Wade Phillip's is gone? And they're putting in Jason Garrett?

nikesb

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lol garrett wants to take it into his own hands. he wanted some experience first before taking the riegn. now his plan is backfiring on him without having a quarterback
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328322
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328320
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328084
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328022
Wade getting fired was what I have been hoping for since week 4.
They will keep most everyone....you can't blame garrett for the offense complete...Wade and Jones made the decision to let certain linemen go....that is the problem with the offense...and the players not catching the ball...which garrett cant control either.
lol, I"m sorry cutting Flozell is a TERRIBLE argument for this debachle. And hell yes you can blame Garrett. He's the head coach of the offense. Wade had nothing to do with it. And the offense is TERRIBLE (worse than the defense).
Flozell on the team---run game is awesome. Flozell off the team, run game is crap. he was let go due to his false starts, have we reduced our penalties at all by doing this? Didn't think so. How has the pass protection been since his release? Oh yeah..there has been none. Who did we bring in that replaced his role as line anchor? Noone...Our ENTIRE offensive problems start and end at the O-Line. If your line cant block crap your play calling means crap. If the line cant make a whole for the runningback...then the back cant run. Who decides who is on the team...The head coach and the owner. If the Offense goes 3 and out a lot (which it has been most of the year) The defense is on the field a lot. Offensively our problem is the Offensive Line...and it greatly deteriorated AFTER the release of Flozel. Defense, our defensive backfield has been questionble for years, and wade Has NEVER seriously addressed this. Oh wait...he let Roy Williams go.
lol, wow, that is more hair brained that me thinking that Garrett intentionally sabotaged the team so wade would get fired and he'd get the job. Our running game has sucked, their line has sucked, but everyone on offense even witten has been making stupid I don't care mistakes. Flozell I don't understand a hard count adams, wouldn't have made the line any better...
When you go from 4.8 yards a carry to 3.6 and the only thing that changed in the run game is Flozell, what does that tell you? I am not going to say the rest of the offense is not making dumb mistakes...But every great team starts with the offensive line....And the demise of the line is the catalyst for every errant throw, every run stuff, every sack, ...the only thing in the offense it doesnt affect is the receivers catching the ball when it hits them in the hands.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/40#post_3328330
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328322
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328320
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328084
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328022
Wade getting fired was what I have been hoping for since week 4.
They will keep most everyone....you can't blame garrett for the offense complete...Wade and Jones made the decision to let certain linemen go....that is the problem with the offense...and the players not catching the ball...which garrett cant control either.
lol, I"m sorry cutting Flozell is a TERRIBLE argument for this debachle. And hell yes you can blame Garrett. He's the head coach of the offense. Wade had nothing to do with it. And the offense is TERRIBLE (worse than the defense).
Flozell on the team---run game is awesome. Flozell off the team, run game is crap. he was let go due to his false starts, have we reduced our penalties at all by doing this? Didn't think so. How has the pass protection been since his release? Oh yeah..there has been none. Who did we bring in that replaced his role as line anchor? Noone...Our ENTIRE offensive problems start and end at the O-Line. If your line cant block crap your play calling means crap. If the line cant make a whole for the runningback...then the back cant run. Who decides who is on the team...The head coach and the owner. If the Offense goes 3 and out a lot (which it has been most of the year) The defense is on the field a lot. Offensively our problem is the Offensive Line...and it greatly deteriorated AFTER the release of Flozel. Defense, our defensive backfield has been questionble for years, and wade Has NEVER seriously addressed this. Oh wait...he let Roy Williams go.
lol, wow, that is more hair brained that me thinking that Garrett intentionally sabotaged the team so wade would get fired and he'd get the job. Our running game has sucked, their line has sucked, but everyone on offense even witten has been making stupid I don't care mistakes. Flozell I don't understand a hard count adams, wouldn't have made the line any better...
When you go from 4.8 yards a carry to 3.6 and the only thing that changed in the run game is Flozell, what does that tell you? I am not going to say the rest of the offense is not making dumb mistakes...But every great team starts with the offensive line....And the demise of the line is the catalyst for every errant throw, every run stuff, every sack, ...the only thing in the offense it doesnt affect is the receivers catching the ball when it hits them in the hands.
Hey I"m not saying the O line ins't important or to blame. However, Flozell got beat out of his job by the end of last season... Adams in his prime is not adams last year...
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/40#post_3328334
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/40#post_3328330
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328322
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328320
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328084
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328022
Wade getting fired was what I have been hoping for since week 4.
They will keep most everyone....you can't blame garrett for the offense complete...Wade and Jones made the decision to let certain linemen go....that is the problem with the offense...and the players not catching the ball...which garrett cant control either.
lol, I"m sorry cutting Flozell is a TERRIBLE argument for this debachle. And hell yes you can blame Garrett. He's the head coach of the offense. Wade had nothing to do with it. And the offense is TERRIBLE (worse than the defense).
Flozell on the team---run game is awesome. Flozell off the team, run game is crap. he was let go due to his false starts, have we reduced our penalties at all by doing this? Didn't think so. How has the pass protection been since his release? Oh yeah..there has been none. Who did we bring in that replaced his role as line anchor? Noone...Our ENTIRE offensive problems start and end at the O-Line. If your line cant block crap your play calling means crap. If the line cant make a whole for the runningback...then the back cant run. Who decides who is on the team...The head coach and the owner. If the Offense goes 3 and out a lot (which it has been most of the year) The defense is on the field a lot. Offensively our problem is the Offensive Line...and it greatly deteriorated AFTER the release of Flozel. Defense, our defensive backfield has been questionble for years, and wade Has NEVER seriously addressed this. Oh wait...he let Roy Williams go.
lol, wow, that is more hair brained that me thinking that Garrett intentionally sabotaged the team so wade would get fired and he'd get the job. Our running game has sucked, their line has sucked, but everyone on offense even witten has been making stupid I don't care mistakes. Flozell I don't understand a hard count adams, wouldn't have made the line any better...
When you go from 4.8 yards a carry to 3.6 and the only thing that changed in the run game is Flozell, what does that tell you? I am not going to say the rest of the offense is not making dumb mistakes...But every great team starts with the offensive line....And the demise of the line is the catalyst for every errant throw, every run stuff, every sack, ...the only thing in the offense it doesnt affect is the receivers catching the ball when it hits them in the hands.
Hey I"m not saying the O line ins't important or to blame. However, Flozell got beat out of his job by the end of last season... Adams in his prime is not adams last year...
True, but adams last year is better than the line we have now in his position...That is my point. Wade made the decision to let him go...dumb move...even an adams not in his prime is better than 85% of the lineman in the league...The steelers know this first hand.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/40#post_3328336
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328320
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328084
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/20#post_3328022
Wade getting fired was what I have been hoping for since week 4.
They will keep most everyone....you can't blame garrett for the offense complete...Wade and Jones made the decision to let certain linemen go....that is the problem with the offense...and the players not catching the ball...which garrett cant control either.
lol, I"m sorry cutting Flozell is a TERRIBLE argument for this debachle. And hell yes you can blame Garrett. He's the head coach of the offense. Wade had nothing to do with it. And the offense is TERRIBLE (worse than the defense).
Flozell on the team---run game is awesome. Flozell off the team, run game is crap. he was let go due to his false starts, have we reduced our penalties at all by doing this? Didn't think so. How has the pass protection been since his release? Oh yeah..there has been none. Who did we bring in that replaced his role as line anchor? Noone...Our ENTIRE offensive problems start and end at the O-Line. If your line cant block crap your play calling means crap. If the line cant make a whole for the runningback...then the back cant run. Who decides who is on the team...The head coach and the owner. If the Offense goes 3 and out a lot (which it has been most of the year) The defense is on the field a lot. Offensively our problem is the Offensive Line...and it greatly deteriorated AFTER the release of Flozel. Defense, our defensive backfield has been questionble for years, and wade Has NEVER seriously addressed this. Oh wait...he let Roy Williams go.
lol, wow, that is more hair brained that me thinking that Garrett intentionally sabotaged the team so wade would get fired and he'd get the job. Our running game has sucked, their line has sucked, but everyone on offense even witten has been making stupid I don't care mistakes. Flozell I don't understand a hard count adams, wouldn't have made the line any better...
When you go from 4.8 yards a carry to 3.6 and the only thing that changed in the run game is Flozell, what does that tell you? I am not going to say the rest of the offense is not making dumb mistakes...But every great team starts with the offensive line....And the demise of the line is the catalyst for every errant throw, every run stuff, every sack, ...the only thing in the offense it doesnt affect is the receivers catching the ball when it hits them in the hands.
Hey I"m not saying the O line ins't important or to blame. However, Flozell got beat out of his job by the end of last season... Adams in his prime is not adams last year...
True, but adams last year is better than the line we have now in his position...That is my point. Wade made the decision to let him go...dumb move...even an adams not in his prime is better than 85% of the lineman in the league...The steelers know this first hand.
Wade has nothing to do with the offense, that was Daddy jones and his suckling son Jason Garrett.
 
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jstdv8

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Flozell got blown up badly in the playoffs last year. As the other poster said, flozel in his prime is not equal to now.
The other part of the YPcarry deficiency certainly must have a bit to do with romo being out.
If they don't have a serious passing game they are going to stack 8 in the box every play.
 

deejeff442

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jerry was on the radio today.radio guy asked if he had talked to any coaches.jerry wouldn't name any but he said a couple have called him looking for the head coach job.also jason has started to make the players clean up after themselves in the locker room.guess he thinks the players are now in the military and need to keep their barracks in order and this will win games?
 

u mike

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what would you do if they beat the G men on sunday.

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/40#post_3328397
jerry was on the radio today.radio guy asked if he had talked to any coaches.jerry wouldn't name any but he said a couple have called him looking for the head coach job.also jason has started to make the players clean up after themselves in the locker room.guess he thinks the players are now in the military and need to keep their barracks in order and this will win games?
 

deejeff442

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hell i could care less either way.i am a bandwagon fan for the cowboys.hard to admit but i grew up in buffalo and the bills and sabres will always be my teams.what can ya do
 
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jstdv8

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since the cowboys are out of it Im rooting for them the rest of the year while playing NFC teams :)
Being a Vikings fan that does not come easy to me LOL
Friggin Herschal Walker
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/381734/wade-phillip-s-is-gone-and-they-re-putting-in-jason-garrett/40#post_3328359
Flozell got blown up badly in the playoffs last year. As the other poster said, flozel in his prime is not equal to now.
The other part of the YPcarry deficiency certainly must have a bit to do with romo being out.
If they don't have a serious passing game they are going to stack 8 in the box every play.
Week 2 we averaged 1.4 YPC. Was Romo playing or not?
Week six we averaged under 3 YPC...yep Romo was still playing.
Barber has been miserable this year...one game he carried the ball 17 times and only averaged about 3 ypc. I think that was week 5...The only sving grace in our run game was felix jones average 7.1 YPC...But only got those yards because of some great moves...not superior line blocking..
Tashard Choice...last year averaged 5.5 yard per carry coming off the bench sparatically last year. This year...a pathetic 2.7 yards per carry.
Romo has been out only 3 games (if you count half the giants game), IT IS NOT because other teams aren't worried about the pass and stacking 9 in the box. Against Jacksonville, Kitna was 34 of 49 passes for 379 yards....That is over 60% completion percentage....The run game was still averaging 2 YPC.
Every team lives and dies by their Offensive Line....and our is dead.
 
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