Want to start a 10g nanooo...

I have one of those typical 10g sitting around that I used to have some newts in years ago... and I want to turn it into a little marine tank. I would like to have an anemone along with two of my clownfish that i'm going to take out of my 150g...
What lighting/filtering/modifications would I do to it? I'm new with small tanks, I heard they're very difficult to keep stable- but I'm up for the challenge.
 

halostalker

Member
well i set up a 10 gallon long long long ago in my case as a experiment=P, if u look threw my things i did a big no no. well i had only a 15wat on mine and it sucked u need something better so the first thing u should try is to get the best light u can for it. i had only a HOB filter and it worked. but it all depends on what u wana keep be prepared to do weekly 4 gallon water changes. =P
P.S. does anyone here document whats the cheapest way to set up a 10 gallon from scratch to be able to have solft coral??? i would really be interested in the price=P
 

peef

Active Member
First off an anemone won't do well in a 10g tank. It will out grow it quickly. Also they need an established tank that has been up and running for at least like 4 months. There are alot of different lighting options you can go with depending on what you are planning on keeping. If you are just planning on some zoas, mushrooms, LPS corals of the like you can just get a decent power compact light. If you feel froggy and want to try SPS you should get a clip on back MH, 70w would be more than sufficient. With a 10g all you would need is a Hang on Back filter like a penguin. A HOB (hang on back) Refugiem wouldn't hurt either.
 
thanks for the help. i've got t-5 over my 150g... would that be enough lighting for an anemone? i was thinking of moving it in their once it out grew my 10g.
andddd, like halostalker said... is there any thread about starting a 10g from scratch? that'd be nice.
 

halostalker

Member
yea Reef is right most anemone will out grow a tank and also having good water in a 10 gallon is a bit iffy, but it u want to move it eventually to a 150 then set up a 10 as a QT a couple of monthz before u get the anemone u want.
I've seen some people have small bubble tip anemones in a 10gallon i think u can get away with that but only if u have good lighting and water chemistry
 
I was thinking about that. I don't really care if they don't host it... I just wanted a smaller tank with coral. haha. And my sixline has been picking on my maroon clown so I want to get him out. I was thinking of taking water from one of my bigger tanks.
I'm just worried about the type of lighting to get for it. Lighting always confuses me... and it's not that complex. I don't have any idea why.
 
hi! I have a 10 gallon reef that is doing very well. its been set up for about 3 or 4 months. i put an emporor 400 filter on it that i had lying around. i tried converting the hob filter to a refugium but found that it gathered to much detritus and my water was dirty all the time. i switched back to the charcoal/foam inserts for mechanical filtration and now it is super clear. i am thinking of getting a fluval canister filter, but what i have works good for now.
i have a 75 watt metal halide sunpod 20" fixture on it. i love it. the corals look beatiful under the halides, and the sparkle from the reflector is very nice. it also has blue and white leds for night time. much better than the coralife pc 50/50 i had before. everything i put in it grows like mad. i got it on the eeeee-baaay for a good price reconditioned.
i have two yellowtail damsels in there. i feed them once a week. actually they get the leftover mysis that i feed to the palythoas with a turkey baster. i only feed once a week because the small tank will dirty up pretty fast if you feed every other day. i have tons of "pods" and other critters that the fish pick at between feedings. i plan on getting a pair on bangaii cardinals and moving the damsels to another tank i have.
maintenance is daily top offs with r/o with a 30% water change (store bought saltwater) and filter cleaning every other weekend. i also clean the salt off the light fixture glass at that time. i use a tube to siphon detritus off the top off the sand layer and live rock. i blow off the corals with the turkey baster during the process as well.
the small tanks are finicky but worth it! hope this helps and good luck!
 
That did help! THANK YOU!
How much $$ do you spend on buying the saltwater etc. per week? I'm in college so it is something I have to think about =) Haha.
I had another question and I forget what it was already...
do you have a picture?
 

debbie

Active Member
My 10 gal is 4 years old now, I have nothing fancy or special. Never had the tank crash from day one, find it easy to take care of. Keep up with the top ups, I do a water change once a week doing a 1 gal change. I see in another post above here they do 4 gal, that is quite drastic but hey what ever works for ya.
30 watts PC lighting
Aqua Clear mini filter
Live sand
12 lbs live rock
2 clownfish
1 coral banded (small variety) shrimp
1 very large turbo snail
1 algae eating cowrie
Green striped mushrooms
Red mushrooms
Brown/blue mushrooms
Green hairy mushrooms
Green button polyps
Green star polyp frag
2 toadstool leathers
2 bubble tip anemones
I would not recommend the anemone. The lighting is not the issue with me, I started out with one and now I have 2 they say that is a happy anemone. I do spot feed them, but would rather have other things in there besides them. So when they start to roam out they will come. Right now they are attached and I don't want to risk crashing my tank trying to get them out.
My clownfish females loves the one, the other clownfish loves the hairy mushrooms and the toadstool.
The above corals do not require expensive lighting that is why I have them except for the anemone.
I would recommend a toadstool though, they are just so neat but can get very large which in that case I will have to learn to frag it or trade it in for something smaller.
The tank is alot of fun, I love it and watch it every night. I would only put 2 fish in there at the most unless it is very tiny gobies that are compatible.
My newest addition is a 3/4 watt moon light, a bit disappointed with it. It only shines in the center of the tank and I was hoping it would light up the whole tank but still very neat to see.
Good luck, do lots of reading here. This forum is one of the best I think and you will get all the help and answers you need.
 
I have been reading. And I'm glad I posted this thread because it has helped a lot.
I have been reading about doing it and thinking about it for awhile... I'm finally going to do it because I want to get my maroon clown out of my other tank. I don't want to get rid of him because he was my first swf and I love him. Haha. I can't have him being picked on anymore.
I just need to read more into the corals. The whole spot feeding confuses me. I mean, I just stick a turkey baster down there and squirt at it?
I know I sound ridiculous. Haha.
 
first off, dont get discouraged! you can definately have a nice 10 gallon reef without spending tons of cash! all you have to do is enjoy the hobby and its easy. AND invest in GOOD lights in the beginning (hey if the tank was free...)! realize you can cram it full of corals, but not fish. fish are really dirty in 10 gallons of water. your maroon should be okay. coralkeeper has a nano with a maroon that hosts his xenia. he even has video of this in his diary.
I have three 5-gallon containers that i got at a bass pro shop. i keep r/o and saltwater on hand (in the closet) i have a bucket i use to transport water from the 5's to the tank. the beauty of 10 gallon tanks is that water is affordable. about 50 cents a gallon. i dont have to buy an expensive r/o unit for the house. plus i like to go to the fish store every week (or two weeks is fine) to catch deals on the small corals. the dangerous part is that, yes, i am in the fish store, and must maintain the budget! beer or coral? haha. coral.
for feeding, yeah, i get some water out of the tank with the baster and put it in a cup with a quarter of a cube of frozen mysis. let it melt, then suck up some and squirt it gently at the individual polyps. they will each close on the shrimp and eat it. you will find the balance of water and food. i have noticed that my xenia also benefit without direct feedings, they get tiny particles floating in the water and close up. all the buried sand snails come up and cruise the tank at dinnertime too.
if you have good lights, most corals do fine without feeding them. they eat light you could say. like plants do. im already getting purple coralline algea on old base rock peices. without adding pricey supplements.
the cost of stocking it... i am not able to drop tons of cash on expensive corals all the time. i have been building slowly. i am perfectly satisfied with "beginner" corals like mushrooms, palys, green star polyps, xenia, featherduster, ricordia, to start with. plus they grow and reproduce quickly under metal halide. i usually pick up pieces for 10 or 20 bucks. it gives me time to enjoy each peice i get to add and really think about what i want in there. theres not much space in a 10. i plan to get some frogspawn, and a small torch head next. really want to put a fire/blood shrimp in there too. when stuff starts to outgrow you can frag peices for store credit.
sorry for the long post...
i need to get a full tank shot...
will post for ya.
good lights. topoffs. water changes (to replenish nutrients in the water, not just make it cleaner). and your reef will thrive!
 
I'm so happy you guys replied! This helps out SO much. Now I can just refer to this thread when I'm doing things =)
I can't wait to see a picture of your tank...
I'm on a budget too because school books are more important, but I like moving really slow and "enjoying" what I have first. So it works.
It is funny you say coral or beer. Haha, I had that conversation the other day. I brought home a new fish for my 150g and someone was like "I thought college students used their extra $$ for beer?" Not meeee
 
Now I just have to concentrate on getting lights because I have everything else.... I think I sent you a PM about yours, btw?
 

debbie

Active Member
You will have alot of fun with your 10 gal. Just a few things though, do not add an ameone if you plan on one till your tank is at least 6 month old. They need a mature tank and any longtime person on this board will tell you the same.
As for feeding the anemone, I use a turkey baster like mentioned but when I am feeding it krill I use a scewer and that works great.
Maroon clown, my favorite. I placed mine in a new home as she was making a sand storm out of the tank everyday. Now I am plagued with the same thing with my black and white saddleback clownfish.
But my favorite of the clowns is the maroon. I would replace the ones I have with another maroon in a heart beat, but a gold stripe one this time.
Good luck,have fun and take it slow.
 
No worries, I don't jump into anything. I'm a perfectionist ;]
I don't think I am going to add an anemone, like you said. I think I'm going to stick with some other corals instead. My maroon will just have to live without!
I am going to use sand and water and some lr from my other tanks- how long should it take to cycle? I want to get him in there quick because things are getting bad with him and the sixline... but I don't want to stick him in there too early.
 
I thought a 10g was too big for one type of sea horse and too small for another? I thought someone told me that.
I'm waiting a little bit before I get addicting to ponies. I want to make sure I have a lot of experience and know what I'm doing! haha.
I will get there, though.
 

rykna

Active Member
Originally Posted by beadebaserrrr
http:///forum/post/2463644
I thought a 10g was too big for one type of sea horse and too small for another? I thought someone told me that.
I'm waiting a little bit before I get addicting to ponies. I want to make sure I have a lot of experience and know what I'm doing! haha.
I will get there, though.
Dwarf Seahorses need 15 gallons or less, preferably 10 or under. It's the seahorses that need larger tanks. I prefer keeping the ponies. I think they are tougher than their larger cousins. The only difference is that ponies need live baby brine shrimp. The Brine Shrimp hatchery is easy to set up, but the process can sound daunting.
And I certainly hear ya when you say "I want to get more experience before I try seahorses".I haven't read through your entire thread. How much salt water experience do you have?
 
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