waterdogjenn
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I have a 80gl tank its been running for 3mo. In the last 2 weeks 3 of my turbo snails have died. then I was reading and they need calcium. could that be it and if so how do you add them to your tank?
turbo snails dying
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sepulatian
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Originally Posted by waterdogjenn
http:///forum/post/2991935
I have a 80gl tank its been running for 3mo. In the last 2 weeks 3 of my turbo snails have died. then I was reading and they need calcium. could that be it and if so how do you add them to your tank?
They don't need calcium, they need natural food. If you bought them to clean up diatoms then they will not have enough natural food. They will eat some, then slowly die of starvation. What are your water readings? What is your SG?
http:///forum/post/2991935
I have a 80gl tank its been running for 3mo. In the last 2 weeks 3 of my turbo snails have died. then I was reading and they need calcium. could that be it and if so how do you add them to your tank?
They don't need calcium, they need natural food. If you bought them to clean up diatoms then they will not have enough natural food. They will eat some, then slowly die of starvation. What are your water readings? What is your SG?
socal57che
Active Member
Check your nitrates.
How did you acclimate?
Like Sep said, what are your test results?
How did you acclimate?
Like Sep said, what are your test results?
waterdogjenn
Member
I just did my test tonight thought that migh be it PH 8.2, amonia 0, nitrate 0, nitrite 0, salinity 1.022. all the fish are doing fine. Yes I did get them to eat the diatoms and its pretty well cleaned up. Is ther any thing I can do?
waterdogjenn
Member
the LFS said to leave in the bag then let them loose. they have been there for about a month.
socal57che
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Originally Posted by waterdogjenn
http:///forum/post/2991964
the LFS said to leave in the bag then let them loose. they have been there for about a month.
Um...don't do that. Inverts need to be acclimated to the DT chemistry, not just temp.
Next time set up a drip. A while back, I posted a procedure for a nice setup that will do temp and chemistry at the same time. I'll see if I can find it.
My water is at 1.025. I consider 1.022 a bit low for inverts.
http:///forum/post/2991964
the LFS said to leave in the bag then let them loose. they have been there for about a month.
Um...don't do that. Inverts need to be acclimated to the DT chemistry, not just temp.
Next time set up a drip. A while back, I posted a procedure for a nice setup that will do temp and chemistry at the same time. I'll see if I can find it.
My water is at 1.025. I consider 1.022 a bit low for inverts.
socal57che
Active Member
I can't find the thread, but I'll keep looking. You should get into the habit of drip acclimating every new specimen. It removes acclimation from the equation if something dies and is FAR better for the specimen regardless of what it is. You may want to look into a QT setup, too.
Copper is something else to consider.
Copper is something else to consider.
misteramerica
New Member
Originally Posted by waterdogjenn
http:///forum/post/2991935
I have a 80gl tank its been running for 3mo. In the last 2 weeks 3 of my turbo snails have died. then I was reading and they need calcium. could that be it and if so how do you add them to your tank?
I posted a thread about a month ago with the same exact issue with turbo snails and diatoms. I have buku diatoms with no obvious water quality issues. My experience has been exactly the same as yours. They initially did a good job of keeping up with the diatoms, but eventually died off. Other members said that I needed more of a variety of algae to support them. I believe this is the most reasonable explanation.
My question is: "Is there another type of snail that is more suitable to a diatom dominated tank?" Is there a snail that can be almost entirely sustained by eating diatoms?
http:///forum/post/2991935
I have a 80gl tank its been running for 3mo. In the last 2 weeks 3 of my turbo snails have died. then I was reading and they need calcium. could that be it and if so how do you add them to your tank?
I posted a thread about a month ago with the same exact issue with turbo snails and diatoms. I have buku diatoms with no obvious water quality issues. My experience has been exactly the same as yours. They initially did a good job of keeping up with the diatoms, but eventually died off. Other members said that I needed more of a variety of algae to support them. I believe this is the most reasonable explanation.
My question is: "Is there another type of snail that is more suitable to a diatom dominated tank?" Is there a snail that can be almost entirely sustained by eating diatoms?
socal57che
Active Member
In a new tank a diatom bloom is normal and usually subsides within a few weeks. If you were to add a diatom eating animal, it would starve when the bloom dies off.
Usually flow increase will help if it's occuring in an established tank.
Osmotic shock can take a month to kill the animal.
Usually flow increase will help if it's occuring in an established tank.
Osmotic shock can take a month to kill the animal.
jennln
Member
This thread was a big help to me in learning acclimation methods of inverts....lots of good info here....
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/335667/acclamating-cleaner-crew
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/335667/acclamating-cleaner-crew
waterdogjenn
Member
I figured the snails would eat other algae that has grown on the glass but it sounds like thats not enough.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by waterdogjenn
http:///forum/post/2992032
I figured the snails would eat other algae that has grown on the glass but it sounds like thats not enough.
Not in a new system.
Here is a pic of the acclimation setup I referenced. It allows temp and chemistry acclimation to be done simultaneously. Inverts are very sensitive when it comes to chemistry acclimation, sea stars in particular.
Here's a link to the original article...
As far as I can tell, this is a clean link. Sep, if you feel it's a violation, please nuke it and I'll send the info via emails.
http://jjgeisler.com/reeftank/iv_drip_system.htm
(I like this way better than the SWF method) You can use a bucket on a shelf instead of an IV bag. I use a small container placed on top of my light fixture. Remember to turn your lights off when introducing livestock.
http:///forum/post/2992032
I figured the snails would eat other algae that has grown on the glass but it sounds like thats not enough.
Not in a new system.
Here is a pic of the acclimation setup I referenced. It allows temp and chemistry acclimation to be done simultaneously. Inverts are very sensitive when it comes to chemistry acclimation, sea stars in particular.
Here's a link to the original article...
As far as I can tell, this is a clean link. Sep, if you feel it's a violation, please nuke it and I'll send the info via emails.
http://jjgeisler.com/reeftank/iv_drip_system.htm
(I like this way better than the SWF method) You can use a bucket on a shelf instead of an IV bag. I use a small container placed on top of my light fixture. Remember to turn your lights off when introducing livestock.
