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bpn25

Member
So I just bought a 90 gal tall tank off of craigslist and am wondering what to do next. I kind of know what to do because I have been researching saltwater for a long time, so I just want to make sure if my plans are correct.
The tank is a 90 gal tall with 1/2" glass. It isn't drilled but has an overflow box inside the tank that drains into an approximatly 30gal sump. The sump has a lot of bio balls maybe 3-5 gal worth, bio sponges, ceramic media, and this bag that I think is some type of refugium mud. However there is no refugium currently set up. The return pump is a magdrive 3. The sump has three segments; the tall segment of bioballs, an empty middle segment that just has random media in it (I found a light down in the stand so I think this was a refugium at one point in time), and the last section contains the pump.
It must be understood that this tank is a FOWLR tank that has been set up for 5+ years. There is no protien skimmer, not a very deep sandbed, and horrible flow through the return lines. Most of the parts are custom made becasue I don't think premade stuff was available back then. On top of that they had a huge bioload: hippo tang, yellow tang, 6-7" wrasse, 3" yellow tail damsel, the biggest domino damsel I have ever seen 5" maybe, hermit crab the size of a softball, mandarin goby, and some others. I did not get the fish. Only the tank, stand, equiptment, 35lbs of live rock, 30lbs live sand, and one yellow tail damsel (not bad for $100). I had to barter for the lr/ls becasue the guy who bought the fish was trying to take it so I didn't get very much but it is a start. Regardless, I was shocked that this tank was able to support such a bioload without a protien skimmer. Yet, all the fish seemed very happy and healthy.
So here is my plan:
1. put all sand and rock in tank and the 30gal of water from the original tank I still have and a heater (by the way, I never knew lr was so sharp)
2. buy an oversided protein skimmer (I want to keep a lot of fish) and ro/di system and test kit
NEED SUGGESTIONS ON BRANDS
3. Fill up tank all the way and hook up the filtration (probably done on mon. or tues. bc im going out of town). NEED HELP DESIGNING FILTRATION
4. add lots more base rock and regular aquarium sand that will be mixed in with ls
5. Wait for the bacteria to bet on the rock and sand.
6. Wait some more/test/test again
7. Once tank is fully cycled slowly add cc and fish and enjoy the hobby.
Im planning on FOWLR right now, but hopefully reef later on. Here is my current livestock plans:
volitan lionfish
yellow tang
flame hawkfish
Large Tomato clown
What kind of cc do i need to get?
Does the lionfish eat snails?
Is there anything I am missing?
I need suggestions on protien skimmer, ro/di (e bay maybe?), test kits, and filtration method PLEASE.
Keep in mind I am a noob so I'd appreciate your help, thanks.
 

username.

Member
sounds like a great deal, and a good start i think there are a few stickys in the diy furom for sumps and fuges, pics would get alot quiker response to
i use api test kits they seem to do fine for me as for ro unit im not much help as i stiil by mine from lfs well good luck with the new tank
 

robertmathern

Active Member
+1 on usernames (how original lol)comment. Check the diy fourm and read up on the different skimmers. Dont skimp on the skimmer. Your fish selection looks good. If the smaller fish dissapear blame the lion lol. good luck
 

bpn25

Member
thanks guys
I've been reading the threads under the beginner section. I think I read almost all of them.
Any other opinions?
What brand of skimmer, pump, etc. should I avoid?
 

oceansidefish

Active Member
Sounds like you are off to a good start. Here is what I would do.
1. Scrap the sand. If there was a big bioload I would personally start over. Get new sand and probably some more rock
2. Scrap bioballs and all the other crap in there. Get refugium mud for the second chamber and some LR rubble
3. No yellow tang in a 90T he will outgrow that tank.
4. Get rid of the damsel. You will thank me later.
You don't need an oversized protein skimmer. One rated for 100-140 gallons is just fine. There are lots of good brands. I would also add a UV light to the plumbing while you are still in parts. Salifert makes good test kits... And get a pair of clowns.
 

bpn25

Member
why would I have to scrap the sand?
wouldn't having a bigger bioload put more bactieria in the sand and seed the base rock I'm planning on getting faster?
 

robertmathern

Active Member
Yes it would have bactera but it is probably full of nitrates that will get stired up. It would be more of a hassle than it is worth. Live sand is fairly cheap. Also as far as skimmers go stay away from seaclones and prizm skimmers. I would look for the coral life they are decient for the price but they are certinly not the best.
 

mcbdz

Active Member

Welcome to SWF.
A really good thing to learn to use is the search button in the blue tool bar above. It is a lifesaver. You can search each thing as you need the info and start you a diary thread with pictures as you set up and you'll get lots of help with each step. Remeber to go slowly.
Good Luck

Pattie
 
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