thanks clown, splat, and JP, I love my tank. I dont have the "established" look a lot of older tanks have, so getting a compliment on my 1 year plus tank (after the move) means a lot to me. I frag everything so its hard to get HUGE show pieces. because I frag so much. some day I'll slow down I figured adding a 65g might help.... not yet, time for a frag GOT (grow out tank) starting with a steel rack from a 55g.... we'll see what it look like when I'm done.