VHO Wiring- straight or braided

psusocr1

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i have a question...
would it matter if i were to wire a retro vho ballast with braided copper wire( like speaker wire)? or if i used the thick straight(non-braided) wire( like on all ballasts) would it be better?
would it make the ballast fire different? power different to bublbs?
 

zman1

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Solid conductor is better than stranded, if it is a permanent non moving wiring - solid, if it's going to be moved /cable flexed then stranded.
My stranded cable from the 250W MH ballast to the Pendants are 18/3 105C 600V
18 gauge stranded, 3 conductor wire, rate for 600V and a temp of 105C or 221F (if I did my math correct).
The same decision for VHO. If the ballast is remote and you move the lights often then stranded. If the lights are fixed and the ballast is mounted to the same structure then solid. My IceCap VHO uses 18 gauge solid wire to the lamps it is fixed (they don't move separate).
 

psusocr1

Active Member
thanks alot zman
do you think it would make a big difference if i used the braided wire like stereo wire? if so i will just get the solid wire,, but with the price of copper these days!
 

zman1

Active Member
I added VHO info to the post above. I would just get the wire you need or if you aren't comfortable with that, order an IceCap wiring harness, they are about $25. Then cut the wires off you need - Rainbow colors -LOL The harness wires are solid conductors.
 

tropills

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why not just use a heavy gauge extension cord , 3 wire 25 footers are only
$6.00 at walmart... then just cut to fit works great for me. wires run cool no heat build up what so ever, just a idea to kick around....
 

mrdsmack

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The solid wire will make a cleaner looking job. The stranded will be more flexiable. I used thermostat wire,solid 20 awg, for my T-5 retro kit with a Icecap 660. My ballast will not be moved. Stranded wire is more flexiable but is also a bit hardder to get a good connection on the end caps. Solid wire will be easier to install in the end caps and ensure a good connection. When you are talking about wire size,AWG, this is the factor to what amperage the wire can handel. Florescent lighting does not use a lot of amps. Therfore you can use a smaller AWG. I didnt check what my amp draw is on the T-5's, however if Im not mistaken a T-8 two bulb fixture will pull in the area of .27 amps. Thats is about 1/4 of an amp. with that said 14 awg is rated for 15 amps. Your speaker wire is around 18 awg or 16 awg. It will be ok to use for safty reason, but it might turn out as clean of a job. The main factor in the whole issue is to ensure that the 120 volt side of the ballast is wired with the proper size wire.
To answer your questions easy is yes you can use your speaker wire, and no it will not make the ballast fire different.
 

scsinet

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You need to observe the voltage ratings of the wire. In any fluorescent or halide based system, the wires on both sides of the ballast are exposed to a minimum of household voltages, 120v. Depending on the design of the ballast and lamp type, it may be many times that between the ballast and the lamps.
You should be using wire rated for 300 volts minimum. Speaker wire will work in most cases, but it is not rated for 300 volts. That doesn't mean it can't take it, but since they didn't rate it or test it for that voltage you won't know. It's not the best way to do it, and certainly not something I'd recommend.
You can get hookup wire (also called "appliance wire") from a number of different places, such as MCM Electronics, Parts Express, or Jameco. They all carry it in a variety of different sizes, colors, standed/solid, and voltage ratings.
18 gauge is sufficient for any flourescent wiring and halides up to 250 watt. Above that, you should look at upsizing to 16 gauge. 16 gauge wire will safety handle up to 13 amps at 120 volts, which you would only exceed in a very large lighting system.
Use solid wire for a neat job, but use stranded for any place where the wire flexes frequently, such as when a hood is opened or closed. If you want to use stranded and you need to use the push in type connections like lots of sockets have, you can strip the wire, twist the strands tightly, then coat the end with solder to "tin" the ends. That will make them push into the sockets easier and make a solid connection.
 
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