extra bucks into the reflector design.
when sanjay did the test on the tec and nova they found that the splash shield does not effect par as everyone thought.Par loss only gets bad with salt build up on it,and on the tec as you said with out the cooling par goes down as the lamps heat up
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by IBEW41
http:///forum/post/2598329
when sanjay did the test on the tec and nova they found that the splash shield does not effect par as everyone thought.Par loss only gets bad with salt build up on it,and on the tec as you said with out the cooling par goes down as the lamps heat up
I did the shield on the Nova, ATI and Aquactinics, all 3 cut very little light. I was a little surprised by the ATI because the shield is kinda thick.
 

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by Surgical
http:///forum/post/2598128

Although I know that the human eye is an inaccurate way to judge you said as soon as you saw the teaks you said BAM! they are way better than the NOP
Judging from your pictures the light looks the exact same as the NOP
Although TEKS are nice i'm sticking with my NOP
Being there seeing it is much different than a pic. The lights were different visually and the tek on the par was double that of the NEP.
Post your numbers and Friday ill go get a meter and test mine and we will see which one does what. I like testing stuff. I am buying a tds meter on Friday as well to see how bad m tap water is and what the difference is between it and my culligan water.
 
Top