Two New Wartskin Anglers

strams

New Member
Received 2 maculatus from an online source at approximately 1:05pm pst Friday. Floated them for 20min and dripped them for 3.5 hours. Now they are in a divided quarantine tank with similar "main tank" water conditions. They took the acclimation very well and the bigger one is now displaying threats to the little one and vise versa. The big one actually did a little shake move too. They both look very alert, looking at me when I observe them. No labored breathing either, which I take to be a good sign. 10% water changes will begin tomorrow and quarantine is scheduled for at least 6-10 weeks, if these guys have something, I'll find it. I must say they are beautiful and very warty! This was my first time buying fish online too and yeah some of you might say I paid too much for wartys (they were expensive!), but this has been a great experience and worth every penny.
Update: Today they both look great. Did a quick water change and fed each a 3/4 shore shrimp which they both ate quickly. I probably won't feed them again until mid next week.
Enjoy the pictures.




 

mrdc

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Very cool! You dropped some change on those 2! I hope they do well for you and thanks for sharing.
 

connor

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wow there beautiful LOL (i bet anyone other that a saltie would think im retarted to say there beautiful, but they are)
 

aw2eod

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Great fish and pics!
Get that glass heater away from the bottom of the tank though...it's not good for him to be leaning next to it.
 

strams

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I started lowering the salinity today. Dropped it from 1.025 to 1.022; by tomorrow it should be at 1.010.
 

fishieness

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Originally Posted by StRams
I started lowering the salinity today. Dropped it from 1.025 to 1.022; by tomorrow it should be at 1.010.
first off, that is REALY fast. second of all, why are you lowering it?! 1.022-1.025 is perfectly fine. 1.010 inst needed unless you are doing hypo. which you maybe if you are trying to prevent ick? in which case, that big a drop overnight is still too quick.
 

strams

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Not fast at all. Hyposalinity therapy is mostly done by four water changes over the course of two days, in that case, salinity is dropped way higher than what I'm doing. Each of my changes is dropping about .003 (1.025 to 1.022) on the overall salinity. As you can see, it'll take more than four water changes to complete this and thus fish adjusting to the changes are greatly increased. I am not treating for ick because due to the 3.5 hour acclimation, they were not overly stressed. The purpose of hyposalinity is two fold. The first is to treat fish for ick or and any other parasite (as a precaution). The second is to boost body fuction by lowering the need to regulate osmotic balance, this redirects energy to building a better immune system and digestion.
 

monalisa

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Geez, those are the coolest little guys I've seen since the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. They look just like little frogfish!! Is that what they are??
In any case...best of luck with them...wow!!
Lisa :happyfish
 

fishieness

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Originally Posted by StRams
Not fast at all. Hyposalinity therapy is mostly done by four water changes over the course of two days, in that case, salinity is dropped way higher than what I'm doing. Each of my changes is dropping about .003 (1.025 to 1.022) on the overall salinity. As you can see, it'll take more than four water changes to complete this and thus fish adjusting to the changes are greatly increased. I am not treating for ick because due to the 3.5 hour acclimation, they were not overly stressed. The purpose of hyposalinity is two fold. The first is to treat fish for ick or and any other parasite (as a precaution). The second is to boost body fuction by lowering the need to regulate osmotic balance, this redirects energy to building a better immune system and digestion.
oh, okay, i see. i dont realy see people doing hypo except to treat for ick
In my personal opinion, it is a little fast. If ;you moced by .003 today and you are oging to by .012 by tomorrow morning? or do you mean tomorrow at the end of the day? I would take it slower, but im sure your fish woudl be able to stick it out.
PS: im still jelous...... lol
 

celacanthr

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AWESOME!
Originally Posted by StRams
Not fast at all. Hyposalinity therapy is mostly done by four water changes over the course of two days, in that case, salinity is dropped way higher than what I'm doing. Each of my changes is dropping about .003 (1.025 to 1.022) on the overall salinity. As you can see, it'll take more than four water changes to complete this and thus fish adjusting to the changes are greatly increased. I am not treating for ick because due to the 3.5 hour acclimation, they were not overly stressed. The purpose of hyposalinity is two fold. The first is to treat fish for ick or and any other parasite (as a precaution). The second is to boost body fuction by lowering the need to regulate osmotic balance, this redirects energy to building a better immune system and digestion.
Wouldn't this stress them more? it is my understanding that most saltwater fish (excluding sharks) are pretty much isotonic with the water they are found in naturally, and they are found in the indian ocean, which has a salinity varying between 32 and 37 PPT-at the surface, and since saltier water sinks, you could say that if you go farther down it only gets saltier, which it probably isn't that simple-which is MUCH higher than 1.01(all other things being equal that is about 13 or 14 PPT). So if you were to lower the salinity, wouldn't this stress them further, because their body would now have to work harder to retain salt so that their organs can work effectively.
Now, my whole paragraph could mean nothing if anglers are hypotonic compared to the waters they are naturally found in, or if they are found in a wierd part of the Indian ocean where the salinity is at 13 or 14 PPT. Is this the case?
 

mrdc

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I aksed my LFS store if they ever get them and he said from time to time. He said that they can eat things twice as big as them. He also said that he lost one due to biting off too much. It took in a queen angler or emperor (forgot what he said). Basically it folded it in half. He learned since then and now keeps them in a tank by themselves when he gets them. I have a 35g that I am trying to determine what to turn it into when the oscar ever dies that currently inhabits it. I was going with seahorses but now this fish really interests me!
 

strams

New Member
Ok a quick update of that's going on with the anglers. They went through hypo without problems which ended a while ago. Prior to hypo, Toady, the little one, developed a bloated stomach. So I stopped feeding him and to my surprise the bloat just went away a few days ago. I was sure I'd lose him. So out of hypo not for two weeks and the quarantine developed a leak so I had to move them into their permenant tank (for now) yesterday. Their tank is just a small plastic tank on the counter top but what's great is that hoses run the entire setup into my main tank and sump. They're currently residing with ricordia mushrooms and with each other. That's another thing, during quarantine I had them separated but decided to remove the divider one day, no aggression was shown other than the erect fins and jiggling.

Their prior to them being there




Toady is proving really hard to capture on film, he always comes out blurry.
 
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kimc

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Thanks for the update... facinating fish!!! Let's see some more!!!
 

sinaloa213

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I Saw One At An Lfs Today I Wanted To Know If They Will Live Great In A 24 Gal Nano...i Really Wanted To Buy It I Forgot To Ask The Worker If It Is Reef Safe.......is It Reef Safe?
 
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