tiny white dots?
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sepulatian
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Originally Posted by peckhead
my pakistani butterfly has been in my tank for about a month now. tonight when i looked at him i notced he has about 15 tiny white dots on him and some on his fin. and my blu spotter puffer has one on his fin
is this ick?
Most likely. Do you have a cycled qt tank?
my pakistani butterfly has been in my tank for about a month now. tonight when i looked at him i notced he has about 15 tiny white dots on him and some on his fin. and my blu spotter puffer has one on his fin
is this ick?
Most likely. Do you have a cycled qt tank?
nicetry
Active Member
Originally Posted by peckhead
no. what can i do? i have a 2 ten gallon tanks.but would the fish be happy in a ten gallon tank?
if i used water from my dt tank would my tank still need to cycle?
what are some of those reef safe things for ick?
Do you just have the two fish or are there others. All exposed should be treated. A 10 gallon would do in a pinch for one fish but I wouldn't put two in there.
Use water from the display but the tank needs to cycle. You can add a sponge filter or small hang on filter with a cultured wheel/pad.
The reef safe "cures" are most often useless. Use hyposalinity for the most reliable treatment.
no. what can i do? i have a 2 ten gallon tanks.but would the fish be happy in a ten gallon tank?
if i used water from my dt tank would my tank still need to cycle?
what are some of those reef safe things for ick?
Do you just have the two fish or are there others. All exposed should be treated. A 10 gallon would do in a pinch for one fish but I wouldn't put two in there.
Use water from the display but the tank needs to cycle. You can add a sponge filter or small hang on filter with a cultured wheel/pad.
The reef safe "cures" are most often useless. Use hyposalinity for the most reliable treatment.
peckhead
Active Member
well today it is all gone, i dont think it was ick, but we will find out i guess if it comes back. it was late at night like 2am when i saw it and the lights were still on. my fish are wierd when i leave the lights on for a long time and thery wanna sleep.
it didnt look like ick that i have ever seen but like i said we will find out becuase there is pretty much nothing i can do seeing that i have a sfe, butterfy, blue spotted, humu humu, mandarin, brackish puffer, and clownfish....
it didnt look like ick that i have ever seen but like i said we will find out becuase there is pretty much nothing i can do seeing that i have a sfe, butterfy, blue spotted, humu humu, mandarin, brackish puffer, and clownfish....
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by peckhead
well today it is all gone, i dont think it was ick, but we will find out i guess if it comes back. it was late at night like 2am when i saw it and the lights were still on. my fish are wierd when i leave the lights on for a long time and thery wanna sleep.
it didnt look like ick that i have ever seen but like i said we will find out becuase there is pretty much nothing i can do seeing that i have a sfe, butterfy, blue spotted, humu humu, mandarin, brackish puffer, and clownfish....
That is the life cyce of ich. You have about 4-10 days before they all reproduce and your fish get bombarded with ich. I am not even slightly kidding. You are warned. Use this time to set up a large enough qt tank, buy a sponge filter and place it in the DT in a high flow area and just let it gather bacteria. Get the qt going and start the cycle. You are going to have to treat. Don't wait to see what happens, get ready now. If nothing happens (unikely, but hey......) then you at least have a quarantine tank ready for all future purchases.
well today it is all gone, i dont think it was ick, but we will find out i guess if it comes back. it was late at night like 2am when i saw it and the lights were still on. my fish are wierd when i leave the lights on for a long time and thery wanna sleep.
it didnt look like ick that i have ever seen but like i said we will find out becuase there is pretty much nothing i can do seeing that i have a sfe, butterfy, blue spotted, humu humu, mandarin, brackish puffer, and clownfish....
That is the life cyce of ich. You have about 4-10 days before they all reproduce and your fish get bombarded with ich. I am not even slightly kidding. You are warned. Use this time to set up a large enough qt tank, buy a sponge filter and place it in the DT in a high flow area and just let it gather bacteria. Get the qt going and start the cycle. You are going to have to treat. Don't wait to see what happens, get ready now. If nothing happens (unikely, but hey......) then you at least have a quarantine tank ready for all future purchases.
peckhead
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wow, really? my tank has tiny white dots all over the back wall of the tank, idk what it is but it looks like what i saw on my butterfily that day. can ick really look like a bunch of dots all spread out and none of them touching each other?
also, i have a fowlr would i be able to make it a hospital tank with out using meds?
also, i have a fowlr would i be able to make it a hospital tank with out using meds?
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by peckhead
wow, really? my tank has tiny white dots all over the back wall of the tank, idk what it is but it looks like what i saw on my butterfily that day. can ick really look like a bunch of dots all spread out and none of them touching each other?
also, i have a fowlr would i be able to make it a hospital tank with out using meds?
The spots on the glass could be copepods (if they are moving) or snail eggs. You can use your display tank but you will have to remove all of your LR and inverts into a rubbermaid tub with a powerhead and a heater. Some people find this much easier because the tub will not have to be cycled and the fish can remain in their tank.
wow, really? my tank has tiny white dots all over the back wall of the tank, idk what it is but it looks like what i saw on my butterfily that day. can ick really look like a bunch of dots all spread out and none of them touching each other?
also, i have a fowlr would i be able to make it a hospital tank with out using meds?
The spots on the glass could be copepods (if they are moving) or snail eggs. You can use your display tank but you will have to remove all of your LR and inverts into a rubbermaid tub with a powerhead and a heater. Some people find this much easier because the tub will not have to be cycled and the fish can remain in their tank.
peckhead
Active Member
can an eel be affected by ick?
i dont htink there pods on my glass, bu i dont no what they are. its really wierd. they dont move.
so, if my butterfly has ick, then all my other fish have it too then right?
if i am to just hypo my butterfly,then put him back in, he could get it again because it could still be on other fish? so i would have to take all my ish out and then hypo them and then put them back in?
i have too much lr to take it out. i would be really hard for me to get all the fish out. idk how i would ever get the eel out or the mandarin
i dont htink there pods on my glass, bu i dont no what they are. its really wierd. they dont move.
so, if my butterfly has ick, then all my other fish have it too then right?
if i am to just hypo my butterfly,then put him back in, he could get it again because it could still be on other fish? so i would have to take all my ish out and then hypo them and then put them back in?
i have too much lr to take it out. i would be really hard for me to get all the fish out. idk how i would ever get the eel out or the mandarin
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by peckhead
can an eel be affected by ick?
i dont htink there pods on my glass, bu i dont no what they are. its really wierd. they dont move.
so, if my butterfly has ick, then all my other fish have it too then right?
if i am to just hypo my butterfly,then put him back in, he could get it again because it could still be on other fish? so i would have to take all my ish out and then hypo them and then put them back in?
i have too much lr to take it out. i would be really hard for me to get all the fish out. idk how i would ever get the eel out or the mandarin
The mandarine can stay. He will not get ich. All of the other fish need to be removed. They have all been exposed. Eels can get ich as well. Nicetry had an excellent recommendation in another post. Fashion a divider out of some eggcrate or other material, remove the rocks from one side of the tank. Herd the fish over there with a net or two. When they go into the clear area, drop the divider. Catch the fish.
can an eel be affected by ick?
i dont htink there pods on my glass, bu i dont no what they are. its really wierd. they dont move.
so, if my butterfly has ick, then all my other fish have it too then right?
if i am to just hypo my butterfly,then put him back in, he could get it again because it could still be on other fish? so i would have to take all my ish out and then hypo them and then put them back in?
i have too much lr to take it out. i would be really hard for me to get all the fish out. idk how i would ever get the eel out or the mandarin
The mandarine can stay. He will not get ich. All of the other fish need to be removed. They have all been exposed. Eels can get ich as well. Nicetry had an excellent recommendation in another post. Fashion a divider out of some eggcrate or other material, remove the rocks from one side of the tank. Herd the fish over there with a net or two. When they go into the clear area, drop the divider. Catch the fish.
peckhead
Active Member
how exactly should i do this. im going to get a 20 or so gallon tub from walmart in a little bit, im going to do a water change on my dt about 15 gallons. that fifteen gallons im going to put into the tupperware tub and put the new water into he tank. im oging to use a hang on filter with a piece of filter floss from my dt and maybe a bio ball or something...am i going to have to do water changes all the time because it is going to try to cycle or should i be ok?
i dont have to use any meds right?
i think to lower the salinity im going to add r/o water to the tub, instead of taking out saltwater and adding ro. since the tub will be bigger the the water change i am going to do, as iadd water to the tub it will fill up and lower teh salinity...good idea?
i dont have to use any meds right?
i think to lower the salinity im going to add r/o water to the tub, instead of taking out saltwater and adding ro. since the tub will be bigger the the water change i am going to do, as iadd water to the tub it will fill up and lower teh salinity...good idea?
lion_crazz
Active Member
Originally Posted by peckhead
this sucks........fjkl;dasjfkdsal;j if i qt fish from now on i will not get ick right?
That is correct. If you quarantine ALL new additions of livestock properly, you will not expose your display tank to the dreadful parasite.
this sucks........fjkl;dasjfkdsal;j if i qt fish from now on i will not get ick right?
That is correct. If you quarantine ALL new additions of livestock properly, you will not expose your display tank to the dreadful parasite.
lion_crazz
Active Member
It's alright - most reefers learn some of the most important lessons the hard way. A true "master" in this hobby is one who corrects their ways once they learn that their initial practices were faulty.
Now, let's talk about how you are going to perform hyposalinity so that we can help you do this process the best possible way. Do you have a quarantine set up to move your fish to? Are you going to leave the fish in the display and move your rock and inverts? Did you have another idea in mind?
Now, let's talk about how you are going to perform hyposalinity so that we can help you do this process the best possible way. Do you have a quarantine set up to move your fish to? Are you going to leave the fish in the display and move your rock and inverts? Did you have another idea in mind?
peckhead
Active Member
ok, im going to take 15 gallons out of my dt and put it into a 30g qt. since the 30g will only have 15g in it, im going to add ro water to lower the salinity down to 1.009 instead of filling up the 30g with water from my dt then removing the water and adding ro water...
make sense now?
and will i need to treat the qt qith copper or will hypo work better? i dont ever want ick again
well i would only add ro water every few hours. i think it would work just the same. i wouldnt fill the qt all the way right away. i would fill it about half way with dt water, then slowly start adding r/o water over 48 hours...
make sense now?
and will i need to treat the qt qith copper or will hypo work better? i dont ever want ick again
well i would only add ro water every few hours. i think it would work just the same. i wouldnt fill the qt all the way right away. i would fill it about half way with dt water, then slowly start adding r/o water over 48 hours...
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by peckhead
ok, im going to take 15 gallons out of my dt and put it into a 30g qt. since the 30g will only have 15g in it, im going to add ro water to lower the salinity down to 1.009 instead of filling up the 30g with water from my dt then removing the water and adding ro water...
make sense now?
and will i need to treat the qt qith copper or will hypo work better? i dont ever want ick again
well i would only add ro water every few hours. i think it would work just the same. i wouldnt fill the qt all the way right away. i would fill it about half way with dt water, then slowly start adding r/o water over 48 hours...
Just make sure that you bring the SG down at a slow but constant rate over the 48hrs and be sure to test the ph of your ro water and adjust it before it goes into your tank. Do you have a refractometer?
ok, im going to take 15 gallons out of my dt and put it into a 30g qt. since the 30g will only have 15g in it, im going to add ro water to lower the salinity down to 1.009 instead of filling up the 30g with water from my dt then removing the water and adding ro water...
make sense now?
and will i need to treat the qt qith copper or will hypo work better? i dont ever want ick again
well i would only add ro water every few hours. i think it would work just the same. i wouldnt fill the qt all the way right away. i would fill it about half way with dt water, then slowly start adding r/o water over 48 hours...
Just make sure that you bring the SG down at a slow but constant rate over the 48hrs and be sure to test the ph of your ro water and adjust it before it goes into your tank. Do you have a refractometer?
peckhead
Active Member
yes i have a refractometer. you guys might be mad at me. but i went to 2 lfs and theyboth told me not to hypo. im going to regret it im sure but im going to try kick ick. it just doesnt seem possible for me to hypo 6 pretty big fish. idk what to do. im more stressed out then the fish.
the butterfly right now has no spots on him accept on his rear fin.
the butterfly right now has no spots on him accept on his rear fin.