There is no such thing as good versus evil
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jmick
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
i thuoght i did
You did, so how can people who have not been given ministry about Jesus and god go to hell? How can people who are ignorant bear the wrath of hell for something they know nothing of? Do you not see something sinister in this? Do you not see that this a great tool/anvil to smash ignorant folk into submission?
i thuoght i did
You did, so how can people who have not been given ministry about Jesus and god go to hell? How can people who are ignorant bear the wrath of hell for something they know nothing of? Do you not see something sinister in this? Do you not see that this a great tool/anvil to smash ignorant folk into submission?
agent-x
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Originally Posted by Jmick
You did, so how can people who have not been given ministry about Jesus and god go to hell? How can people who are ignorant bear the wrath of hell for something they know nothing of? Do you not see something sinister in this? Do you not see that this a great tool/anvil to smash ignorant folk into submission?
Seriously you took what he said as an answer? How can all these people burn for that? Really?
You did, so how can people who have not been given ministry about Jesus and god go to hell? How can people who are ignorant bear the wrath of hell for something they know nothing of? Do you not see something sinister in this? Do you not see that this a great tool/anvil to smash ignorant folk into submission?
Seriously you took what he said as an answer? How can all these people burn for that? Really?
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by Jmick
So there was no one on earth before Jesus Christ? Will the babies go to Purgatory...the unbaptized ones?
there were no people before God , God used people to witness before jesus came, the babies will go right to heaven , and i dont believe in purgatory, or the fact that you will go to heaven if your baptized . catholics believe you need to baptize a child to forgive them of the original sin but jesus already did this when he died on the cross
So there was no one on earth before Jesus Christ? Will the babies go to Purgatory...the unbaptized ones?
there were no people before God , God used people to witness before jesus came, the babies will go right to heaven , and i dont believe in purgatory, or the fact that you will go to heaven if your baptized . catholics believe you need to baptize a child to forgive them of the original sin but jesus already did this when he died on the cross
agent-x
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
there were no people before God , God used people to witness before jesus came, the babies will go right to heaven , and i dont believe in purgatory, or the fact that you will go to heaven if your baptized . catholics believe you need to baptize a child to forgive them of the original sin but jesus already did this when he died on the cross
Then why do Baptists still use this ritual?
there were no people before God , God used people to witness before jesus came, the babies will go right to heaven , and i dont believe in purgatory, or the fact that you will go to heaven if your baptized . catholics believe you need to baptize a child to forgive them of the original sin but jesus already did this when he died on the cross
Then why do Baptists still use this ritual?
jmick
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So what if a man lives a very good life, he gives to the needy, loves his family and raises his children in a loving home, is kind to others and is a hell of a guy and he doesn't believe in god or jesus, will he go to hell? This guy probably leads a better life then 95% of Christians.
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by Jmick
You did, so how can people who have not been given ministry about Jesus and god go to hell? How can people who are ignorant bear the wrath of hell for something they know nothing of? Do you not see something sinister in this? Do you not see that this a great tool/anvil to smash ignorant folk into submission?
i didnt say that people that never heard about God whyll they were alive will go to hell . infact jesus will not come back till every person that is going to be saved will do so. i think thats pretty fair . but people that do here about God and deny him will go to hell
You did, so how can people who have not been given ministry about Jesus and god go to hell? How can people who are ignorant bear the wrath of hell for something they know nothing of? Do you not see something sinister in this? Do you not see that this a great tool/anvil to smash ignorant folk into submission?
i didnt say that people that never heard about God whyll they were alive will go to hell . infact jesus will not come back till every person that is going to be saved will do so. i think thats pretty fair . but people that do here about God and deny him will go to hell
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by AGENT-X
Then why do Baptists still use this ritual?
tradition, and testimony
Then why do Baptists still use this ritual?
tradition, and testimony
agent-x
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Originally Posted by Jmick
So what if a man lives a very good life, he gives to the needy, loves his family and raises his children in a loving home, is kind to others and is a hell of a guy and he doesn't believe in god or jesus, will he go to hell? This guy probably leads a better life then 95% of Christians.
But of course he will. with gasoline underpants on.
So what if a man lives a very good life, he gives to the needy, loves his family and raises his children in a loving home, is kind to others and is a hell of a guy and he doesn't believe in god or jesus, will he go to hell? This guy probably leads a better life then 95% of Christians.
But of course he will. with gasoline underpants on.
agent-x
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
i didnt say that people that never heard about God whyll they were alive will go to hell . infact jesus will not come back till every person that is going to be saved will do so. i think thats pretty fair . but people that do here about God and deny him will go to hell
So considering that everyday a new child will reach the age where they will have to choose what they believe it's safe to say he will never return?
i didnt say that people that never heard about God whyll they were alive will go to hell . infact jesus will not come back till every person that is going to be saved will do so. i think thats pretty fair . but people that do here about God and deny him will go to hell
So considering that everyday a new child will reach the age where they will have to choose what they believe it's safe to say he will never return?
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by Jmick
So what if a man lives a very good life, he gives to the needy, loves his family and raises his children in a loving home, is kind to others and is a hell of a guy and he doesn't believe in god or jesus, will he go to hell? This guy probably leads a better life then 95% of Christians.
unfortunatly . no man can go to heaven on good works alone you need to admit that you are a sinner and believe that jesus died on the cross for are sins and invite the holy spirit into your heart so that you can be born again
So what if a man lives a very good life, he gives to the needy, loves his family and raises his children in a loving home, is kind to others and is a hell of a guy and he doesn't believe in god or jesus, will he go to hell? This guy probably leads a better life then 95% of Christians.
unfortunatly . no man can go to heaven on good works alone you need to admit that you are a sinner and believe that jesus died on the cross for are sins and invite the holy spirit into your heart so that you can be born again
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by AGENT-X
So considering that everyday a new child will reach the age where they will have to choose what they believe it's safe to say he will never return?
i9 have no clue how he is going to work that or when hes comeing back, i just know that someday he will
So considering that everyday a new child will reach the age where they will have to choose what they believe it's safe to say he will never return?
i9 have no clue how he is going to work that or when hes comeing back, i just know that someday he will
jmick
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
i didnt say that people that never heard about God whyll they were alive will go to hell . infact jesus will not come back till every person that is going to be saved will do so. i think thats pretty fair . but people that do here about God and deny him will go to hell
So forget about free will, was that nothing more then entrapment? Give us the choice to question and as soon as we do we are going to hell? So who you are as a person has no bearing, it's all about believing even if you are a scumbag who kills, rapes and robs?
i didnt say that people that never heard about God whyll they were alive will go to hell . infact jesus will not come back till every person that is going to be saved will do so. i think thats pretty fair . but people that do here about God and deny him will go to hell
So forget about free will, was that nothing more then entrapment? Give us the choice to question and as soon as we do we are going to hell? So who you are as a person has no bearing, it's all about believing even if you are a scumbag who kills, rapes and robs?
agent-x
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
unfortunatly . no man can go to heaven on good works alone you need to admit that you are a sinner and believe that jesus died on the cross for are sins and invite the holy spirit into your heart so that you can be born again
Ok seriously, this is like the 5th time I've seen this it's OUR not ARE. If I was God I would pick a different defender of my name.
unfortunatly . no man can go to heaven on good works alone you need to admit that you are a sinner and believe that jesus died on the cross for are sins and invite the holy spirit into your heart so that you can be born again
Ok seriously, this is like the 5th time I've seen this it's OUR not ARE. If I was God I would pick a different defender of my name.
jmick
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
unfortunatly . no man can go to heaven on good works alone you need to admit that you are a sinner and believe that jesus died on the cross for are sins and invite the holy spirit into your heart so that you can be born again
When did I sin? Or are you talking about the sins that Adam and Eve commited that are still being held against us?
unfortunatly . no man can go to heaven on good works alone you need to admit that you are a sinner and believe that jesus died on the cross for are sins and invite the holy spirit into your heart so that you can be born again
When did I sin? Or are you talking about the sins that Adam and Eve commited that are still being held against us?
agent-x
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Originally Posted by Jmick
So forget about free will, was that nothing more then entrapment? Give us the choice to question and as soon as we do we are going to hell? So who you are as a person has no bearing, it's all about believing even if you are a scumbag who kills, rapes and robs?
works for preists
So forget about free will, was that nothing more then entrapment? Give us the choice to question and as soon as we do we are going to hell? So who you are as a person has no bearing, it's all about believing even if you are a scumbag who kills, rapes and robs?
works for preists
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by Jmick
When did I sin? Or are you talking about the sins that Adam and Eve commited that are still being held against us?
we all sin are you saying you are a saint
When did I sin? Or are you talking about the sins that Adam and Eve commited that are still being held against us?
we all sin are you saying you are a saint
agent-x
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Originally Posted by Jmick
So forget about free will, was that nothing more then entrapment? Give us the choice to question and as soon as we do we are going to hell? So who you are as a person has no bearing, it's all about believing even if you are a scumbag who kills, rapes and robs?
I don't know about you, but I'm just going to take my chances on being a good person.
So forget about free will, was that nothing more then entrapment? Give us the choice to question and as soon as we do we are going to hell? So who you are as a person has no bearing, it's all about believing even if you are a scumbag who kills, rapes and robs?
I don't know about you, but I'm just going to take my chances on being a good person.