Thinking of changing to Aggressive
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srfisher17
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Originally Posted by bruner54
http:///forum/post/2634767
what i would do is a niger trigger, a snowflake eel, and a porcupine puffer, and maybe one other fish. thas just an idea
I don't know eels, but this sounds like a good group; but the porky will outgrow a 75. They can reach 18". A spiny box puffer is similar,smaller, but more difficult. I really like striped dogface puffers, inexpensive, don't get too big, and very personable. Avoid the temptation to add a lionfish to this mix.
http:///forum/post/2634767
what i would do is a niger trigger, a snowflake eel, and a porcupine puffer, and maybe one other fish. thas just an idea
I don't know eels, but this sounds like a good group; but the porky will outgrow a 75. They can reach 18". A spiny box puffer is similar,smaller, but more difficult. I really like striped dogface puffers, inexpensive, don't get too big, and very personable. Avoid the temptation to add a lionfish to this mix.
bruner54
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Originally Posted by WhoDini6
http:///forum/post/2634781
Just a question about the reasoning behind avoiding a Lionfish with this mix.
the trigger will pick on it cause the lionfish is a much slower moving fish
http:///forum/post/2634781
Just a question about the reasoning behind avoiding a Lionfish with this mix.
the trigger will pick on it cause the lionfish is a much slower moving fish
prime311
Active Member
If it were me, I wouldn't start with a 75 and upgrade later. I'd upgrade now and use the 75 for a sump. You'll save yourself a lot of headache down the road and avoid the temptation of keeping fish in a tank too small for it longer then you should. I love predators, but a lot of the coolest predators are big and need a lot of space. Some people find smaller predator tanks rewarding, but 125 is the smallest to go with IMO.
srfisher17
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Originally Posted by bruner54
http:///forum/post/2634785
the trigger will pick on it cause the lionfish is a much slower moving fish
So will most puffers. This is constantly discussed on this forum. Lions are really predators, not aggressive, in the trigger-sense. They seldom will bother anything they can't swallow and their flowing fins are targets for nippy fish; like puffers and triggers. They are really defenseless against attacks. Of course, lots of folks have kept them together; but, IMO, that is an exception. Almost always, even after a long period; the niger will turn into a true trigger...they don't stay the cute little fish at the lfs. I really like them, however; I just won't keep them with lions. IMO, a big, female GS maroon clown would be a good addition.
http:///forum/post/2634785
the trigger will pick on it cause the lionfish is a much slower moving fish
el guapo
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Originally Posted by WhoDini6
http:///forum/post/2634763
Well in that case i have a 75 gallon right now so i guess the easier question would be what can i add to this tank.
Right now I have a 75 FOWLR. I have a fair sized humu humu about 5-6" , And a large black damsel about 4". There is lots of color and movement in there now . I have been debating a harliquen tusk and might be adding one soon . I do also plan on an upgrade when we move in november .
http:///forum/post/2634763
Well in that case i have a 75 gallon right now so i guess the easier question would be what can i add to this tank.
Right now I have a 75 FOWLR. I have a fair sized humu humu about 5-6" , And a large black damsel about 4". There is lots of color and movement in there now . I have been debating a harliquen tusk and might be adding one soon . I do also plan on an upgrade when we move in november .
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2635013
Right now I have a 75 FOWLR. I have a fair sized humu humu about 5-6" , And a large black damsel about 4". There is lots of color and movement in there now . I have been debating a harliquen tusk and might be adding one soon . I do also plan on an upgrade when we move in november .
Good plan! IMO, spend the extra $ and get an Australian variety; much prettier and hardier, IMO. The tusk pic on SWF.C is an Aussie (I'm 99.9%sure); but they sell the IO variety. I wish they'd change it.
http:///forum/post/2635013
Right now I have a 75 FOWLR. I have a fair sized humu humu about 5-6" , And a large black damsel about 4". There is lots of color and movement in there now . I have been debating a harliquen tusk and might be adding one soon . I do also plan on an upgrade when we move in november .
Good plan! IMO, spend the extra $ and get an Australian variety; much prettier and hardier, IMO. The tusk pic on SWF.C is an Aussie (I'm 99.9%sure); but they sell the IO variety. I wish they'd change it.
bioneck47
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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2635148
Good plan! IMO, spend the extra $ and get an Australian variety; much prettier and hardier, IMO. The tusk pic on SWF.C is an Aussie (I'm 99.9%sure); but they sell the IO variety. I wish they'd change it.
yeah but it really is a big difference in price (like 70 to 90 dollars) depending on where you get it. The cheapest I've found them online is @ $150. I have an indo pacific and they are still very colorful. Of course not as much as the aussie's but still a very pretty fish. So if you can't afford an australian then I'd still def. get the IO.
http:///forum/post/2635148
Good plan! IMO, spend the extra $ and get an Australian variety; much prettier and hardier, IMO. The tusk pic on SWF.C is an Aussie (I'm 99.9%sure); but they sell the IO variety. I wish they'd change it.
yeah but it really is a big difference in price (like 70 to 90 dollars) depending on where you get it. The cheapest I've found them online is @ $150. I have an indo pacific and they are still very colorful. Of course not as much as the aussie's but still a very pretty fish. So if you can't afford an australian then I'd still def. get the IO.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by bioneck47
http:///forum/post/2635584
yeah but it really is a big difference in price (like 70 to 90 dollars) depending on where you get it. The cheapest I've found them online is @ $150. I have an indo pacific and they are still very colorful. Of course not as much as the aussie's but still a very pretty fish. So if you can't afford an australian then I'd still def. get the IO.
You're right, of course! An IO harlequin is a great fish. IME, Australian fish are just handled better than IO fish; but with more responsible dealers on the scene, that may be old-fashioned thinking. BTW; a major online dealer usually has Aussie tusks on sale for about $89 a couple times every season (summer). They're $120 now; but, plus shipping.
http:///forum/post/2635584
yeah but it really is a big difference in price (like 70 to 90 dollars) depending on where you get it. The cheapest I've found them online is @ $150. I have an indo pacific and they are still very colorful. Of course not as much as the aussie's but still a very pretty fish. So if you can't afford an australian then I'd still def. get the IO.
You're right, of course! An IO harlequin is a great fish. IME, Australian fish are just handled better than IO fish; but with more responsible dealers on the scene, that may be old-fashioned thinking. BTW; a major online dealer usually has Aussie tusks on sale for about $89 a couple times every season (summer). They're $120 now; but, plus shipping.
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rcreations
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You can also do a Niger, Foxface and some type of Wrasse whichever one you like. This combination has worked great for me and they're all beautiful outgoing fish.
el guapo
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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2635148
Good plan! IMO, spend the extra $ and get an Australian variety; much prettier and hardier, IMO. The tusk pic on SWF.C is an Aussie (I'm 99.9%sure); but they sell the IO variety. I wish they'd change it.
Oh with out a doubt I will spend the extra money .
I just worry that two big fish with bold attitudes in a 75 will soon be a death match
http:///forum/post/2635148
Good plan! IMO, spend the extra $ and get an Australian variety; much prettier and hardier, IMO. The tusk pic on SWF.C is an Aussie (I'm 99.9%sure); but they sell the IO variety. I wish they'd change it.
Oh with out a doubt I will spend the extra money .
aquaknight
Active Member
My parents old tank was a 90 gal. Had a 3" Humu and 4" Lunare. They tried to add a 2.5" tusk and the humu didn't want any part of it, attacking the Tusk pretty good. Had to relocate him to their reef tank. I would be extra careful and definitely consider a 'soft' addition. Block off half the tank with egg crate so the old fish can see and smell the new guy but can't get to him.
el guapo
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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2636282
My parents old tank was a 90 gal. Had a 3" Humu and 4" Lunare. They tried to add a 2.5" tusk and the humu didn't want any part of it, attacking the Tusk pretty good. Had to relocate him to their reef tank. I would be extra careful and definitely consider a 'soft' addition. Block off half the tank with egg crate so the old fish can see and smell the new guy but can't get to him.
Yeah I am more than likely just going to wait and add it when I move . That way neither fish has a chance to have staked out turf . The upgrade is going to be at least a 125 unless I can get a good deal on a used tank localy .
http:///forum/post/2636282
My parents old tank was a 90 gal. Had a 3" Humu and 4" Lunare. They tried to add a 2.5" tusk and the humu didn't want any part of it, attacking the Tusk pretty good. Had to relocate him to their reef tank. I would be extra careful and definitely consider a 'soft' addition. Block off half the tank with egg crate so the old fish can see and smell the new guy but can't get to him.
Yeah I am more than likely just going to wait and add it when I move . That way neither fish has a chance to have staked out turf . The upgrade is going to be at least a 125 unless I can get a good deal on a used tank localy .