temp rising

ricky1066

Member
Ok I cannot afford a chiller right now and I notice each day My temp is going up it is up to 82 now.
I have the light is the sump on 24/7 for the chaeto but the top m tank light is only on a few hours a day and it is only a 4 foot 40 watt flurocent
what do you guys reccomend
 

miaheatlvr

Active Member
Originally Posted by Ricky1066
http:///forum/post/2459531
Ok I cannot afford a chiller right now and I notice each day My temp is going up it is up to 82 now.
I have the light is the sump on 24/7 for the chaeto but the top m tank light is only on a few hours a day and it is only a 4 foot 40 watt flurocent
what do you guys reccomend
A clip on fan will work wonders... get a used chiller for the future.. Why so warm in Brooklyn?
 

big

Active Member
If the sump light is higher wattage it could be reduces in time or wattage to lessen the heat in the sump water. The Chaeto is tough.
In the summer around here floating 16 ounce plastic soda bottles full of frozen water in the sump helps on the bad heat days. Just do not change the temp. too quicly.
 

ricky1066

Member
It is 65 today in Brooklyn I have theheater off and the light I wqs told to leave on 24/7 I think that is a contributing factor maybe I will shut oit off a few hours a day
 

jpc763

Active Member
Is your tank in a window? Your temp going up to 82 with the lights and house heater off does not make sense.
 

lexluethar

Active Member
It makes perfect sense, his lights are causing his temp to fluctuate. I had the same problem, before getting my lights my heater was on constantly and the temp was always at 78 degrees. once i got new lights my temp was 83 degrees when they were on and 78 when they were off. So you have to buy a chiller, or a fan to cool the water off. Keep the heater at the same setting, and my advise would be to keep the fan on at all times. Although you will deal with more water evaporation with this, you won't have those swings of "oh crap is noon and my temp is 82 degrees" you turn on the fan and it dips back down to 78. It needs to be constant, so keeping a fan on at all times will keep the water cooled at 78 during the day, and at night your heater will ensure the water stays at 78 and doesn't drop below.
Some people sync their fans with their lighting schedule - it just depends on your situation. I would place one fan on your sump at first (so that it isn't an eye-sore), then if that doesn't help either buy more fans, or place anotehr one on your DT.
hope this helps.
 

ameno

Active Member
Originally Posted by big
http:///forum/post/2459553
In the summer around here floating 16 ounce plastic soda bottles full of frozen water in the sump helps on the bad heat days. Just do not change the temp. too quicly.
Now that's a good idea
haven't thought about that.
A fan will probably help some, I've noticed since temp has been warming up here that my tank temp has been up a few degrees also, even with fans, have had to turn the ac on to help. But I agree without the lights and heater off it should not be that high, you might feel of the moters running in the tank and see if one of them may be putting out access heat.
 

ricky1066

Member
I have my heater in my main tank set @ 75 so it stays off In my main taink is two powerheads Koralia 3 thats it
Inmy sump is my pump and the 6500k light from home depot.
 

big

Active Member
One more thing to try. The Chaeto in the sump does not need 24/7 lighting. It will grow like aweed still with reduced lighting. Just give it good flow.
Try this. Put the sump light on a timer opposite of the day night cycle in the main tank. This will help not only lowering unwanted heat. but will help too with keeping a stable day-night PH.
 

ameno

Active Member
one other thing you might look at is see if the heater is really kicking off, put you hand to it and see if it's warm. I had a problem with heat when I first set the tank up and finally checked the heater and found it was staying on. when it was saying it was off.
 

lexluethar

Active Member
Originally Posted by ameno
http:///forum/post/2459758
one other thing you might look at is see if the heater is really kicking off, put you hand to it and see if it's warm. I had a problem with heat when I first set the tank up and finally checked the heater and found it was staying on. when it was saying it was off.
I'd also like to note that you can't really trust a heaters setting. My heater set at 70 degrees will keep my water temp at 78. Not sure if i just have had bad luck, but from what i've experiences its best to test the heater with a thermometer, and continue to adjust the heater until the water temp is where it should be.
 

big

Active Member
Originally Posted by LexLuethar
http:///forum/post/2459781
I'd also like to note that you can't really trust a heaters setting. My heater set at 70 degrees will keep my water temp at 78. Not sure if i just have had bad luck, but from what i've experiences its best to test the heater with a thermometer, and continue to adjust the heater until the water temp is where it should be.
Yep all mine are set at 71-72 and my tank runs 78-80
 

ricky1066

Member
Thanks again I have no flow in the sump just waht comes in and what goes out the water does not really move I have the outgoing water to the sump into the sock so it is silent I was told I did not need movement for the chaeto and I was also told it needed light 24/7
This is how I get confused every one has a diffferent suggestion.
I would love to shut the light off even at noght when i go to sleep my cats are so noisey of this bright light.
But flow I really have none of
 

big

Active Member
Originally Posted by Ricky1066
http:///forum/post/2459874
Thanks again I have no flow in the sump just waht comes in and what goes out the water does not really move I have the outgoing water to the sump into the sock so it is silent I was told I did not need movement for the chaeto and I was also told it needed light 24/7
This is how I get confused every one has a diffferent suggestion.
I would love to shut the light off even at noght when i go to sleep my cats are so noisey of this bright light.
But flow I really have none of

Well the truth about Chaeto is light is good, but 24/7 is not needed. The night time lighting on the sump, is the best to help when the lights are out in the Main tank and the PH drops. Lighting the sump at night helps to even the PH out some. Less PH drop at night because the light in the sump is on.
As to flow, yes a good flow is the best. Maybe add a small PH to help with movement in the sump. (once this temp issue is fixed.)
 

ameno

Active Member
cheato does better with a pretty good flow. you can point a ph at it to give it some flow or if noting else go in a few times a week and turn it and shake it up a bit will help, but putting some flow on it will make it happy.
 

ricky1066

Member
I forgot to mention I have glass tops of my main tank should I leave them on I am afraid of something jusmoing out so I leave them closed I see inthe pet stores thay have none
I plan on going out and gett ing a cleaner shrimp and I have seen them climb I am thinking that might be holding the heat in also?
 

ameno

Active Member
yes it could be, I would remove the glass, not just for heat but for gas exchange, you should have a power head moveing the water surface, this will also help keep the ph up. you could put in some egg crate on the top to keep things from falling in or out.
 
Top