This PROVES cats are EVIL DIABOLICAL DEVIL CREATURES

gypsana

gypsana

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My cats are on a high protein diet and all are very healthy. Being a diabetic and knowing the disease it is hard for me to believe they could determine a diabetic diagnosis with feeding habits. Diabetes is a very complex disease. I can understand the quality of food being an issue as it is with humans but not as much the eating frequency. I can not feed my cats wet food. One vomits, one gets diarrhea, two will not touch it and the other is fine with or with out and this is high quality food not the cheap stuff. If you have a link to that study I would love to read it. Was there more than one study done on this theory?
 
al mc

al mc

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Originally Posted by gypsana
http:///forum/post/3085716
My cats are on a high protein diet and all are very healthy. Being a diabetic and knowing the disease it is hard for me to believe they could determine a diabetic diagnosis with feeding habits. Diabetes is a very complex disease. I can understand the quality of food being an issue as it is with humans but not as much the eating frequency. I can not feed my cats wet food. One vomits, one gets diarrhea, two will not touch it and the other is fine with or with out and this is high quality food not the cheap stuff. If you have a link to that study I would love to read it. Was there more than one study done on this theory?
It is controversial but there have been a couple studies done. The question came up as the result of seeing an increase in diabetic cats over the last 10+ years. Why? Genetics? More over weight cats? feeding habits?
As you know, diabetes, like many conditions, has no one cause. But it does appear one factor in an increase risk of developing diabetes is the manner that we humans feed our cats versus how they eat in the wild. In the wild, they would usually make a 'kill'...eat, then perhaps not have another meal for a day. In our environment we set out food an let them graze all day, if they choose. The release of insulin and the body's response to the way it is released in these different states has been the cause of an increase in diabetes in cats.
Your comment about high protein diet is a good one. We used to advocate high fiber diets for diabetic cats. The consensus is shifting now to higher protein diets in vet medicine as well.
Another condition that is becoming more common in cats that may be food related....HYPERthyroidism.....a contributing cause is feeding food from 'pop top' cans. Seems the process used to make the pop top 'popable' may be one culprit.
 
miaheatlvr

miaheatlvr

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My cat only likes to,, lay around, eat, sleep, crap and piss, give me the occasional meow and purr.. and thats about it, not to manipulative or diabolical at all.... hahahhahahhha
 
al mc

al mc

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Edit: Cats are also protein, not carbohydrate eaters. Many dry food diets for cats have lots of carbs. Protein 'fills them up' quicker than carbs. So they tend to eat more of the dry foods that are generally higher in carbs that canned foods. So, they gain weight. Weight gain is a contributes to a higher chance of developing diabetes.
 
flower

flower

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All critters with a brain learn how to communicate with us for basic needs...I think it is great.
 
gypsana

gypsana

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Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3085729
Edit: Cats are also protein, not carbohydrate eaters. Many dry food diets for cats have lots of carbs. Protein 'fills them up' quicker than carbs. So they tend to eat more of the dry foods that are generally higher in carbs that canned foods. So, they gain weight. Weight gain is a contributes to a higher chance of developing diabetes.
Humans eat way too many carbs as well. BTW thanks for the info.
 
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dragonzim

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Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3085625
OK..boring vet stuff: One reason there is an increase in diabetes in cats over the last 10+ years is the way we feed them. Domestic cats, like their wild cousins, are set up to eat one large meal every 1-2 days, release insulin after the big meal, then be done. Our domestic cats now 'graze' all day long and have bursts of insulin many times in a day. This type of insulin release and feeding behavior sets them up for an increase risk of diabetes.
Al - Does the same feedingeating guidline hold true for dogs as well? We normally feed my dog one meal a day.
 
al mc

al mc

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3086018
Al - Does the same feedingeating guidline hold true for dogs as well? We normally feed my dog one meal a day.
No corelation with feeding habits or type of food and dogs. Just older, females that are overweight are more likely to develop diabetes.
 
uneverno

uneverno

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Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3085729
Edit: Cats are also protein, not carbohydrate eaters. Many dry food diets for cats have lots of carbs. Protein 'fills them up' quicker than carbs. So they tend to eat more of the dry foods that are generally higher in carbs that canned foods. So, they gain weight. Weight gain is a contributes to a higher chance of developing diabetes.
Just like in humans, yes, weight gain - especially sudden and unexpected weight gain - is a significant indicating factor in diabetes.
Protein needs to be carefully defined however, in that most of the grains (i.e. what's considered to be carbs) contained in quality cat foods are high in vegetable, but not animal protein. Of course, they also contain carbohydrates, but feline's natural diet consists of vegetarian animals, whose carcasses, by extension, contain a fair amount of carbs.
The larger problem I've encountered w/ kitties is not diabetes, but kidney malfunction, largely as a result of prepared cat food's high ash content, which occurs in both dry and wet foods - in fact - it's higher in canned food than dry for the most part.
Disclaimer:
These are entirely my own theories based on years of having been a slave to cats. I could well be wrong. The cats, OTOH, prolly aren't.
 
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