The bar drops again
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veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2821027
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jFFJS7M30A
Now its down to 120,000.00
If elected it will be right back at $42,000 by January.
http:///forum/post/2821027
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jFFJS7M30A
Now its down to 120,000.00
If elected it will be right back at $42,000 by January.
yzracer931
Member
Do you realize that congress passes tax cuts not the president.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by yzracer931
http:///forum/post/2821031
Do you realize that congress passes tax cuts not the president.
Do you know what party controls congress?
http:///forum/post/2821031
Do you realize that congress passes tax cuts not the president.
Do you know what party controls congress?
yzracer931
Member
Yeah, do you think the bailout was a good option? Not trying to be a smart a$$ just curious.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by yzracer931
http:///forum/post/2821042
Yeah, do you think the bailout was a good option? Not trying to be a smart a$$ just curious.
Personally i do not.
http:///forum/post/2821042
Yeah, do you think the bailout was a good option? Not trying to be a smart a$$ just curious.
Personally i do not.
yzracer931
Member
I believe that it also depends on the results of the election. If the election is a blow out congress will be run by the president but if it is very close it will be run by congress itself.
groupergenius
Active Member
Heck, they're dropping it faster than gas prices...
Speaking of dropping gas prices, wasn't it these same a-clowns that wanted to impose windfall taxes on the oil companies ultimately raising fuel costs??
What a joke these people are.
Speaking of dropping gas prices, wasn't it these same a-clowns that wanted to impose windfall taxes on the oil companies ultimately raising fuel costs??
What a joke these people are.
oscardeuce
Active Member
Originally Posted by yzracer931
http:///forum/post/2821042
Yeah, do you think the bailout was a good option? Not trying to be a smart a$$ just curious.
No.
http:///forum/post/2821042
Yeah, do you think the bailout was a good option? Not trying to be a smart a$$ just curious.
No.
bionicarm
Active Member
So who exactly is Bill Richardson? Some Rush Limbaugh wannabe? A 12 second clip on YouTube validates Obama's policy. Hey, if it's on YouTube, it has to be right!!!
http://www.barackobama.com/taxes/
http://www.barackobama.com/taxes/
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2822093
So who exactly is Bill Richardson? Some Rush Limbaugh wannabe? A 12 second clip on YouTube validates Obama's policy. Hey, if it's on YouTube, it has to be right!!!
http://www.barackobama.com/taxes/
He is only the most prominent mexican descent governor in our country. He was also a presidential candidate in the primaries for your side of the aisle (guess you were not paying attention then), and served under Clinton in his Cabinet.............Rush Limbaugh? Hardly..................
Oh, and he has done far more in foreign diplomacy in the last 4 years than Obama has in his entire political career...........
http:///forum/post/2822093
So who exactly is Bill Richardson? Some Rush Limbaugh wannabe? A 12 second clip on YouTube validates Obama's policy. Hey, if it's on YouTube, it has to be right!!!
http://www.barackobama.com/taxes/
He is only the most prominent mexican descent governor in our country. He was also a presidential candidate in the primaries for your side of the aisle (guess you were not paying attention then), and served under Clinton in his Cabinet.............Rush Limbaugh? Hardly..................
Oh, and he has done far more in foreign diplomacy in the last 4 years than Obama has in his entire political career...........
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2822093
So who exactly is Bill Richardson?
Um...wow. Any sense of credibility you may have felt should have just fizzled.
You really should learn more about all our elected officials. I don't have a problem with people voting for something they believe in, but many seem to be following Obama just because. Bill was one of the Democratic candidates and had a chance of being the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. I would have voted for him over senor McCain without a second thought.
http:///forum/post/2822093
So who exactly is Bill Richardson?
Um...wow. Any sense of credibility you may have felt should have just fizzled.
You really should learn more about all our elected officials. I don't have a problem with people voting for something they believe in, but many seem to be following Obama just because. Bill was one of the Democratic candidates and had a chance of being the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. I would have voted for him over senor McCain without a second thought.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2822360
Um...wow. Any sense of credibility you may have felt should have just fizzled.
You really should learn more about all our elected officials. I don't have a problem with people voting for something they believe in, but many seem to be following Obama just because. Bill was one of the Democratic candidates and had a chance of being the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. I would have voted for him over senor McCain without a second thought.
Actually I may have as well, or would have atleast thought about it harder. Much of what he was campaigning on did not match how he operated the state of New Mexico. Of course the last year here in New Mexico under him has mewondering a bit more, but he understand economics, the border, has much foreign policy experience, and even is a democrat. I voted for him twice....but this is a democrat that understands tax policy and operating on a budget...
Bionicarm, you have just lost all political credibility. I can name ALL the democrat and republican candidates during the primary, and you can't name the guy that stuck in it for a long time and was coming in behind edwards?
http:///forum/post/2822360
Um...wow. Any sense of credibility you may have felt should have just fizzled.
You really should learn more about all our elected officials. I don't have a problem with people voting for something they believe in, but many seem to be following Obama just because. Bill was one of the Democratic candidates and had a chance of being the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. I would have voted for him over senor McCain without a second thought.
Actually I may have as well, or would have atleast thought about it harder. Much of what he was campaigning on did not match how he operated the state of New Mexico. Of course the last year here in New Mexico under him has mewondering a bit more, but he understand economics, the border, has much foreign policy experience, and even is a democrat. I voted for him twice....but this is a democrat that understands tax policy and operating on a budget...
Bionicarm, you have just lost all political credibility. I can name ALL the democrat and republican candidates during the primary, and you can't name the guy that stuck in it for a long time and was coming in behind edwards?
socal57che
Active Member
I trust him. I do not trust McCain. I agree with him on several issues according to this...
http://www.ontheissues.org/bill_richardson.htm
This stood out...he voted against the Brady Bill...
"1993: Opposed Brady Bill in Congress. (Nov 2007)
No guns for mentally ill or those with criminal background. (Jul 2007)
Attack poverty at the core of gun violence. (Jul 2007)
Assault weapons ban did not work; despite his vote for ban. (May 2007)
Endorsed by NRA for governor; would accept endorsement again. (May 2007)
The 2nd Amendment is precious. (Apr 2007)
Endorsed by NRA; has his own concealed carry permit. (Oct 2006)
We should ally with pro-gun recreationists in West. (Apr 2005)"
http://www.ontheissues.org/bill_richardson.htm
This stood out...he voted against the Brady Bill...
"1993: Opposed Brady Bill in Congress. (Nov 2007)
No guns for mentally ill or those with criminal background. (Jul 2007)
Attack poverty at the core of gun violence. (Jul 2007)
Assault weapons ban did not work; despite his vote for ban. (May 2007)
Endorsed by NRA for governor; would accept endorsement again. (May 2007)
The 2nd Amendment is precious. (Apr 2007)
Endorsed by NRA; has his own concealed carry permit. (Oct 2006)
We should ally with pro-gun recreationists in West. (Apr 2005)"
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2822387
Actually I may have as well, or would have atleast thought about it harder. Much of what he was campaigning on did not match how he operated the state of New Mexico. Of course the last year here in New Mexico under him has mewondering a bit more, but he understand economics, the border, has much foreign policy experience, and even is a democrat. I voted for him twice....but this is a democrat that understands tax policy and operating on a budget...
Bionicarm, you have just lost all political credibility. I can name ALL the democrat and republican candidates during the primary, and you can't name the guy that stuck in it for a long time and was coming in behind edwards?
Glad you don't have a life. Apparently the guy had little impact if I don't remember him. You know more about him because he's from your home state. In the first rounds of the party nominations, you have so many candidates coming out of the woodwork, it's not worth listening to all of them. Sounds like he was a victim of 'lack of campaign funds'. Probably flooded the West Coast states, but he didn't have that much media coverage here. That's what is sad about today's presidential election. It's not based on who has the best policies, but who has the most campaign funds and media coverage. Richardson may be a good candidate. I honestly don't recall the guy, or what he stood for. That was over a year ago. After he was pushed out, he was old news. The only thing I remembered about Edwards was his $400 hair cuts. Coming in fourth these days is irrelevent. Like I said, glad you keep up with all the useless trivia. What place what candidate ended up in has no meaning now. It's who out of the last two that will get the final vote is all that matters now.
http:///forum/post/2822387
Actually I may have as well, or would have atleast thought about it harder. Much of what he was campaigning on did not match how he operated the state of New Mexico. Of course the last year here in New Mexico under him has mewondering a bit more, but he understand economics, the border, has much foreign policy experience, and even is a democrat. I voted for him twice....but this is a democrat that understands tax policy and operating on a budget...
Bionicarm, you have just lost all political credibility. I can name ALL the democrat and republican candidates during the primary, and you can't name the guy that stuck in it for a long time and was coming in behind edwards?
Glad you don't have a life. Apparently the guy had little impact if I don't remember him. You know more about him because he's from your home state. In the first rounds of the party nominations, you have so many candidates coming out of the woodwork, it's not worth listening to all of them. Sounds like he was a victim of 'lack of campaign funds'. Probably flooded the West Coast states, but he didn't have that much media coverage here. That's what is sad about today's presidential election. It's not based on who has the best policies, but who has the most campaign funds and media coverage. Richardson may be a good candidate. I honestly don't recall the guy, or what he stood for. That was over a year ago. After he was pushed out, he was old news. The only thing I remembered about Edwards was his $400 hair cuts. Coming in fourth these days is irrelevent. Like I said, glad you keep up with all the useless trivia. What place what candidate ended up in has no meaning now. It's who out of the last two that will get the final vote is all that matters now.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2822412
I trust him. I do not trust McCain. I agree with him on several issues according to this...
http://www.ontheissues.org/bill_richardson.htm
This stood out...he voted against the Brady Bill...
"1993: Opposed Brady Bill in Congress. (Nov 2007)
No guns for mentally ill or those with criminal background. (Jul 2007)
Attack poverty at the core of gun violence. (Jul 2007)
Assault weapons ban did not work; despite his vote for ban. (May 2007)
Endorsed by NRA for governor; would accept endorsement again. (May 2007)
The 2nd Amendment is precious. (Apr 2007)
Endorsed by NRA; has his own concealed carry permit. (Oct 2006)
We should ally with pro-gun recreationists in West. (Apr 2005)"
Now that's an outstanding resume. Don't list any of his policies on the economy, heath care, or education. But if he's for guns, that's good enough for me!
http:///forum/post/2822412
I trust him. I do not trust McCain. I agree with him on several issues according to this...
http://www.ontheissues.org/bill_richardson.htm
This stood out...he voted against the Brady Bill...
"1993: Opposed Brady Bill in Congress. (Nov 2007)
No guns for mentally ill or those with criminal background. (Jul 2007)
Attack poverty at the core of gun violence. (Jul 2007)
Assault weapons ban did not work; despite his vote for ban. (May 2007)
Endorsed by NRA for governor; would accept endorsement again. (May 2007)
The 2nd Amendment is precious. (Apr 2007)
Endorsed by NRA; has his own concealed carry permit. (Oct 2006)
We should ally with pro-gun recreationists in West. (Apr 2005)"
Now that's an outstanding resume. Don't list any of his policies on the economy, heath care, or education. But if he's for guns, that's good enough for me!
bionicarm
Active Member
At least the republican VP candidate can take being 'punked' in stride:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27489929
I sure hope she really knew what was going on the whole time. If not, look out world...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27489929
I sure hope she really knew what was going on the whole time. If not, look out world...
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2822572
Glad you don't have a life. Apparently the guy had little impact if I don't remember him. You know more about him because he's from your home state. In the first rounds of the party nominations, you have so many candidates coming out of the woodwork, it's not worth listening to all of them. Sounds like he was a victim of 'lack of campaign funds'. Probably flooded the West Coast states, but he didn't have that much media coverage here. That's what is sad about today's presidential election. It's not based on who has the best policies, but who has the most campaign funds and media coverage. Richardson may be a good candidate. I honestly don't recall the guy, or what he stood for. That was over a year ago. After he was pushed out, he was old news. The only thing I remembered about Edwards was his $400 hair cuts. Coming in fourth these days is irrelevent. Like I said, glad you keep up with all the useless trivia. What place what candidate ended up in has no meaning now. It's who out of the last two that will get the final vote is all that matters now.
Glad you have a willingness to follow possible future players. Me no life? You can call it no life if you want (even though I manage to find time to go to just about every concert that comes to town). But I must not get out as often as you which is why I know he didn't drop out of the race till this year (not over a year ago) and I must be a loser since I am willing to follow the careers of many politicians. Glad you are so much better than I. The future of our country is in great shape as long as everyone pays as much attention as you do.
http:///forum/post/2822572
Glad you don't have a life. Apparently the guy had little impact if I don't remember him. You know more about him because he's from your home state. In the first rounds of the party nominations, you have so many candidates coming out of the woodwork, it's not worth listening to all of them. Sounds like he was a victim of 'lack of campaign funds'. Probably flooded the West Coast states, but he didn't have that much media coverage here. That's what is sad about today's presidential election. It's not based on who has the best policies, but who has the most campaign funds and media coverage. Richardson may be a good candidate. I honestly don't recall the guy, or what he stood for. That was over a year ago. After he was pushed out, he was old news. The only thing I remembered about Edwards was his $400 hair cuts. Coming in fourth these days is irrelevent. Like I said, glad you keep up with all the useless trivia. What place what candidate ended up in has no meaning now. It's who out of the last two that will get the final vote is all that matters now.
Glad you have a willingness to follow possible future players. Me no life? You can call it no life if you want (even though I manage to find time to go to just about every concert that comes to town). But I must not get out as often as you which is why I know he didn't drop out of the race till this year (not over a year ago) and I must be a loser since I am willing to follow the careers of many politicians. Glad you are so much better than I. The future of our country is in great shape as long as everyone pays as much attention as you do.
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by yzracer931
http:///forum/post/2821031
Do you realize that congress passes tax cuts not the president.
I didn't know that. I thought Congress creates the bill and the President Passes or Vetos it.
http:///forum/post/2821031
Do you realize that congress passes tax cuts not the president.
I didn't know that. I thought Congress creates the bill and the President Passes or Vetos it.
zman1
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2821027
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jFFJS7M30A
Now its down to 120,000.00
You have to actually listen to all the words in your link. Not just the ones you want to hear. He said tax cut! This is where you are trying to find inconsistency where there is none.. Bill didn't say anything different than Obama.
Obama's claim
Middle class families will see their taxes cut – and NO family making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase.
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes...ison_FINAL.pdf