Twin Overflows = two pumps?

eslowfiddy

Member
I have my new All Glass 125. I have all my equipment but the pumps. I figure I could get either:
1 x 1050 GPH return pump with some kind of y-splitter for both overflow returns
or
2 x 650 GPH return pumps with one going to each over flow
It costs about the same either way. Is one way any better than another or should I just worry about price?
Also, silly question but if the power went out, would my tank completely empty itself with the sump overflowing onto the carpet?
-E
 

bang guy

Moderator
I use two pumps. This is not a effecient power wise as one large pump. However, if one pump dies (happens about every 10 years). I still have plenty of circulation until i get it replaced.
The returns provided in the AGA overflow kit have a small hole drilled in the white elbow. You need to keep this hole open. A paperclip once a month will do.
If you didn't buy the overflow kit and made your own be sure to drill a hole to stop the siphon in the event of a power outage.
 

almarktool

Member
also ,
depending on what u plan to do reef or fish only u might want to go up to to 750 gph pumps i have a mag 12 on my 72 and still want more
 

eslowfiddy

Member

Originally posted by Almarktool
also ,
depending on what u plan to do reef or fish only u might want to go up to to 750 gph pumps i have a mag 12 on my 72 and still want more

Right now I know that I want a puffer and a pair of mated maroon clowns. I'm not sure what else I want just yet. :confused:
I did get the All Glass overflows for my tank. They were pricey though. :(
-E
 

broomer5

Active Member
I run dual return pumps on both my tanks.
If one craps out, you can still keep going.
If you want to clean one, you can still keep going.
If you want to set them up on timers to come on/off at different times of the day, no problem.
I just heard my second pump kick on - must be a little after 6:00 a.m.
 

reefer2

New Member
I have a 125 gallon ALL GLASS AQUARIUM tank w/two overflows and I use two 1200 mage drive pumps.
 

bigeyedfish

Member
I am working on plans for a 125 gal AGA hopefully getting filled around Christmas time. I was planning on doing two pumps and two corner overflows as well. Anyone see a problem with having one Mag12 plumbed into the sump from one of the overflows
? I was thinking a 29 gal glass tank and then a second less power pump in a separate refugium (another 29 gal) coming from the second overflow. I cant figure out if there would be flooding problems based on the uneven drainage and return.
many more questions to come, thanks for the help in advance.
 

broomer5

Active Member
BigEyedFish
In my opinion, having two separate sumps - not connected sharing common water - and running one overflow to each of these individual sumps will result in one or the other overflowing.
The overflows - if each is the same height in the tank - will do what they do - drain water.
The separate drains leading to each sump will take the water that drains.
The two return pumps do what they do - and pump water at some fairly fixed rate.
None of the equipment, pardon the phrase, "knows any better" and will just do what it does.
Problem is that there will eventually be a difference between the two sump levels. Could be a quick change you notice right away, or the level(s) could creep up or down over a period of time.
Up or down - neither one is too good a thing to happen.
Wet floor or burned up pump - or both.
Now if you were to use acyrlic tanks, or plastic containers, and connected the two sumps with bulkhead fittings and a length of pipe - it would work fine. The water will seek it's own (same) level in both sumps, being equal, no matter if one drain is dumping more into one sump than the other, no matter if one return pump is pumping more. But you'd have to make this connection line pretty good size relative to the changes that could occur.
A quarter inch tube may not be a good connection line size, something larger I'd imagine.
All sort of depends on the total rate of water moving up and back down, and the rate of change that would occur between the two sides.
If the rate of change between the two sumps was very small and did not occur quickly - a smaller balancing line would work.
If on the other hand, the rate of level change happend fast, you'd need a larger diameter pipe connecting both sumps - to make up for this faster rate of level(s) changing.
I think that's right.
 

bigeyedfish

Member
thats what i thought but just wanted to make sure from the experts, and broomer you are definitely one of those! I am really hesitant on using plastic containers again. I have them now under my 55gal and they didnt do a good job holding the weirs together. What i might do is build the stand to hold a 55gal tank and then section it accordingly. then it will be easier to maintain water flow and the like.
thanks for the help Broomer!!!:)
 

bang guy

Moderator
2 sumps?? I guess I didn't make that leap. Two sumps are out of the question. I thought we were just talking about two pumps.
Guy
 

broomer5

Active Member
Hey Bang Guy - you're okay - we were just talking about 2 pumps
ESlowFiddy was asking about 2 pumps
then
BigEyedFish jumped on in and asked about 2 pumps and 2 sumps
Thought you were losing it huh ;)
And BigEyed, yeah the rubbermaid type containers are okay if you just want a large open holding sump for equipment, etc., but as you said .... once you start doing baffles, weirs or dividers - they sort of suck.
I mean ...... they are not quite as easy to work with, or reliable as a rigid walled materials like glass or acrylic, and certainly do not hold up with these partitions either.
Bascially they suck at that.
 
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