What changed?

darthtang aw

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100121/D9DC3FF00.html
Obama and others were talking about legislation that would attract broad support.
"I would advise that we try to move quickly to coalesce around those elements of the package that people agree on," Obama said in an interview with ABC News.
"We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people. We know that we have to have some form of cost containment because if we don't then our budgets are going to blow up. And we know that small businesses are going to need help," he said.
In a bid for GOP support, participants suggested other elements that could be added. These included allowing insurance companies to sell policies across state lines, according to Rep. Timothy Walz, D-Minn.
Echoing Obama was House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., who said a slimmer bill would be a "reasonable alternative" that could appeal to the public even with continued Republican opposition.
"I think that we ought to focus on that which ... the public can support and will be positive in terms of making health care more affordable and obtainable," he said.
So NOW you want to make a bill the people can support? I thought that was what you guys were doing in the first place from the way the head dems were talking.
 

jackri

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Wow starting to cave already -- I think they're trying to stop a lot of firings come November.. or just scared now that they are not fillibuster proof anymore.
The government should just run everything -- they're so effecient at it.
 

srfisher17

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"We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people. We know that we have to have some form of cost containment because if we don't then our budgets are going to blow up. And we know that small businesses are going to need help," he said.
I completely disagree with this basic premise. We do not know that insurance companies take advantage of people.
 

srfisher17

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"We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people..........."
This quote from Obama, above really defines the difference between The President and me. IMO, it also says much about a giant difference between liberals and conservatives. I do not know that insurance companies are taking advantage of people Again IMO, neither does the President. Of course, there are cases of abuse, there is in any business; but making this broad assumption is just playing to his audience---those folks who think making a profit on health insurance is, somehow, immoral. BTW, compare profit margins of big health insurance companies to other businesses and you'll see why there has never been a mad rush to buy their stock.
 

reefraff

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I am not so sure they are giving up on it yet. Are they going to change their attitude because they got slapped down or just their tactics? I've always said the Democrats let their egos get the best of them once they get in power and this was no different. We will see if they really try to change course now or if they will just try to convince us they have
 

ironeagle2006

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No it is called they LOST IN THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF MASS. When a Republican can win to take over the Late Ted Kennedy seat a Seat that has been a Kennedy's for 50 YEARS when 3 weeks ago he was down by 30% in the polls. Then they see the polls in their home states that show them LOSING REELECTION for how they are running this nation they are going OH CRAP WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE REPUBLICANS.
Right now the Democraps are Crapping more than my fish do in their tank.
 

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3214243
I am not so sure they are giving up on it yet. Are they going to change their attitude because they got slapped down or just their tactics? I've always said the Democrats let their egos get the best of them once they get in power and this was no different. We will see if they really try to change course now or if they will just try to convince us they have
They will simply adjust their tactics. They know the whole ball game changes in 2010; moderate Dems ( an oxymoron) are already fleeing like rats on a sinking ship and even Pelosi said she didn't have the votes to ram thru the Senate version. I'll bet that the next year gives us something so outrageous that it ends up in the Supreme Court. Obama still doesn't get it; he actually tried to blame Bush for the Dems loss in Mass, to a very Conservative Republican no less.
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An interesting side note: While health care seemed to be the big issue in Mass, Brown's internal polling said Obama's treatment of terrorists lost the most votes for the Dems. This is a huge issue that the mainstream press ignores, it will surface big-time in the next election. I know how the Prez hates to change his mind, but I expect him to move the trials of the 9/11 mastermind (won't try to spell it) soon.
 

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
http:///forum/post/3214250
No it is called they LOST IN THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF MASS. When a Republican can win to take over the Late Ted Kennedy seat a Seat that has been a Kennedy's for 50 YEARS when 3 weeks ago he was down by 30% in the polls. Then they see the polls in their home states that show them LOSING REELECTION for how they are running this nation they are going OH CRAP WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE REPUBLICANS.
Right now the Democraps are Crapping more than my fish do in their tank.
Time has a way of balancing things . In 1969, Kennedy's seat was safe, but the seat next to him was very dangerous, as Mary Jo sadly discovered.
 
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