Time for my aquapod 24 journal...

jcovercash

Member
I figured now was as good of a time as any to start up this thread. As some of you may have seen I have been having problems with heating issues on my tank. My solution to this was to add a sump before wasting the money on a chiller that could be better spent on a sunpod :).
With my tank already being established and having all my rock, sand, and a few critters in the tank, that made drilling it out of the question. I don't have a Sunpod so I couldn't add a HOB overflow, so I had to start looking at other routes.
I ended up making a DIY PVC overflow. After 12 hours of tweaking I finally ended up with a design that when the siphon is broken it will start back up instantly with a full flow rate as soon as the water reaches the top of the intake tube. I have tested it 10 times in a bucket to make sure it does work correctly should the power break so I don't flood my house. I am very happy with this design and if I did another nano I would incorporate this from the start.
My sump is going to be made from a 20L tank. I have added a few 1/4 pieces of glass for baffles. I plan on having the middle section as a refugium of sorts for extra sand, live rock, and some microalgea. I just need to decide on a light for it now.
I am using 1/2" CPVC for my overflow, painted black with krylon fusion. It has a much smaller OD than the 1/2" PVC and with the low flow rate and minimal pressure I am not really worried about it as its rated for 100PSI and I know with this low water volume I am not nowhere near that and my return pump won't be either. I calculated flow rate and its roughly 120 GPH. My return pump is going to be a spare Maxi-Jet 1200 that I had laying around. I made a splitter for it so that I can return to the sump with one output and to the tank with the other. On the leg that goes to the sump is a ball valve so I can control the return output to the tank by closing the return leg to the sump, this way I don't put any head pressure against the pump itself.
I will be adding a skimmer shortly to the sump, but I haven't decided on a model yet. I am trying to save a few bucks right now so I don't want to put a fortune into one. Space is kinda a concern, I have much more space than I would in the nano but not as much as some people have in their sumps for skimmers.
When I bought the tank I made the stupid mistake of getting Current's stand with the tank. What a POS that was. Every time my dog (50lbs) would jump off my bed I thought the whole tank was going to topple over. That couldn't last so I ended up building a nice stand out of maple. Its very solid now and gives me a place to put all my supplies, timers, power strip, etc. I had some custom doors made for it and they just come in yesterday, so I am still in the process of staining/polying them.
As I get stuff up today I will try to update this post with pictures and answer any questions people might have about the overflow/sump setup.
Josh
 

worrballer

Member
PICS!!!! lol especially of the pvc overflow. I too have a tank already set up and want to start a sump. I've been looking at all options and if it can be hidden the pvc seems to be the way to go.
 

jcovercash

Member
Originally Posted by WorrBaller
http:///forum/post/2992215
PICS!!!! lol especially of the pvc overflow. I too have a tank already set up and want to start a sump. I've been looking at all options and if it can be hidden the pvc seems to be the way to go.
Im working on cutting up the hood now to accommodate the overflow. Unfortunately when I built my stand I wasn't thinking about putting a sump below it so I didn't make provisions for it spacewise..... I am setting mine off the left of mind. This tank is in my bedroom and I really want a larger tank but this one will have to do until I have the space for it.
If you planned ahead this pvc system could easily be ran to a sump that is hidden below your tank and you could make it fairly easy to keep everything hidden.
I have been snapping pictures along the way Ill try to get them uploaded soon.
 

jcovercash

Member
Hopefully this works....
First Ill start off with a FTS..... Kinda Boring... I started out with tap water (newbie...) and have a bit of an algae problem, I'm hoping my snails keep up the good work and finish cleaning them off... Don't worry I'm using RO water now.

Here is the PVC Overflow



Luckily with the nanos their already have a built in overflow area with a means to keep the critters out. By it being like this I was able to leave the PVC open without fear of anything trying to travel down it. The holes drilled in the drain line are critical IMO. Without them it took 20-30 seconds in testing for the water to start a full flow again because it would vapor lock. With them as soon as the water is above the opening it is at full flow again, should the pump shut off.
What the overflow looks like mounted in the tank. I didn't have room below my stand to put the sump so for now its going out to the side. The drainline is just hanging because it was only there temp while I test fit everything, it will be solid mounted to the wall when its finalized.


Here is the return pump PVC setup and where it is located in the tank. I chose this location because as I stated in my original post the sump was mainly put on this tank to help me control my temps. I wanted it to dump in front of my main flow so that it mixed well with the tanks water instantly.



I will be running a soft hose from the sumps return to the tank return when everything is setup.
There will be more pictures once everything is up and running.
 

uneverno

Active Member
Nice,
That's similar to the set up I'd almost finished for my 72. 20 was going to be my sump. Then I got laid off and figured the 72'd have to wait - so I cut all the partitions out of the 20 and set it up instead
 

jcovercash

Member
Its up an running right now, pretty quiet too for what it is. Im fixing to head out to work though so ill probably shut it down so i can monitor it more before leaving it alone... LOL
 

nissan577

Active Member
wow man the fuge and tank is coming along great. ima follow this thread to see how this badboy gets amazing!
 

jcovercash

Member
Well when I got home from work tonight I turned the pump back on and opened the ball valve for the drain line and it started right back up
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Hopefully I never have to worry about it working should the power fail, but I have pretty good faith in it from my real world testing today.
Im headed to the LFS tomorrow to look at skimmers and see what I think I can work into the sump. Need to get some more live rock too, along with some cheato!
Just did some testing tonight after letting this run for a few hours.
Temp: 78.3
Salinity: 1.023
Ph: 8.2
Ammonia: 0
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
Might go get my first corals tomorrow!
 

jcovercash

Member
Got the sump completed and got my heaters set. Temps have been staying 79* solid now both at night and when the lights are on. Finally nice to have that worked out.
Got a few pieces of live rock in with the sand in the sump (rock not in pictures), and also got a fission nano skimmer (got a good deal and figured I would try it until I was able to get something better).
Sump has been running for 3 days now without any issues. I do have much more evaporation now (2-3 cups of water in a 24hr period) but I run my fan in my room a lot this time of year. not that big a deal IMO. Its fine as long as I add water everyday. I have my height marked and just fill it up to there before I go to bed every evening.
Side view of the sump right after I added the sand.

Complete setup from the top.

Side of Tank to Sump. The routing of the flex hose is just temp while I was making sure my flow rates were good in my tank, going to change that up next week.

I have tested the function of the overflow and it seems to work as its supposed to if I loose power and then the power comes back.
 

jcovercash

Member
Picked these up at my LFS today.
Orange Polyps

Metallic Green Mushrooms

The Mushroom rock is nice. It has quite a few feather dusters growing on the back side. They are really tiny though. you can see one in the picture.
 

nanomantis

Member
I am going to be that guy but doesn't having external filtration sort of defeat the simplicity of having an all inclusive nano such as the aquapod? Why not get 30 cube and put a sump under that instead? I am sure it would be less expensive even after buying lighting.
 

jcovercash

Member
Originally Posted by NanoMantis
http:///forum/post/2996270
I am going to be that
guy but doesn't having external filtration sort of defeat the simplicity of having an all inclusive nano such as the aquapod? Why not get 30 cube and put a sump under that instead? I am sure it would be less expensive even after buying lighting.
Some people buy it for its all-inclusiveness.... But not me. I bought it because it was all I really had room for... Its tight in the area its in. I really wanted something larger, but space constrained it. The sump is beside my desk, out of the way. I couldn't have had a stand that was large enough to house a sump where the tank has to be located right now.
Another reason, is why not... I modify everything I own, I couldn't let this sit when I saw a way that I could make it better..... Was it the best route to go from the start.... No, but we all learn. At least I haven't hurt anything so far from my learning.
 

nanomantis

Member
I would like to point out aswell that modifying it more than likely voids the warrenty.
I know with the oceanic biocube if it isnt even on an oceanic stand it voids the warrenty. They seem to be pretty anal about it.
 
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