What do you do? [before putting hands in tank]
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reefkprz
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Originally Posted by GeriDoc
Gloves, gloves, gloves!!! Your tank needs protection from whatever might be on your hands, and you need protection from whatever might be in the tank (lionfish stings, marine tuberculosis, scratches, etc).
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
Gloves, gloves, gloves!!! Your tank needs protection from whatever might be on your hands, and you need protection from whatever might be in the tank (lionfish stings, marine tuberculosis, scratches, etc).
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
mcbdz
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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
Thanks reef. Now I'm afraid of my tank.
I'm one of those people that tend to have whatever symptoms people suggest.LOL
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
Thanks reef. Now I'm afraid of my tank.
I'm one of those people that tend to have whatever symptoms people suggest.LOL
snakeblitz33
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Yeah, if you deal with a lot of corals, I recommend wearing latex gloves that are not powdered.
I, however, do not wear gloves. It's one of those things "do as I say, not as I do."
If you have a cut on your hand or a lesion of any sort, use the other hand or wait until it heals. Or you can always get a fellow reefkeeper to do it.
I, however, do not wear gloves. It's one of those things "do as I say, not as I do."
If you have a cut on your hand or a lesion of any sort, use the other hand or wait until it heals. Or you can always get a fellow reefkeeper to do it.
howardj
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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
I actually have a few cuts on my hand... and I put both hands in the tank..
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
I actually have a few cuts on my hand... and I put both hands in the tank..
petjunkie
Active Member
I wouldn't worry about it, I have paper cuts on my hands all the time (work at the post office) and have my hands in the tank, worst thing to happen is my frogspawn's sting really hurts on a wound. I just had a nasty accident and smashed my nail into my finger, bled all over the place and still did my water change the next day, if I get sick at least I get out of work for a few days.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
placing your hands in your tank right after washing wiht antibacterial soap is a bad idea.
corals live in a bacterial environment, in fact corals host many bacteria on their surface in their slime coats (think of corals as living petri dishes) not to mention the bacteriological balance we call the nitrogen cycle, that we hobbyests try to maintain in our tanks. dropping antibacterial anything in our tanks can lead to disasterous results. honestly your tank would be better off if you had raw ammonia on your hands than if you had antibacterial soap.... no kidding raw ammonia is highly volatile and most of it would offgass before you ever reached your tank antibacterial soap lingers in a film then purges into your tank due to the solubility traits of water that air does not posess.
That is what I was thinking as well. Just rinse your hands thoroughly with water and dry with paper towels. I put my hands into the tank all of the time.
placing your hands in your tank right after washing wiht antibacterial soap is a bad idea.
corals live in a bacterial environment, in fact corals host many bacteria on their surface in their slime coats (think of corals as living petri dishes) not to mention the bacteriological balance we call the nitrogen cycle, that we hobbyests try to maintain in our tanks. dropping antibacterial anything in our tanks can lead to disasterous results. honestly your tank would be better off if you had raw ammonia on your hands than if you had antibacterial soap.... no kidding raw ammonia is highly volatile and most of it would offgass before you ever reached your tank antibacterial soap lingers in a film then purges into your tank due to the solubility traits of water that air does not posess.
That is what I was thinking as well. Just rinse your hands thoroughly with water and dry with paper towels. I put my hands into the tank all of the time.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by Buckeye88
I remove my skin first
Not helping
I remove my skin first
Not helping
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by HowardJ
thanks, sep
Anytime
Have we answered your questions?
thanks, sep
Anytime
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
What site did you copy that from? I am not picking on you, just wondering what the facts are behind this. Are they talking about the ocean or aquariums? I am guessing the ocean. I have had cuts on my hands and put them into my tanks many times without thinking of the cut. It burns like heck! I have had no vomiting or other illness from it.
Vibrio vulnificus (V. vulnificus can cause disease in those who have an open wound that is exposed to seawater. Among healthy people, ingestion of V. vulnificus can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. In immunocompromised persons, particularly those with chronic liver disease, V. vulnificus can infect the bloodstream, causing a severe and life-threatening illness characterized by fever and chills, decreased blood pressure (septic shock), and blistering skin lesions. V. vulnificus bloodstream infections are fatal about 50% of the time.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gram negative bacteria), It causes urinary tract infections, respiratory system infections, dermatitis, soft tissue infections, bacteremia, bone and joint infections, gastrointestinal infections and a variety of systemic infection.
both found in warm seawater and growing on the surface of our corals..... yum
What site did you copy that from? I am not picking on you, just wondering what the facts are behind this. Are they talking about the ocean or aquariums? I am guessing the ocean. I have had cuts on my hands and put them into my tanks many times without thinking of the cut. It burns like heck! I have had no vomiting or other illness from it.
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75bownut
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sometimes gloves (shoulder length) sometimes not depends what im doin and for how long, but I always make sure my hands are clean, Im like a surgeon when it comes to my tank.
reefkprz
Active Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
What site did you copy that from? I am not picking on you, just wondering what the facts are behind this. Are they talking about the ocean or aquariums? I am guessing the ocean. I have had cuts on my hands and put them into my tanks many times without thinking of the cut. It burns like heck! I have had no vomiting or other illness from it.
does it really matter? the corals come from the ocean and go into our tanks, the vibrio and other bacteria arent going to leave because its a home system. I actually first heard of vibrio when watching a video of eric borneman fragging, then I did some research on it to see what it was, there are countless other bacterias too, I'm not saying your going to die if you reach in your tank with a scratch, I'm just raising awarness that there are many things to consider, I dont always wear gloves and as a carpenter I often have cuts on my hands, I have yet to become sick from it, but that doesnt change the fact that it is very well possible.
I have also read mention of it in books on corals and propagation set ups and aquaculture. calfo has discussed, it borneman has discussed it, and many others. if you think the bacteria is going to be totally different from ocean to tank do a little research on it you may be quite suprised to find there are usually about 10,000 different strains of bacteria on one individual coral. most wouldnt be a threat to a healthy person but some are quite opportunistic and given the proper circumstances could be trouble.
What site did you copy that from? I am not picking on you, just wondering what the facts are behind this. Are they talking about the ocean or aquariums? I am guessing the ocean. I have had cuts on my hands and put them into my tanks many times without thinking of the cut. It burns like heck! I have had no vomiting or other illness from it.
does it really matter? the corals come from the ocean and go into our tanks, the vibrio and other bacteria arent going to leave because its a home system. I actually first heard of vibrio when watching a video of eric borneman fragging, then I did some research on it to see what it was, there are countless other bacterias too, I'm not saying your going to die if you reach in your tank with a scratch, I'm just raising awarness that there are many things to consider, I dont always wear gloves and as a carpenter I often have cuts on my hands, I have yet to become sick from it, but that doesnt change the fact that it is very well possible.
I have also read mention of it in books on corals and propagation set ups and aquaculture. calfo has discussed, it borneman has discussed it, and many others. if you think the bacteria is going to be totally different from ocean to tank do a little research on it you may be quite suprised to find there are usually about 10,000 different strains of bacteria on one individual coral. most wouldnt be a threat to a healthy person but some are quite opportunistic and given the proper circumstances could be trouble.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefkprZ
does it really matter? the corals come from the ocean and go into our tanks, the vibrio and other bacteria arent going to leave because its a home system. I actually first heard of vibrio when watching a video of eric borneman fragging, then I did some research on it to see what it was, there are countless other bacterias too, I'm not saying your going to die if you reach in your tank with a scratch, I'm just raising awarness that there are many things to consider, I dont always wear gloves and as a carpenter I often have cuts on my hands, I have yet to become sick from it, but that doesnt change the fact that it is very well possible.
I have also read mention of it in books on corals and propagation set ups and aquaculture. calfo has discussed, it borneman has discussed it, and many others. if you think the bacteria is going to be totally different from ocean to tank do a little research on it you may be quite suprised to find there are usually about 10,000 different strains of bacteria on one individual coral. most wouldnt be a threat to a healthy person but some are quite opportunistic and given the proper circumstances could be trouble.
You may or may not get it, just like walking into a room with someone who has the flu. You may or may not get it. He is just saying that there is harmful bacteria in your tank. I have some family who are nurses and work near corpus christi, they almost don't want to get back into the water with some of the staf infections that people get while in the water. But I've practically lived in the surf and never had a problem. It all has to do with your immune system and if there is a place for the bacteria to enter.
does it really matter? the corals come from the ocean and go into our tanks, the vibrio and other bacteria arent going to leave because its a home system. I actually first heard of vibrio when watching a video of eric borneman fragging, then I did some research on it to see what it was, there are countless other bacterias too, I'm not saying your going to die if you reach in your tank with a scratch, I'm just raising awarness that there are many things to consider, I dont always wear gloves and as a carpenter I often have cuts on my hands, I have yet to become sick from it, but that doesnt change the fact that it is very well possible.
I have also read mention of it in books on corals and propagation set ups and aquaculture. calfo has discussed, it borneman has discussed it, and many others. if you think the bacteria is going to be totally different from ocean to tank do a little research on it you may be quite suprised to find there are usually about 10,000 different strains of bacteria on one individual coral. most wouldnt be a threat to a healthy person but some are quite opportunistic and given the proper circumstances could be trouble.
You may or may not get it, just like walking into a room with someone who has the flu. You may or may not get it. He is just saying that there is harmful bacteria in your tank. I have some family who are nurses and work near corpus christi, they almost don't want to get back into the water with some of the staf infections that people get while in the water. But I've practically lived in the surf and never had a problem. It all has to do with your immune system and if there is a place for the bacteria to enter.