Thomas712 help please

zibnata

zibnata

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I set up 20 gallon QT about 10 days ago.Treated tank with maracyn-2 for 5 days for hippo with a cloudy eye.Hippo looks great now.Started hypo a few days ago for ich.I have been doing small water changes every couple of days.I noticed red streaks on yellow tang. I just checked ammonia and it is at 1.0. I just did a 5 gallon water change with saltwater I mixed up last week.I am trying to feed alot to keep them healthy but could that be cause of ammonia ? there is a hippo,yellow tang,blackcap basslet,blue devil damsil and royal gramma. What should I do about the yellow tang,maracyn-2 again ? Should I use diluted display tank water for water changes ? Thanks
 
wablondie98664

wablondie98664

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the only thing i can think of is you just might have too many fish in the qt. try frequent water changes to keep the tank from going in to a cycle.
 
zibnata

zibnata

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Thanks for reply.I did one last night and one tonight using main tank water . I am afraid the tang has ammonia poisoning.I saw this on a website..http://www.fish-disease.com/
Ammonia Poisoning
Symptoms:
The fish will hang just under the surface with labored breathing. Its gills will appear to be lilac in color. Red streaking may be seen throughout the body and fins. Fishes with ammonia poisoning will become lethargic and eventually die, maintaining their full coloring. The ammonia will damage their skin, gills, nerves and internal organs. The red streaking is due to hemorrhages (internal and external bleeding). Its mucous membranes of the skin and intestine are also destroyed. Damage also occurs to the brain and central nervous system.
Cause:
Abnormally high levels of ammonia.
Treatment:
Test the water to confirm the disease. If ammonia levels are high, perform an immediate water change. It’s also a good idea to use a chemical that will remove the ammonia. Activated carbon, Ammo-Lock, or Tetra Easy Balance.
 
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thomas712

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Not sure I'm understanding here, but 1.0 ammonia can be deadly.
You set up a 20 gal Q-tank and it is only 10 days old. This tank is now cycleing or what?
What tank did you treat with marycin 2 ?
If you have put fish in the new Q-tank and it is only 10 days old then this is a problem, and why you are seeing an ammonia spike, its cycling now. There is no bacterial base in the new QT.
The reddness that you are seeing on that tang I believe is a bacterial infection.
I would get some water from the main tank and put that in the q-tank. In fact I would change half of that water or more with water from the main tank. What filtration are you using on the q-tank? What filtration is on the main tank, you may need some of it for the q-tank, like even takin some bio balls, filter floss
Give me the rest of the tank paramiters, salinity, temp everything on the new Q-tank and if there is any fish in it.
I'll drop a line to Beth, Terry, and Trojan
Thomas
 
zibnata

zibnata

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I started the qt tank with water from the main tank. I treated qt with maracyn -2 for 5 days and then after 5 days I started dropping salinity down to 1.009 over a 3 day period by doing water changes with fresh water. Nitrates are about 10 and ph is 8.2 Temp is 80. There is a hippo,yellow tang,blackcap basslet,royal gramma and blue devil damsil in the QT
 
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thomas712

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Without biological filtration just using water from the main will not make your tank instantly cycled. Putting that many fish in there will certainly cause an ammonia spike, you need something like a saddle filter or power filter with established bacteria to continue the nitrogen cycle.
I would continue water changes using water from the main tank dilluted for hypo.
Do you have any filtration what so ever on the QT?
You may have made a good call on the ammonia poisoning, my brain didn't go there yet.
How is the tang this morning?
Thomas
 
zibnata

zibnata

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I have a penguin biowheel power filter and a power head in the qt. The fish are active and the tang looks the same.When I started the qt I got info from the faq in the disease forum.I misunderstood and thought it wouldnt cycle if I used main tank water.I feel real stupid and after putting all the effort and money in the QT . But most of all I hope the fish will make it.
FROM FAQ
What water to Use?
If the water in your main tank is good quality, you can use that water to fill your QT. Of course, you will then have to replace the water in your main tank with new pre-mixed, aged salt water. Doing this is a real plus because your main tank water will have bacteria in it that will help establish and cycle your new QT. Otherwise, you can do 50-50 water in the QT, meaning 50% water from your main tank and 50% pre-mixed, aged salt water. Or, if you are patient and don’t mind a slower cycling process, you can just setup the QT with all new salt water then cycle your tank. Up to you how you want to handle it.
 
zibnata

zibnata

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I have some amo-lock left over from freshwater days. It says fresh or saltwater. Should I put some of that in QT ? Thanks
 
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