what can be used with these.
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saltn00b
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grub, you are going about it wrong unfortunately. take a minute and research Closed Loop systems. "CLS"
this is seperate from the sump / return pump system which actually should be around 1200 GPH for a 125g tank, and not much more.
the CLS is basically a simple out, and push back in with a seperate much larger in-line pump - take look at "Sequence-Reeflo Dart" an amazing pump, or its smaller brothers... the return is often used in conjunction with something like an Ocean Motions wave maker. but that is your choice, the returns lines are often split with many different styles and either comes back into the tank through bulkheads or over the top.
CLS is often executed at the very least drain to the CLS pump being drilled in the back wall, but the whole thing CAN be done without drilling a tank at all via the use of a Durso Stand with no air hole, keeping a full syphon.
the reasons behind using a CLS are many.
take a look at my thread to see some reasons (first post) and some work i have been doing personally on my 150.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/247342/saltn00bs-multi-phase-upgrade-diary
this is seperate from the sump / return pump system which actually should be around 1200 GPH for a 125g tank, and not much more.
the CLS is basically a simple out, and push back in with a seperate much larger in-line pump - take look at "Sequence-Reeflo Dart" an amazing pump, or its smaller brothers... the return is often used in conjunction with something like an Ocean Motions wave maker. but that is your choice, the returns lines are often split with many different styles and either comes back into the tank through bulkheads or over the top.
CLS is often executed at the very least drain to the CLS pump being drilled in the back wall, but the whole thing CAN be done without drilling a tank at all via the use of a Durso Stand with no air hole, keeping a full syphon.
the reasons behind using a CLS are many.
take a look at my thread to see some reasons (first post) and some work i have been doing personally on my 150.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/247342/saltn00bs-multi-phase-upgrade-diary
grubsnaek
Active Member
funny my return pump is a Mag12 rated at 1200gph and is throttled back about 4/5 of the way with a ball valve. cant figure it out. i have a dual overflow box (externaly)rated at 1200gph. i have made stockman standpipes for it and its still throttled back.
my tank is already up and running. so drilling is not an option, also i think its tempered glass. i do want to remove all my powerheads and do something like a closed loop. but i dont know where to start with is.
i know a pump for this would have to be gravity fed. not just sucking in one end and blowing out the other. i dont know what to do.
i am some what satisfied with the sump now. but knowing that i should not have that ball valve on there never minded throttled back 4/5. it kills me. i cant get the full potential of my pump. so i was kicking around ideas and just wondered if these could be done with something.
how did you know that i was thinking in a different direction?!?!?
my tank is already up and running. so drilling is not an option, also i think its tempered glass. i do want to remove all my powerheads and do something like a closed loop. but i dont know where to start with is.
i know a pump for this would have to be gravity fed. not just sucking in one end and blowing out the other. i dont know what to do.
i am some what satisfied with the sump now. but knowing that i should not have that ball valve on there never minded throttled back 4/5. it kills me. i cant get the full potential of my pump. so i was kicking around ideas and just wondered if these could be done with something.
how did you know that i was thinking in a different direction?!?!?
saltn00b
Active Member
"all on a whim" is how.
lol
i dont remember exactly but something up there tipped me off.
if you take some pics of your sump and your overflows, and post them in the DIY section with the throttling back problem, people can see what you have and chime in. or just post them here, but you might not get as good results.
A CLS can still be done, i have seen people do them without drilling at all. you just create a durso stand pulling from the tank with no syphon break (so its closed, no bubbles) and then plumb it directly to a CLS pump, pushing it back up and over the top of the tank. im about to employ a 'return manifold' which is basically a ring of PVC around the top to keep the pressure close to equal at all the exits.
lol
i dont remember exactly but something up there tipped me off.
if you take some pics of your sump and your overflows, and post them in the DIY section with the throttling back problem, people can see what you have and chime in. or just post them here, but you might not get as good results.
A CLS can still be done, i have seen people do them without drilling at all. you just create a durso stand pulling from the tank with no syphon break (so its closed, no bubbles) and then plumb it directly to a CLS pump, pushing it back up and over the top of the tank. im about to employ a 'return manifold' which is basically a ring of PVC around the top to keep the pressure close to equal at all the exits.