water change water ?
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socal57che
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Originally Posted by u mike
http:///forum/post/3212728
what is the best way to heat the water in my plastic trash can for water changes. I am concerned about the heater touching the plastic. Don't want a fire.Also what size heater,I try to keep about 40 gals on hand since I have to run to lfs for my water right now.
There is enough water to keep the heater from overheating the plastic. I've never heard of a heater causing an issue when used in a trash can. It's a common practice. You can tie the cord to a wooden dowel and place it across the top of the trash can to suspend the heater in the center of the can if you want to remove all doubt.
http:///forum/post/3212728
what is the best way to heat the water in my plastic trash can for water changes. I am concerned about the heater touching the plastic. Don't want a fire.Also what size heater,I try to keep about 40 gals on hand since I have to run to lfs for my water right now.
There is enough water to keep the heater from overheating the plastic. I've never heard of a heater causing an issue when used in a trash can. It's a common practice. You can tie the cord to a wooden dowel and place it across the top of the trash can to suspend the heater in the center of the can if you want to remove all doubt.
jimmyr1rider
Member
As a fireman Ill answer that- Even if the heater is resting on the inside of the container(in water) you dont have to worry about it- it would have to heat all the water in there to the temp that it takes for the plastic to ignite--- thats impossible the water would all evaporate ages before anything happened- and no heater is that powerful to evaporate 40 gallons of water then to melt and finally ignite the plastic. The heat is absorbed by the water in the container.
jimmyr1rider
Member
sorry bout the double post but wanted to add- it could actually happen if your the type to not do a water change or set eyes on that container for months lol <- just a little stupid humor. Any way good luck and hello to all- my official first response take care....Jimmy
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by JimmyR1Rider
http:///forum/post/3213070
sorry bout the double post but wanted to add- it could actually happen if your the type to not do a water change or set eyes on that container for months lol <- just a little stupid humor. Any way good luck and hello to all- my official first response take care....Jimmy
Thank you for the response! An answer from a professional is greatly appreciated.
http:///forum/post/3213070
sorry bout the double post but wanted to add- it could actually happen if your the type to not do a water change or set eyes on that container for months lol <- just a little stupid humor. Any way good luck and hello to all- my official first response take care....Jimmy
Thank you for the response! An answer from a professional is greatly appreciated.
u mike
Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3213362
Thank you for the response! An answer from a professional is greatly appreciated.
yes thank you.
my better half is very leary of me leaving things pluged in for a long period of time. thanks again.
http:///forum/post/3213362
Thank you for the response! An answer from a professional is greatly appreciated.
yes thank you.
my better half is very leary of me leaving things pluged in for a long period of time. thanks again.
jimmyr1rider
Member
No problem at all guys that is what these boards are here for- I dont know a super amount about the hobby--but I do know what will and what wont burn your house down lol. Anytime I can be of assistance I like to be good luck mike. Tell the other half not to worry nothing will happen- maybe if you spill water into electrical outlets or on a power strip is a chance if your breaker doesnt trip but the heat generation thing?--- not an issue
aquaknight
Active Member
Maybe take the other half to a few local stores and show them that about half of the heaters out there, have plastic clips they use for mounting always
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jstdv8
Guest
would it be a bad idea to just boil some of the water?
I don't usually heat my water at all, i jsut areate it for a couple days and it will get to room temp while areating and then i put it in. Ive never had a temp swing of more than 2 degrees with a 10% water change in a 90 gallon.
I don't usually heat my water at all, i jsut areate it for a couple days and it will get to room temp while areating and then i put it in. Ive never had a temp swing of more than 2 degrees with a 10% water change in a 90 gallon.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Jstdv8
http:///forum/post/3214038
would it be a bad idea to just boil some of the water?
I don't usually heat my water at all, i jsut areate it for a couple days and it will get to room temp while areating and then i put it in. Ive never had a temp swing of more than 2 degrees with a 10% water change in a 90 gallon.
Warming the water helps the salt desolve, it really has little to do with the temp for the tank. Your the only one to mention to put something in to move the water about...good call because that helps allot in getting the salt desolved as well.
http:///forum/post/3214038
would it be a bad idea to just boil some of the water?
I don't usually heat my water at all, i jsut areate it for a couple days and it will get to room temp while areating and then i put it in. Ive never had a temp swing of more than 2 degrees with a 10% water change in a 90 gallon.
Warming the water helps the salt desolve, it really has little to do with the temp for the tank. Your the only one to mention to put something in to move the water about...good call because that helps allot in getting the salt desolved as well.
firefightremtp
Member
Mike,
Are you keeping your water heated all the time? I am pretty new to this hobby as well, but I don't think the amount of energy used to heat 40 gallons and keep it heated is worth it. I used an old aquarium heater (150W) in a five gallon bucket to heat the water just before I do the WC. I takes about six or seven min to bring each 5g bucket up to about 75degrees.
Just my opinion..
~grace
Are you keeping your water heated all the time? I am pretty new to this hobby as well, but I don't think the amount of energy used to heat 40 gallons and keep it heated is worth it. I used an old aquarium heater (150W) in a five gallon bucket to heat the water just before I do the WC. I takes about six or seven min to bring each 5g bucket up to about 75degrees.
Just my opinion..
~grace
firefightremtp
Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3214075
I agree. Storing the water cold will lower the chance of trace elements precipitating. Many saltmixes have supersaturated trace elements and having a heater in the all the time can lower them. Just warm it up right before you use it for large water changes.
WOW, i have to take this moment..... (if yall dont mind)
in all of my NOOB-ness, I actually said something that someone agreed with, especially Bang. I'm sort of proud, I might actually be getting somewhere.
haha
~grace
http:///forum/post/3214075
I agree. Storing the water cold will lower the chance of trace elements precipitating. Many saltmixes have supersaturated trace elements and having a heater in the all the time can lower them. Just warm it up right before you use it for large water changes.
WOW, i have to take this moment..... (if yall dont mind)
in all of my NOOB-ness, I actually said something that someone agreed with, especially Bang. I'm sort of proud, I might actually be getting somewhere.
haha
~grace