thoughts on other life..

beth

Administrator
Staff member
There are those, like myself, who do not see a conflict between God and science. The origins of the universe does remain unknown to us, however, other things are well documented, such as the age of our planet, and the fact that other living animals were here long before humans. If you take the Bible literally, then you believe that the world was created in a week. And that it is very likely that life on Earth, is the only life there is.
There is nothing wrong with believing that, but, what I am saying is, that this really is not the theme of this topic--a religious debate.
 

demartini

Active Member
That’s cool! Did you know that some day our Milky Way galaxy will collide with what I think is called the andromeda galaxy...and form a new huge galaxy...and our sun is going to gobble up the earth in 4 billion years!
gosh! so insane!
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Originally Posted by DeMartini
That’s cool! Did you know that some day our Milky Way galaxy will collide with what I think is called the andromeda galaxy...and form a new huge galaxy...and our sun is going to gobble up the earth in 4 billion years!
gosh! so insane!

Yes, and thank goodness we won't be there to see it.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
hmm so no advanced life and i have 4 billion years to kill b4 i die....hmm i wonder if halo will evr exist..
 

reefreak29

Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
There are those, like myself, who do not see a conflict between God and science. The origins of the universe does remain unknown to us, however, other things are well documented, such as the age of our planet, and the fact that other living animals were here long before humans. If you take the Bible literally, then you believe that the world was created in a week. And that it is very likely that life on Earth, is the only life there is.
There is nothing wrong with believing that, but, what I am saying is, that this really is not the theme of this topic--a religious debate.
actually god created everything in 6 days not a week

i want so bad to debate this but im holding back
 

sugarfox03

Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/...ac_mice_02.jpg
pictures from hubble... two galaxies merging... perhaps the next big bang :thinking: ...
***)
I'm sorry, but that "big bang" theory is just plain dumb. I'm a Christian and anyone with a brain cell who actually thought about anything, would realize that we didn't come from a "big bang" and the universe and everything in it was created. Sorry, I don't buy it.
And no, I do not believe that life exists anywhere else.
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Sugar, those inflammatory comments are just not fair. You are entitled to believe in whatever you wish, but not impose that on ohters...at least not in this forum. Which is why the religious debate is not appropriate here. Its a science topic, not a religious debate.
 

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by SugarFox03
I'm sorry, but that "big bang" theory is just plain dumb. I'm a Christian and anyone with a brain cell who actually thought about anything, would realize that we didn't come from a "big bang" and the universe and everything in it was created. Sorry, I don't buy it.
And no, I do not believe that life exists anywhere else.
hmmm... we are all entitled to our opinion... now I am not saying that i believe in the big bang theory, i was just bringing up a thought/observation that had to do with this thread... in other words some people do believe in the big bang and if two galaxies collide then perhaps what happened here could happen again... sure we could go off (or atleast I KNOW I could) on each others opinions/beliefs and how many brain cells it takes to believe a ficticious character, but whats the point... stick to idle banter or ask questions about something you dont understand before you jump to a holier than thou conclusion...
pardon the interuption and back to our regularly scheduled program already in progress... anyone see the Arora Boreales last night??? arent those headlights form UFO's???
 

reefreak29

Active Member
Originally Posted by SugarFox03
I'm sorry, but that "big bang" theory is just plain dumb. I'm a Christian and anyone with a brain cell who actually thought about anything, would realize that we didn't come from a "big bang" and the universe and everything in it was created. Sorry, I don't buy it.
And no, I do not believe that life exists anywhere else.
hey hun im born again to but its not worth it, we cant call other people names
and i garentee that even darwin now knows the truth
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
we cant call other people names
and i guarantee that even darwin now knows the truth
LOL.
Bringing religion into this discussion only turns the topic to something else. And that is not fair to those who want to talk about this simple topic...is there life outside of this planet?
Personally, I don't see a conflict between God and science, but others seem to. I don't have a problem with evolution and belief in God, or life all over the universe and a belief in God. If you do believe in God, then you must accept that you don't know everything. In fact, you, and all humans, know very little. Since that is a fact, then why be so closed minded...Anyway, its just a topic for those who want to discuss it. They should be able to do so without being called names, or brought into a religious debate. I respect everyone's beliefs.
 

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by Dogstar
This is a great thought, At one point there was life on the moon, man. We have sent devices on to Mars, Venus, other bodies and just out there....What if just like in our tanks, there is hitch hikers along for the ride.... :thinking:
whos to say that micro organisms didnt get burned up via exit of the atmosphere or frozen in outer space... or perhaps a satellite has "planted" something elsewhere... like a petri dish of sorts... what about bringing lifeforms back to earth???
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
thats a good point, what if there r others like us, that in theory we wer "fragged" from a larger "coral"....
 

dogstar

Active Member
Well, yes. We can keep the thread to simple yes or no question. But that begs for a reason as to why one answers either way....But IMO sharkboy is asking for a discussion, hes asking is this crazy....He uses the word think, that provokes thought.
To ask that one line of thought is to be shut out does not lead to a truth if the thought or the truth has not already be proven....( not that any truth will be discovered here ) Those that have been called literal, fundamental, close minded, ect. in their lines of thought, well there are those in any topic and we just have to aknowledge it with respect and continue. Deleat as needed.
I for one, do think/beleive that all of the universe and life was created by God. Inteligent design, call it what you will.
And sceince, without closeing their minds, have not proven that it wasn't.
The deeper they look into the small micro scale of things, the more they scratch their heads and say , maybe there is an inteligence behind this...the farther they look out in to space and time, same thing...What they '' thought '' they would find, results from new technologies and understandings...suprise after suprise. They go back and change their theories constantly....
We discussed the other solar systems being discovered and functioning in ways that the scientist dont understand. This leads them back to looking again at our own solar system and rethinking how it was formed. They dont know, its all theroies.
Gods not hideing it, its there....He's not stoping us from looking, he's given us the mind to think about it and the materials to look at it with, and maybe one day we will find what we are looking for. What will it be ? We are looking becuse we want to know, not because we already know.
I think he designed it all to function under exact rules and produced what was needed and pushed the button. We call them laws of nature or laws of phisics, gravity, E=mc2, we are adding them as we find them, some we are discovering dont apply in the fast of space or the microbes of atoms....but the laws of how it all really works are there....nothing wrong with looking.
Whats wrong is to say its this or that without proof. Now no one can say look, this proves that it is God, but as I said earlier, they cant prove its not.
The big bang may be just how it got started this go around, still is part of the plan, the design, but still does not say where all the mass came from, thats OK, keep looking, how do you get something from nothing....had to come from somewhere, right ??
Heres one relateing to the question at hand.....what is life ? Dust to dust, yes, but what acually happens in between ???
 

ruaround

Active Member
between dust to dust... discovery, representaion, growth, turmoil, loss, propagtion etc etc etc... if this "he" created this is it a success??? how does one explain natural disasters... and not just on this planet but throughout our galaxy... perhaps saturns rings are a form of distraction... and under all the various gases there is a terarium that houses saturns inhabitents... and we are thier "truman show"...
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Natural disasters are evidence that our planets, and others, are alive, not dead like a hunk of rock such as our moon. In and of themselves, they are not disasters at all; they become disasters, because we [and our property] get in the way of them.
 

dogstar

Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
between dust to dust... discovery, representaion, growth, turmoil, loss, propagtion etc etc etc... if this "he" created this is it a success??? how does one explain natural disasters... and not just on this planet but throughout our galaxy... perhaps saturns rings are a form of distraction... and under all the various gases there is a terarium that houses saturns inhabitents... and we are thier "truman show"...
Discovery, yes what, we are minerals, carbon, energy, Thats everywher, but what happens for it to become life? when it dies, why does it die, that smallest cell. Back to just minerals that are everywhere..I know it can be deep, im getting at some type of a life force, that thing that was needed to bring the mud to life....
Is the creation a success ?...its here, we are here..I would have to say yes to that.
Natural disasters are part of the natural laws, how else can one describe them ?
Saturn, same thing....gavity, force, energy, mass...but again, natural laws of what's out there, and here, we are still trying to understand them.
Inhabitiants on saturn would be cool. Maybe they drive cars called Earth.
 

ruaround

Active Member
Beth said that our stuff gets in the way... and we declare a disater... isnt it our right to be here on Earth??? between dudt to dust is massive chemical reactions and electric pulses that enable us to be alive... and go discover try to discover the other life forms... i am waiting for the day that i can order an ACME hyper drive so i cab go star trekin... brings a new meaning to "myspacae" :hilarious ...
 
Top