Video Game History

speg

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I was reading another thread and someone happened to chime in with a common 'xbox sucks playstation is the pwnerz' comment. It shocks me completely that people havent thrown away their ps2 or traded it for a xbox... it is VERY obvious and FACT that xbox has far superior grafics and speed than ps2... not to mention never really needing to buy memory cards.... ever.. but there are some good reasons that people have ps2.. actually... only one reason they SHOULD have one and not a xbox. PS2 has way more games..... and I shall explain why>>>
In the begining... there was Atari... hmm.. no need to go that far back I spose.. Atari was a good system for stoners I spose.. but video games never really started in my book until regular Nintendo
.. yes the system that gave us mario and duck hunt on the SAME cartridge... yes a cartridge.. no cd's here. Once the system reached about 2 months you had to constantly blow on the inside of the game to try and get any loose dust or whatever outta there... was a real beauty. At the time nintendo was a HUGE improvement over the Atari system.. Nintendo had no competition whatsoever and ended up making some big $$$.
A few years later (not sure of the dates, I was young) the almighty Super Nintendo
made its appearance... QUITE a great system.. even today I find myself going back and enjoying some of the old games that (in my opinion) blow some newer games away. The look of the super nintendo vs the nintendo were like light and day... such a great system... but whats this... finally someone rose to the challenge of taking on the big power known as Nintendo... Sega Genesis was creeping around. Note that before Sega Genesis there was plain sega.. a system that was couple steps higher than atari... I still have this system. Sega Genesis was.. a decent system.. the problem? The games... it didnt have many decent games.. and Nintendo was already well known compaired to the Sega.. Sega was making money.. but could not compete with Nintendo... Sega created Sega CD.. which was one of the first cd systems out there.. this didnt help Sega much because again the games were crap... even though on paper the sega cd had better graphics than the Nintendo... Nintendo still won the war.
Nintendo 64! I remember the first time I played this system.. I rented it and Mario 64... the graphics were insane... it was like playing a cartoon (it seemed).. so beautiful and the controls were super. The 3D worlds were so well done.. several good games made its way out onto this system... truely Nintendo would be a power that wouldnt soon disappear.
The fall of Nintendo.... the Sony playstation was around now.. Nintendo of course still with the advantage of being better known as far as video games go would start seeing a decline in its cash flow. Sony started getting all the great game companys to sign with them.. Final Fantasy 7 is just one of the many games that people made a purchase of a PS for... people bought a system for just a single game? This is where games start to become very important.. Play Station was starting to win over Nintendo.
The three way war... The three super powers in the video game wars (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft) all battled hard. Sony leading the way due to now being better known for games than even Nintendo. Nintendo just took way too long to bring out the gamecube... and its original color................................. purple.......... This was a kid system... when studies showed that quite a large number of adults were video game players.. and even though a 13 year old isnt considered an adult.. he'd die before he let his 13 year old friends come over and play his purple video game system. Finally in a last ditch effort to make sales Nintendo did come out with alternate colors to gamecube (black/silver) and made more adult(ish) games.br />
Microsofts Xbox on paper is a far superior system to the gamecube and ps2. Better graphics, better load times, far more memory... yet... PS2 outsold both systems because they were >> a) better known for games and b) had the top game companys making games ONLY for the ps2 system. Some great games like Halo and The elder scrolls still werent enough to beat the ps2.... oh and did I mention... the ps2 could play ps1 games??? So anyone with a ps1 had NO reason to not buy a ps2.
Ok where this puts us now... Xbox has released the Xbox 360.. in compairson to how quickly the ps1 and ps2 came out.. xbox put this system out FAST... Why did it do this.. its obvious.. to get the edge over Playstation. Microsoft will now be able to start beating playstation because people who are true gamers wont be able to wait for months for their ps3's to finally come out.. Sony shoulda learned from Nintendos mistake... but obviously they werent paying attention.
 

speg

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Talk of the new Nintendo have been whispering here and there.. my prediction is Nintendo will slowly fall out of the 'wars' and leave PS and Xbox to duel it out. Eventually Xbox >SHOULD< beat Sony... but it all depends on how well Xbox keeps up.. and if they can sign with more of the bigger companys and try to get any game that comes out on ps3 to also come out on their system.
Feel free to comment.. There are several other lesser systems that never made it anywhere... I can remember 3DO or something, Jaguar.. Dreamcast which I ended up wasting money on... thats all I can think of at the moment... of course I left out all the hand held systems.. because they are pointless in my ultimate point.
I just wanted to write this because it always annoys me when people say 'playstation pwnz xbox'... because it REALLY doesnt. Xbox in every way is better than playstation.. except the sellection of games.. which if you've walked into a video game store lately.. you can see for yourself that Xbox has been working on that problem.
Feel free to comment.. or ignore this post all together... im so tired I forgot what I wrote.
 

1journeyman

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Intelivision came out after Atari but before any of the others..
And the Atari had Armor Ambush... I remember as a kid playing for hours against my dad driving these little squares with lines for turrets blowing each other up...
 

the monkey

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There were plenty of systems that you missed :)
The Commodore 64/128 was a killer setup for the day...
FWIW - I just purchased a PS2 for my son. He wants "a playstation". The words X-Box never muttered from his mouth... I explained to him that the PS3 isn't out for a while so I got him the PS2 for Xmas with 2 steering wheels so we can race head to head...
Bottom line is - if you read the specs on the PS3 and you see the amount of games available on the XBOX now (and assume that the developers will treat the 360 with similar kidgloves) - the PS3 will kill it....
 

zsalinas

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From my own personal experience ps2 sucks ass. Sorry, but it does. I've owned two in my day and they both stoped working so finally I got fed up and bought an x-box. X-box may not have the amount of games, but it did come out later and it has a ton of games I'd rather play anyway. Ps2 was a waste of money: memory cards, controller adapater so you could play four player. everything was a fortune and it was completely retarded. Most games now are made for both systems. I've never had a problem with my original x-box which is why I got a 360. This system owns. Rumors have it ps3 won't even be out till 2007 and if that's the case they're falling behind. By the time they come out with they're system gaming companies may have already looked for a new system to bring out games and this leaves you with the 360. Sony finally decided to get smart and give the ps3 a hard drive and more controllers all the good stuff they should've done forever ago. I think the system will do good but definately not "Kill It" They're slowly falling behind and if Microsoft keeps doing what they are I don't see much competition in the future.
 

pontius

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Nintendo will eventually go the way of Sega and make games for the other systems. Xbox and PS are for the more mature crowds, Nintendo is for the pre-schoolers.
 

zsalinas

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Originally Posted by Pontius
Nintendo will eventually go the way of Sega and make games for the other systems. Xbox and PS are for the more mature crowds, Nintendo is for the pre-schoolers.
I agree it's gonna be their only way to keep making money. Poor nintendo!
 

speg

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That will be the VERY far future if it happens... Nintendo isnt a big threat right now.. but it is still making money. If they learn from their mistakes (which so far they have) then they will be able to stay in the game. They made the gamecube more acceptable with adults and even dropped the price of it quite a bit. I picked one up last year I believe for 99 bucks brand new. It is actually a pretty nice system, and it even has better graphics and load time than the ps2.
A kid that worked at Walmart came up to me one day while I was looking at the games... I said to him hey, i'll take that 'Destroy all Humans game'. The kid said ok its a cool game, which system you want it on? I told him Xbox. The kid replied so quickly 'sucky system'. I said ok. The kid said 'I seen the graphics of this on ps2 and xbox and ps2 graphics were better'. I told him well.. I want the xbox game ok? <<<<<<<<<<<<< People are SO biased when it comes to these two systems. It is almost a light and day difference of the looks of the two systems, and 99.99% of the time xbox looks and plays better. Its as if people have also gotten caught up in the console wars and have taken sides. I post the facts.. if playstation ended up having a system that was better than xbox and had better games that interested me then I would without a doubt buy another playstation system. Games like Halo and Marrowind are what made me first buy xbox. Years ago when Final Fantasy 7 came out I >HAD< to buy a playstation so I could play that game... games are what sell systems
Once again someone comes in with their silly 'ps pwnz and xbox sukkerz'. I posted the facts, and I believe that xbox will soon have the highest selling console system in history.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Speg
Once again someone comes in with their silly 'ps pwnz and xbox sukkerz'. I posted the facts, and I believe that xbox will soon have the highest selling console system in history.
I couldn't disagree with you more...xBox will fizzle out when the PS3 hits the stores!!! the reason why the PS3 isnt coming out until possibly march is because they want to be sure that the console will function and not have the problems that the PS2 had...the xBox 360 is a good machine, but there are alot of bugs in it because they released it to qwik and people are already having to send them back!!! Microsoft expected this and they are doing something above and beyond normal customer service - offering free shipping and a 48 hour turn around...I will wait for a PS3 and not even play a 360...EVER!!! the PS# is going to be a far superior machine and wont even look back to see the 360 drowning in its wake!!!
P.S. xBox controllers are horible and not ergonomic at all!!!
 

bs21

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Originally Posted by The Monkey
There were plenty of systems that you missed :)
The Commodore 64/128 was a killer setup for the day...
FWIW - I just purchased a PS2 for my son. He wants "a playstation". The words X-Box never muttered from his mouth... I explained to him that the PS3 isn't out for a while so I got him the PS2 for Xmas with 2 steering wheels so we can race head to head...
Bottom line is - if you read the specs on the PS3 and you see the amount of games available on the XBOX now (and assume that the developers will treat the 360 with similar kidgloves) - the PS3 will kill it....

i agree IMO ps3 is gonna be better than xbox.... on another note for all those who bought xbox 360 for christmas alot of the new 360s are being recalled because the harddrives are crashing
by the way i have ps2 and xbox and like them both so i have an un biased opinion on the matter.
 

speg

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Originally Posted by ruaround
I couldn't disagree with you more...xBox will fizzle out when the PS3 hits the stores!!! the reason why the PS3 isnt coming out until possibly march is because they want to be sure that the console will function and not have the problems that the PS2 had...the xBox 360 is a good machine, but there are alot of bugs in it because they released it to qwik and people are already having to send them back!!! Microsoft expected this and they are doing something above and beyond normal customer service - offering free shipping and a 48 hour turn around...I will wait for a PS3 and not even play a 360...EVER!!! the PS# is going to be a far superior machine and wont even look back to see the 360 drowning in its wake!!!
P.S. xBox controllers are horible and not ergonomic at all!!!

Again people not posting fact.
Fact - Some 360's had problems and Microsoft with such speed paid for them to be overnighted TO them and FROM them for free. Also if you have done any research on that matter it was a VERY VERY small percentage of the 360's that had the problem.
You say the ps3 isnt coming out until march because they want it be free of bugs? That may be a small reason, but that is not the right reason. You should research these things before posting about them. I know you like the playstation system and because of your love for it you wanna post fiction instead of fact.. but please.. i'd like this to be unbiased and full of fact. No more 'xbox sucks playstation is great' posts because they simply dont tell the facts.

Also I like xbox controllers... there really hasnt been a controller released for any system that I couldnt get used to and enjoy.
 

speg

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Originally Posted by salty tank
bought PS2 because of GTA 3. most amazing game ever. I like xbox, but i dont really like the controllers.

Have you tried GTA 3 for Xbox? There is some strange satisfaction to be able to listen to music YOU enjoy (some of that 80's music was actually fun to listen to though) while roaming through the streets gunning down the innocent.
Also if you like car games minus the violence then try the first Gran Turismo... for Playstation and today is still my favorite race sim period. The sequels didnt do it for me sadly.
 

jacknjill

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i like ps2 way better than x-box. better games etc. i also hate the x-box controllers. from all the systems ive played, ps controllers are my absolute fav. also, the x-box' are freakin huge! they take up so much room. that black x-box was a huge black ugly box. (the new face plates are cool though, but they are still big) ps are much more compact and cool. the new ps3 are gonna be awesome! black, silver, or white (and other colors after a while im sure) and the games are gonna slide in like a car. i cant wait! i dont think ill ever buy an x-box. once ps3 comes out itll blow the 360 away!
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Speg
Again people not posting fact.
Fact - Some 360's had problems and Microsoft with such speed paid for them to be overnighted TO them and FROM them for free. Also if you have done any research on that matter it was a VERY VERY small percentage of the 360's that had the problem.
You say the ps3 isnt coming out until march because they want it be free of bugs? That may be a small reason, but that is not the right reason. You should research these things before posting about them. I know you like the playstation system and because of your love for it you wanna post fiction instead of fact.. but please.. i'd like this to be unbiased and full of fact. No more 'xbox sucks playstation is great' posts because they simply dont tell the facts.

Also I like xbox controllers... there really hasnt been a controller released for any system that I couldnt get used to and enjoy.
Then what is the reason for pushing the date back??? They have over 3 times the games ready to realease (and not mostly first person shooters) than the 360 had on its release...oh and did anyone mention that your beloved 360 isnt backwards compatible off the shelf??? you HAVE TO HAVE a broadband connection and download capability to play original xbox games...this will not be the case when the PS3 comes out...
 

speg

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Originally Posted by ruaround
Then what is the reason for pushing the date back??? They have over 3 times the games ready to realease (and not mostly first person shooters) than the 360 had on its release...oh and did anyone mention that your beloved 360 isnt backwards compatible off the shelf??? you HAVE TO HAVE a broadband connection and download capability to play original xbox games...this will not be the case when the PS3 comes out...


Firstly I dont have a xbox 360. Only got the first xbox... and im not sure yet if i'll get a 360. I am really looking to stop playing games period and concentrate on my adult film actor career. kidding about that last part ;) im really not gonna stop playing games.... :)
Secondly from what i've read all you need to play old xbox games is the hard drive.. which comes included with the higher priced bundle or for sale at $100. Did I read wrong? I dont see what having 'download capability' has to do with playing old games :p
 

speg

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Xbox 360 with the hard drive is backward-compatible for an array of original Xbox titles too, which means both original and Xbox 360 gamers will be able to play in the same matches online with Xbox Live.
There you were wrong.. do some research cause im tired of doing it for you.
 

ruaround

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if you buy the core system you cannot play xbox games...you answered your own question...you have to have the hard drive to play old games, get on xbox live, save games... microsoft is already gouging by saying "you can upgrade at your own pace" this is B.S. they just want more $$$...and you do have to download a patch for each and every xbox game that you want to play...via xbox live or the internet (soon they will mail you a disc) appearntly you havent researched enough for me :jumping:
 

zsalinas

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Originally Posted by ruaround
if you buy the core system you cannot play xbox games...you answered your own question...you have to have the hard drive to play old games, get on xbox live, save games... microsoft is already gouging by saying "you can upgrade at your own pace" this is B.S. they just want more $$$...and you do have to download a patch for each and every xbox game that you want to play...via xbox live or the internet (soon they will mail you a disc) appearntly you havent researched enough for me :jumping:

Don't mention every single game till you actually know! I currently have the 360 and played halo 2 online last night. Only few games have the platform to play on the new 360, but who gives a ---- are you really gonna start poppin in old games just for the hell of it. I don't think so. There's so many better games out right now I got a 360 and haven't looked back. Everything has bugs when it first comes out EVERYTHING. That's just how it is. I'll bet anything the ps3 will also have bugs. They aren't put to the tests that we as consumers put on them on a daily basis.
 
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