Tore down my 180 last night

kogle

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Originally Posted by Brandan
http:///forum/post/2581353
I am not against anything you have done. Algae like that is almost impossible to get ride of naturally. . . I don't think many of you really looked at those pictures closely. You can't even see the sand. . . Sometimes you have to do extreme things to fix problems. The Bleach is not bad. . . Has anyone heard of dechlorinator? Chlorine and Bleach are very similar chemically speaking, and dechlorinator does the same on bleach as it does on Chlorine. If done correctly, you do not have to worry about Bleach leaching back into the water after the tank is setup again. Best of luck, hope everything goes as planed.

Thank you very much. Finally someone who thought this through without just bashing me.
This method is not for the faint of heart and if not done correctly can lead to bad problems down the road. It's not hard to do, just very time consuming. I think that is where most people would/could fail. I see people every day who can't even wait for their tank to cycle.
You guys are going to freak out when I show you how this thing will be cycled but it's almost a garunteed way to eliminate the possibility of an algae bloom. No lights will be on this tank for close to 3 months. Like I said very time consuming but the end result is much more reliable.
With all that said NOTHING can replace good husbandry and water quality.
 

kogle

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Well gang another update. I finally got rid of the rest of the clean up crew I won't be needing last night. Also got the fuge cleaned out as far as rocks and other junk and took all the rock out of my wet dry. (I use rubble in there instead of bio balls)
Need to unhook some more equipment tonight and the tank will be ready for bleach. Don't think the OPR or PH probes will like the bleach so I better make sure I get everything unhooked.
QT tank is looking great. First water change since adding everything out of the 180 will be tonight.
Original can of rock needs bleach drained and rock all needs rinsed off really well in preparation for the first fresh water soak.
Hopefully I can get some pictures.
Man you never realize how much equipment you have until you take it all apart...
 

kogle

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More updates on the progress of the tear down...
Some pictures of the rock getting it's first rinse in freshwater.


 

kogle

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Some equipment pictures. Forgot how much stuff I had hooked up to this tank... Closed loop is two little giant pumps with shut off valves for access without making a mess and clear check valves so I can tell if a pump gives out on me. If a pump shuts off it closes the check valve on the other pump so there is no backwash... pays to have redundancy in this hobby...



 

kogle

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And finally the 180 empty after being bleached, rinsed, and drained.
I'm going to drill it tomorrow for dual internal overflows and to have the closed loop suction and return come through the glass instead of over it. Also going to drill a couple extra holes for later in case I need to upgrade or pull more water out of the tank later.
I'm thinking about making a manifold that will run my reactors off of a little giant pump...
 

kogle

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Another update. I drilled the tank this past weekend and got it painted. Waiting on the paint to dry so I can install my bulheads. After that I'll silicone the overflows in and install the adjustable durso's I'm building.
Sorry no pictures but I'll try and get some tonight.
 

kogle

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Haven't posted on this site in a couple weeks. Some progress has been made though. Got the tank painted, bulkheads installed (except for the one I have to go get tonight), got my DIY MH's and ballasts wired up including quick disconnects so I can remove the canopy quickly if needed. Got my internal overflows cut to size, adjustable durso's made, got the motor contactor wired up that will take the load off of my lighthouse controller so it can control the lights for timing purposes or shut them off if the tank gets too hot...
Think that's about it for now. Let me know what you all think. I'm trying to envsion how my rock layout is going to be but it's tough...

 

iyachtuxivm

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Hey looks great. Like the updates! Someone had suggested use of a dechlorinator did you use that on the rocks? Did you test for chlorine? Im asking because I have a 10gal full of rock with same problems, its about 22lbs.I was thinking of tossing it all bucause i've tried to get rid of the algae,I would like to keep some of it if possible.
 

kogle

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I ended up using good old baking soda as a declorinator. Cheap and easily available... as for testing for chlorine I didn't feel a need to. You could smell some after the first fresh water rinse, very little after the first fresh water soak, and none after the RO/DI and baking soda soak. Now that the rock has been drying a little while it smells like (and I know this will sound funny) rock... Two of my friends have used this same method with no ill effects...
This has been an overwhelming amount of work. I really forgot how much equipment I had. I'm really hoping to get this thing back on the stand tonight. I have a feeling if my wife has to look over the tank sitting in the floor one more night to watch TV my next post might be my obituary.
 

kogle

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Got all the plumbing wrapped up yesterday and filled the tank with fresh water to test for leaks. Only found one leak so that's not bad considering the plumbing that went into this. Tightened up the fitting and waiting to see if it's good. Man those new durso's handle a lot of water. I was able to crank my Mag18 wide open and I've still got room to spare. The display is quiet now but there's so much water going through the filter now it's kind of noisy. Not too bad though.
Here's some pictures. Let me know what you think.


 

tropills

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hey KOgle, one thing , make sure when the power goes off or something that the sump/fuge's don't over flow, I had the same set-up on my build, having one higher then the other , re-created a power outage and it over flowed, the lower sump needs to be the same height as the upper. just measure to the top of the upper fuge from the bottom then get another tub that height. trust me now's the time to fix this, unless your sure it won't over flow...
the reason I say this is because the water from the upper fuge will drain to the bottom of the main drain going to the lower thus over flowing the lower sump. hope this makes sense. other then that Great job so far,
 

kogle

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Originally Posted by tropills
http:///forum/post/2630728
hey KOgle, one thing , make sure when the power goes off or something that the sump/fuge's don't over flow, I had the same set-up on my build, having one higher then the other , re-created a power outage and it over flowed, the lower sump needs to be the same height as the upper. just measure to the top of the upper fuge from the bottom then get another tub that height. trust me now's the time to fix this, unless your sure it won't over flow...
the reason I say this is because the water from the upper fuge will drain to the bottom of the main drain going to the lower thus over flowing the lower sump. hope this makes sense. other then that Great job so far,


Good advice! Lucky for me I've had this problem in my first set up a few years back... disaster... That was the 1st thing I checked this time and I was very surprised to see that I get less water draining into the sump with the internal overflows than I had with the external ones. I hate to second guess something that works so I'll just go with it...

After filling this thing with water and letting it run all night I noticed a very small water seep from one of the bulkheads. It's actually where the feed hose screws into the bulkhead. Think I'm going to have to take the bulkhead totally loose to fix this since the PVC is glued on the back side... Good news is it's one of the top bulkheads so I should only have to drain 40 or so gallons to fix it. Then I'll re fill it and check it. I guess one leak isn't bad considering all the possible places it could have leaked with all of this new plumbing...
 

tropills

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Originally Posted by KOgle
http:///forum/post/2631877
Good advice! Lucky for me I've had this problem in my first set up a few years back... disaster... That was the 1st thing I checked this time and I was very surprised to see that I get less water draining into the sump with the internal overflows than I had with the external ones. I hate to second guess something that works so I'll just go with it...

After filling this thing with water and letting it run all night I noticed a very small water seep from one of the bulkheads. It's actually where the feed hose screws into the bulkhead. Think I'm going to have to take the bulkhead totally loose to fix this since the PVC is glued on the back side... Good news is it's one of the top bulkheads so I should only have to drain 40 or so gallons to fix it. Then I'll re fill it and check it. I guess one leak isn't bad considering all the possible places it could have leaked with all of this new plumbing...
glad to see it's all coming together (kinda ) smoothly. keep up the good work
 
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