What am I doing wrong?!

sid67ii

New Member
This is a long post, but I thought it would be helpful to share the full amount of info i have up front.
I cannot figure it out, somehow my tank is a flush farm.

I started my tank back around thanksgiving. I gave it plenty of time to cycle - about six weeks, then i bought some tank janitors. About a week or two later, I bought two engineer gobies. One of them promptly disappeared, leading me to believe it had been crushed under an unstable rock it had dug under. The other engineer goby is still there hard at work ruining my aqua scape.
Next, I bought a peppermint shrimp, which disappeared. I bought another peppermint shrimp, it is still there.
I next bought a scarlet hawk and a percula clown. The scarlet hawk is still there doing wonderfully, the percula clown disappeared that night. Due to my cats' suddenly taking a great interest in the back of the tank area for the next couple of days, i concluded it had jumped to its death.
A couple of weeks ago, I took the plunge again and bought a leopard wrasse. I made the mistake of not researching this fish, and did not realize the shape they usually arrive in (this was a new arrival to the lfs). The wrasse was, in retrospect, very unhealthy and not suitable for a relatively unestablished tank like mine. As a result it hid under the sand for about 36 hours, then came out and floated around dying for about a day before finally giving up the ghost.
The same day I bought another percula - it's doing great.
So, I thought the first couple were flukes - the goby and the clown, and the wrasse was simply me being an idiot. Therefore, I spent time and researched my next purchase - a lawnmower blenny. The internet said they were very hardy, and were good algae eaters. These were two good qualities in a fish, so I bought one. It hid in my lr for a couple of days, but then today, what do I find, but it's dead!

What am I doing so wrong? I know, I KNOW that I need a quarantine tank, I just haven't had the resources to establish one yet, and I'm about to move. However, this isn't a case of "i poisoned my tank by putting a sick fish in it". Are these all just flukes? Will quarantining help that much? Should I be drip acclimating? Is that that big a deal?
Two other disasters - I bought a cucumber from the lfs. When I got it home I noticed a wound on its side and it began leaking white stuff in the water, next day, it eviscerated itself. i got it out of the tank in time.
I bought a sea lettuce - disappeared. Bought a second one, doing just fine.
I test my water every week, I've built the bio load really slowly, so the nitrate, nitrite, ammonia and phosphates always reads nil. The Ph, calcium, and alkalinity read fine, too. The salinity is fine.
This cannot be a common occurrence, I must be doing something horribly wrong, but I just don't understand what it is.
I inspected the body of the wrasse and the blenny, neither have wounds that would make me suspect a mantis shrimp or something like that, and neither showed signs of disease.
I have a lot of coral frags, they are all doing really well, just not the fish.
 

ecooper

Member
You have the solution (probably) right there in your posting: QT. Fish come with all sorts of nasty little problems. Some times, you really need to medicate them (for whatever the reason) and you shouldn't do that in your main tank. I lost two schools of bangaii cardinals in my QT and none of them had any visable problems. My guess is some sort of internal parasite, but didn't realize it until too late.
The last two fish to go through my QT were my yellow stripe maroon pair. Both looked good, but developed (I think) fin rot. I medicated them and they got better nearly immediately. They spent another two weeks in the QT and then went into a biocube. 2 months and they're fine. They would have probably died in the main tank.
These fish go through a great ordeal and often need to be treated. With the fish you're getting, you could use a 10gallon QT. Put a good filter on it and do the recommended water changes (which are nearly every day if you are medicating - but remember, 10% of a 10 gallon is only a gallon, so not bad) and things are much better.
I hope that helps.
 

sid67ii

New Member
Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2502746
QT. Fish come with all sorts of nasty little problems. Some times, you really need to medicate them (for whatever the reason) and you shouldn't do that in your main tank.
These fish go through a great ordeal and often need to be treated. With the fish you're getting, you could use a 10gallon QT. Put a good filter on it and do the recommended water changes (which are nearly every day if you are medicating - but remember, 10% of a 10 gallon is only a gallon, so not bad) and things are much better.
I hope that helps.
Thank you for the advice. You medicate all the fish when you get them, or do you watch for signs of distress then medicate them?
 

ecooper

Member
No, I watch for signs. But, be careful. Some of the signs are obvious: ich, fin and tail rot, etc. Some of them are harder, such as when fish have no obvious signs but may be breathing hard or swimming funny.
Does anyone just medicate all of their fish in QT right off the bat?
 

sh00tist

Member
Are you acclimating these fish properly? I didnt see it mentioned anywhere in your post. Float their bags for 10 or 15 minutes then begin dripping using airline or using a turkey baster add a couple of ounces every 15 minutes for a couple of hours?
 

mie

Active Member
Sorry for your losse's, inexperience can be a pain in the butt. From what your post said i take it you are not drip acclimating your new arrivals, drip acclimating is VERY important, Most fish need to be drip acclimated for at least two to three hours, i am surprised your shrimp is still alive. Quarenting fish is important but i highly doubt that is the cause of your problems. Can you please post your water peramiters, nitrate, ammonia, salinity, ph, etc..
 
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