Ureka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bronco300

Active Member
Originally Posted by MaTT B
ok now we all know the rykna is a beast when it comes to swahorses and knows so so so much about them but why cant she share something she found on another site thats really good info maybe im missing something.

its not the sharing of info, its the way its brought over.
 

eliteaqua

Member
I will say in my experience that SWF does not have a closed mind, these boards are fantastic and so are the people. I have a problem with another website, if I wouldn't get into trouble I would name them, talk about closed minded they KNOW everything and you know nothing and they are downright mean!! So be happy to get on SWF and abide by their rules,and have respect.
 

ozmar

Member
Seems to me that this whole issue could be settled by simply linking to the referenced information, or by including it in quote tags and attributing the source, or (preferably) both.
For example:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Netiquette originated in the pre-world wide web days when text-based email, Telnet, Usenet, Gopher, Wais, and ftp dominated internet traffic, which was primarily used by educational and research bodies. At that time, it was considered somewhat indecent to make commercial public postings and the limitations of insecure, text-only communications demanded the community have a common set of rules. The term "netiquette" has been in use since as early as 1988, as evidenced by early posts of the satirical Dear Emily Postnews column.
Source: Wikipedia article on {EDIT LINK}
Ozmar the Helpful
 

ophiura

Active Member
Unfortunately, it is the links that are a problem. I'm not saying I love it. But it is the issue. A short quote as you show there is not an issue, IMO, but there are grey areas when it is entire articles.
 

mjessu

New Member
Originally Posted by Ozmar
Seems to me that this whole issue could be settled by simply linking to the referenced information, or by including it in quote tags and attributing the source, or (preferably) both.
For example:
Source: Wikipedia article on {EDIT LINK}
Ozmar the Helpful


I also don't see the problem with bringing someone elses data over if it is attributed. If we are trying to grown the knowledge base, why restrict the amount and type of data as long as it is not a direct link to a competitor?
 

bronco300

Active Member
you can bring the info over...you just cant link it or copy it word for word
it's just a policy,and has been...
 

ozmar

Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
Unfortunately, it is the links that are a problem. I'm not saying I love it. But it is the issue. A short quote as you show there is not an issue, IMO, but there are grey areas when it is entire articles.
We can't link to other web sites from this message forum?
That's a rule?!?
Where's the smile for "Completely Flabbergasted"?

Wow. I don't know what to say. I wonder what reasoning lies behind that rule...
Oh well...
Ozmar the Clueless
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by Ozmar
We can't link to other web sites from this message forum?
That's a rule?!?
Where's the smile for "Completely Flabbergasted"?

Wow. I don't know what to say. I wonder what reasoning lies behind that rule...
Oh well...
Ozmar the Clueless
The reasoning is pretty sound once you think about it. SWF is a business. They run this forum at their expense. While you don't have to be a customer to use it, I'm sure they hope the forums build their customer base. Linking to other forums, sites, articles, etc. would basically allow other companies to advertise here for free (and in direct competition).
That may seem a bit far fetched, but it happens. In fact, we're currently dealing with a "new member" whose an admin from a competitor's site sending pm's to members here inviting them to their site....
 

ophiura

Active Member
Originally Posted by Ozmar
We can't link to other web sites from this message forum?
That's a rule?!?
Where's the smile for "Completely Flabbergasted"?

Wow. I don't know what to say. I wonder what reasoning lies behind that rule...
Oh well...
Ozmar the Clueless

As I said, I don't necessarily like it because it is a "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" approach. But, for now, it is how it works...hence the "Google netiquette." I don't make the rules, but I try to enforce them to the best of my ability.
 

veronicad

Member
So, bottom line--is Pancur a good or a bad idea for a tank with Dwarf Seahorses, copepods and brine shrimp as the only living residents?
 

bronco300

Active Member
its a very good thing to have on hand...you should dip everything that goes in your tank with that to be safe of hydroids etc.
 

rykna

Active Member
Originally Posted by veronicad
So, bottom line--is Pancur a good or a bad idea for a tank with Dwarf Seahorses, copepods and brine shrimp as the only living residents?


After my first proposal, I agree with Jmick:
Originally Posted by Jmick

It will also destroy the biodiveristy in your tank and you'd have to be a fool to treat with it. I certainly hope no one treats their tank with it based on the poor advise you have given.
After Jmick's response I reread the article and now agree that the treatment would have 99%, if not 100% chance of destroying all of the biodiversity in your tank. The reason I had first considered treating the DT instead of using a QT, is the devistating death toll that parasites can have on seahorses. And if there were hydroids present in the DT the panacur treatment would eliminate them. However, even though the instructions for Panacur states that there will be minimal damage to the bio bed, as we know, any damage to a tank's biodiversity can/will lead to a 100% tank crash. Therefore doing far more damage then treating a individual seahorse in a QT.
So definitely use the QT!
 

veronicad

Member
Thanks. I haven't even started my tank yet, but I'm trying to get my brain full of as much info as I can so I can make good decisions and wise choices. Thanks again.
 

rykna

Active Member
Originally Posted by veronicad
Thanks. I haven't even started my tank yet, but I'm trying to get my brain full of as much info as I can so I can make good decisions and wise choices. Thanks again.

No problem
Ask away
What kind of set up were you thinking of?
 

veronicad

Member
My sole purpose is to enjoy dwarf seahorses. So far, I'm leaning towards nothing else live in the tank except the ponies and their food. I'm still not definite; weighing pros and cons.... I'm trying to get my hands on that book 'complete guide to seahorses in the aquarium' . Seems to be a pretty comprehensive and breed-specific guide. I'm totally a research-before-pet kind of person. It has served me well in the past. I look forward to many more discussions here with you all before I finally take the plunge (pardon the pun).
 

bronco300

Active Member
thats great to hear veronica...i think i lurked around seahorse websites for 6months -1year before i finally got a tank and bought some...they are amazing creatures that is for sure
 
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