Using copper
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sepulatian
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Hello Matt. What is the copper reading? What kind of test kit are you using? What disease is going on that you are using coppersafe for? You seriously have a 110 gallon QT? Are you using this in your display?
matt b
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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2952178
Hello Matt. What is the copper reading? What kind of test kit are you using? What disease is going on that you are using coppersafe for? You seriously have a 110 gallon QT? Are you using this in your display?
Well I have a 180 DT. And I had a 75g as a QT and it had a chip and a store had a dollar per gallon sale and 110 is the same foot print as a 75g. LOL.
I keep it at 2.0 and raise it if I see a problem. I just copper every fish I bring in. I also bring in fish for other people.
http:///forum/post/2952178
Hello Matt. What is the copper reading? What kind of test kit are you using? What disease is going on that you are using coppersafe for? You seriously have a 110 gallon QT? Are you using this in your display?
Well I have a 180 DT. And I had a 75g as a QT and it had a chip and a store had a dollar per gallon sale and 110 is the same foot print as a 75g. LOL.
I keep it at 2.0 and raise it if I see a problem. I just copper every fish I bring in. I also bring in fish for other people.
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by MaTT B
http:///forum/post/2952221
Well I have a 180 DT. And I had a 75g as a QT and it had a chip and a store had a dollar per gallon sale and 110 is the same foot print as a 75g. LOL.
I keep it at 2.0 and raise it if I see a problem. I just copper every fish I bring in. I also bring in fish for other people.
Coppersafe is effective at 2.5ppm, for treating ich. A 16 oz bottle of coppersafe treats 380 gallons of water and costs $9.99. You were looking for a cheaper way though. It would help us if you told us what exactly you are looking to do.
http:///forum/post/2952221
Well I have a 180 DT. And I had a 75g as a QT and it had a chip and a store had a dollar per gallon sale and 110 is the same foot print as a 75g. LOL.
I keep it at 2.0 and raise it if I see a problem. I just copper every fish I bring in. I also bring in fish for other people.
Coppersafe is effective at 2.5ppm, for treating ich. A 16 oz bottle of coppersafe treats 380 gallons of water and costs $9.99. You were looking for a cheaper way though. It would help us if you told us what exactly you are looking to do.
matt b
Active Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2952238
Coppersafe is effective at 2.5ppm, for treating ich. A 16 oz bottle of coppersafe treats 380 gallons of water and costs $9.99. You were looking for a cheaper way though. It would help us if you told us what exactly you are looking to do.
Coppersafe needs around 20ml per 4g to get to 2.0. It says like 5 ml per 4g but that is so wrong. I got a 5g bucket and it took 25m to get to 2.0. That is why I am looking for a cheaper chelated copper. I thought all chelated coppers did the same thing. But I am just trying to pervent ich, velvet, ect. I have found once you see a big problem it is often to late for alot of sensetive fish so I am just trying to be pro active.
http:///forum/post/2952238
Coppersafe is effective at 2.5ppm, for treating ich. A 16 oz bottle of coppersafe treats 380 gallons of water and costs $9.99. You were looking for a cheaper way though. It would help us if you told us what exactly you are looking to do.
Coppersafe needs around 20ml per 4g to get to 2.0. It says like 5 ml per 4g but that is so wrong. I got a 5g bucket and it took 25m to get to 2.0. That is why I am looking for a cheaper chelated copper. I thought all chelated coppers did the same thing. But I am just trying to pervent ich, velvet, ect. I have found once you see a big problem it is often to late for alot of sensetive fish so I am just trying to be pro active.
aquaknight
Active Member
Ditch the Coppersafe. Cupramine is the only way I treat. It's neither chelated or unchelated, but rather the copper is bonded to an organic. Making Cupramine both extremely safe, and extremely effective. So safe, treating semi-deep water Butterflies (notoriously sensitive fish), have had no problems with Cupramine. It also has an strong resistence to bonding with other things in the tank. I've treated Cupramine with live rock and sand, and yet to notice the levels dropping from the rocks/sand absorbing the copper.
matt b
Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2952706
Ditch the Coppersafe. Cupramine is the only way I treat. It's neither chelated or unchelated, but rather the copper is bonded to an organic. Making Cupramine both extremely safe, and extremely effective. So safe, treating semi-deep water Butterflies (notoriously sensitive fish), have had no problems with Cupramine. It also has an strong resistence to bonding with other things in the tank. I've treated Cupramine with live rock and sand, and yet to notice the levels dropping from the rocks/sand absorbing the copper.
So is it chelated or ionic? What kind of test are you using? Chelated or ionic.
http:///forum/post/2952706
Ditch the Coppersafe. Cupramine is the only way I treat. It's neither chelated or unchelated, but rather the copper is bonded to an organic. Making Cupramine both extremely safe, and extremely effective. So safe, treating semi-deep water Butterflies (notoriously sensitive fish), have had no problems with Cupramine. It also has an strong resistence to bonding with other things in the tank. I've treated Cupramine with live rock and sand, and yet to notice the levels dropping from the rocks/sand absorbing the copper.
So is it chelated or ionic? What kind of test are you using? Chelated or ionic.
aquaknight
Active Member
Cupramine is ionic bonded to a organic to stabilize. I use a Salifert Cu test kit, which is I also believe is ionic. Have you scanned WWM?
matt b
Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2952914
Cupramine is ionic bonded to a organic to stabilize. I use a Salifert Cu test kit, which is I also believe is ionic. Have you scanned WWM?
Scanned WWM??
http:///forum/post/2952914
Cupramine is ionic bonded to a organic to stabilize. I use a Salifert Cu test kit, which is I also believe is ionic. Have you scanned WWM?
Scanned WWM??
al mc
Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2952706
Ditch the Coppersafe. Cupramine is the only way I treat. It's neither chelated or unchelated, but rather the copper is bonded to an organic. Making Cupramine both extremely safe, and extremely effective. So safe, treating semi-deep water Butterflies (notoriously sensitive fish), have had no problems with Cupramine. It also has an strong resistence to bonding with other things in the tank. I've treated Cupramine with live rock and sand, and yet to notice the levels dropping from the rocks/sand absorbing the copper.
Matt,
I agree. Was very impressed with this product. Never lost my biologic cycle while using it on a Hippo tang in QT. The fish has been going strong in my DT for over a year now.
http:///forum/post/2952706
Ditch the Coppersafe. Cupramine is the only way I treat. It's neither chelated or unchelated, but rather the copper is bonded to an organic. Making Cupramine both extremely safe, and extremely effective. So safe, treating semi-deep water Butterflies (notoriously sensitive fish), have had no problems with Cupramine. It also has an strong resistence to bonding with other things in the tank. I've treated Cupramine with live rock and sand, and yet to notice the levels dropping from the rocks/sand absorbing the copper.
Matt,
I agree. Was very impressed with this product. Never lost my biologic cycle while using it on a Hippo tang in QT. The fish has been going strong in my DT for over a year now.