What do you think for a 14gal

[scott&gina]

Hi,
I am thinking of a stock to put in my tank????
THinking...
Six line Wrasse
Niger Trigger
Hippo Tang
Watchman GobY AND Pilot Shrimp
Emerald Crab
Sexy Shrimp
Starfish?? not sure what kind but one of all of these items....Maybe not all at the same time though...
Would love to buy a Derasa Clam and a
Lettuce Nudibranch
I am not sure of what inverts to get?? For this type of stock. Can it work?
Any advice?

 

[easternu8908]

i could be wrong but that seems like i would be way to much bio load for a 14 gal? and that trigger and tang will out grow the 14 gal. by far

 

[mscenter58]

+1 if there is one thing that i learned in this hobby is to never but a tang in a nano and you shouldnt put the trigger in there for 2 reasons 1 never would survive in that small of a tank and 2 would maybe nip and corals and prlly eat ur inverts but the goby shrimp pair would be good then maybe another kind of goby or 2 or really any small fish would be fairly good and i would only keep maybe 3-4 fish at max

 

[easternu8908]

Originally Posted by MSCenter58
http:///forum/post/2785996
+1 if there is one thing that i learned in this hobby is to never but a tang in a nano and you shouldnt put the trigger in there for 2 reasons 1 never would survive in that small of a tank and 2 would maybe nip and corals and prlly eat ur inverts but the goby shrimp pair would be good then maybe another kind of goby or 2 or really any small fish would be fairly good and i would only keep maybe 3-4 fish at max
i agree the bio load is alot different for salt than fresh. 3-4 small fish in a 14 gallon is def. the max. hope every thing works out

 

[spanko]

Originally Posted by scott&gina
http:///forum/post/2785860
Hi,
I am thinking of a stock to put in my tank????
THinking...
Six line Wrasse
Niger Trigger
Hippo Tang
Watchman GobY AND Pilot Shrimp
Emerald Crab
Sexy Shrimp
Starfish?? not sure what kind but one of all of these items....Maybe not all at the same time though...
Would love to buy a Derasa Clam and a
Lettuce Nudibranch
I am not sure of what inverts to get?? For this type of stock. Can it work?
Any advice?

You are not serious are you?

 

[rebelprettyboy]

Troll!

 

[scott&gina]

Excuse me? What does that mean?

 

[subielover]

Originally Posted by rebelprettyboy
http:///forum/post/2786069
Troll!

+1

 

[scott&gina]

Hi Well, ya I actually decided on my own with reading these that its not a good idea. I am just doing a little at a time. I just bought a sea hare and 3 emerald crabs. My cleaning crew. I think we will buy tow or three small fish and thats it. We are more interested in the actually corals and etc... Thanks for your advice. I think we will get a watchman goby and a pilot shrimp, and maybe two small fish.. maybe a six line wrasse and something compatible. I bought the right kind of testing kit and the levels all seem to be on the ideal level. Which is good. I wantto buy a sexy shrimp and a lettuce nudibrach. Not sure if the letuce nudibrach is a good idea. I read a lot about them. But wow they look so neat. ANyway we are thinking of setting up a clownfish only tank as well. Can't wait for that one!

 

[subielover]

Actually I just read your profile so you may not know any better. Phew where to start, well let's start from scratch since that stocklist is ridiculous.
The maximum amount of fish that you want to keep in a BC 14 would be 3 fish. Clowns, gobies, some blennies, royal gramma, sixline wrasse and other very small fish are suitable. You want to add one at a time and then wait a month and add another. NO triggers, tangs, puffers, eels, lionfish, or anything else big or aggressive. Also no starfish, they will starve in a tank that small, even people with 100+ gallons can sometimes struggle keeping one alive. As for a clean-up-crew, stick with snails, a good mix of nassarius, cerith, and maybe one turbo snail would do fine. Sexy shrimp are cool but if you go with a sixline wrasse he would most likely eat it or at least injure it badly. I don't have any experience with nudibranches but pretty sure they need a much larger tank. Just remember to take it slow and don't take advice from the LFS, they are there to make money off of you, plain and simple. Ask questions here, then go buy, not the other way around.
Is your tank cycled?

 

[subielover]

You must have posted when I was typing, the sea hare should go back as well, it will not live long in your tank.

 

[rotarymagic]

A sixline will eat a sexy shrimp and definitely eye a pistol shrimp. Because a watchman goby protects the pistol shrimp, it may do battle with a sixline and get killed.. wrasses are known for teeth.
Until your tank has been running for at least 6 months don't think about a starfish, linkias require specialized feeding and you have to stay there to make sure they don't drop the scallop or whatever because they won't chase back after it like a serpent or brittlestar will. Serpents and brittles are hit and miss when it comes to fish and reef safety, but always avoid the "green death" brittle star.
A sea hare is an ammonia and toxin bomb waiting to happen.. they'll starve to death in a 14gallon REALLY quick and release lots of toxins into the water. Don't get a lettuce nudibranch either, its a toxin bomb waiting to happen.
Test your water and post up the results, also a FTS (full tank shot) would be nice so we know how your tank is setup.

 

[scott&gina]

HI
Well we decided to just have a little in the tank at a time. The damn fish store guy told me to get this sea hare and ya it did its job disappeared and we found him buried deep in a hole dead. It was disgusting and sad and we were not happy aboutthem even selling it to us. Anyway we talked to another really good fish helper at out Lfs. So here is what we have. Our Firefish goby who disappeared. Well I found her. She was on the other side of the tank in the part where you add the fresh water. It is alive healthy happy and just fine now.
We added two neon cleaner gobies. So far we have three emerald crabs. 6 hermits. One turbo snail. The fish I stated which would be three. And some zoanthids and a xenia that our LFS gave to us for free. Our PH IS 8.3. Salinity is 1.023-1.024. The tank has completely cycled .Weh ave had it for about 3 months now. The water looks crystal clear the brown algea and algea all together se ems to be gone. We are noticing alot of feather dusters on the rocks and t his little itty bitty yellow slug like thing with two little horns that pops up now and then on the glass. Andwe saw a little itty bitty sanil thing with a swirlie shaped shell on its back. We don't know. We have a potatoe bug on a rock. He just kicks it and does his thing. There are these littel red feather duster like things that live in these little white tubes. And I found some Foraminiferans, and chitons. There are other hitch hikers but its just the beginning for us. Thanks your support and comments.
We are planning on having a pilot shrimp and a wathcman goby and that will probably all.

 

[mckevinfang]

IMO you have too many emerald crabs 1 should be enough for your tank. and just to let you know some emerald crabs are vicious they may harm you fishes. make sure you keep them fed but if i were you i would return 2 of you emeralds and get more snails. you should also get a set of test kits if you dont have one already and post your full parameters. dont rush things it only leads to a CRASH

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well i hope it turns out good for you. try to post pictures of your tank!

 

[patrick8929]

well it seems like every thing we have told is was bad!!! i personally dont want you all to get discouraged. So on that note i think your bulding your knowledge pretty well. most of the time unless it is a specialty fish store (not petsmart) they dont know what they are talking about. so questions will be better answered on this site.

now for the bad

+1 on to many emerald crabs they will starve in that small of a tank
also +1 on the more snails but if you do get more snails watch the hermits because the can tend to eat the snails for the shell and then not even use the shell. ( empty shells in the sand can help with this)
+1 on the test kit make sure you are checking your parameters constantly
weekly water changes are a must to make sure you keep good water levels good.
if you get a spike do a good size water change and hopefully that will bring it down.
the fish list sounds good and the shrimp goby combo will be all you can put in. all the hitch hickers are a good thing!!

well hope i helped good luck with you tan and ++++++1111111 on the post pictures

 

[scott&gina]

Hi,
I will get the pictures up tonight. Ok I can take back the emerald crabs.
Ya we don't go to petsmart or any of that because their fish look so unhealthy and not much variety. They seem to not know what they are doing. So I will take out the crabs. The turbo has been in for a while now. The hermits don't even mess with it. We have alot of empty shells in the tank. They changed shells a couple times but that's it. Actually the halloween hermit likes to do hand-stands on the side of the tank. The only thing we noticed is one emerald likes to pick at the zoa's so were not liking that. We feed the fish mysis shrimp. It's in the freezer than we take it out run it over the sink water than we add some in the tank. The crabs are fed brine pellets. They go to town on them. But sadly we will get rid of them if they are not right in this aquarium. We don't want to harm anything and were upset on the loss of this sea hare we should of never bought. Damn salesman! We have a testing kit. I am at work so I was rushing. It tests all the important things. It is 6 test dip stick. Yes we understand we need something more efficient we will purchase one this weekend. We are not rushing our tank. I do water changes every Friday evening. We add Reef Solution every Monday. We also add a buffer solutuion in case the tank ph is to high or something like that. My boyfriend is actually more knowledgeable than me but we are learning together. We actually have had it running I say for about three months. We only bought two of the neon gobys because they were already together and they are very small. But thank you again for the comments and advice.
It might be funny for other's but we are new at this and it is the reason why we registered here and ask questions, we are learning. We get different advice from different guys that work at this huge LFS concentrating completely on all saltwater products and etc... so we figured it out that some just want to sell it to get their commission and some care and want to teach people the right way. We have one very honest guy we are sticking with he even gave us a xenia for free. Its all trial and era but we are trying very hard to understand this and do it the right way. I promise we are not rushing this. Thank you very much I appreciate your advice and take it for knowledge on this awesome hobby and in trying to get this right!

 

[scott&gina]

This is to Rotary Magic... omg your scaring me. The poor sea hare died. I wish I would I read this before, one of the employees at our LFS wouldn't of sold the sea hare to me. I honestly never went in there even wanting to buy it. I just told the guy I have a lot of green long hair algea and how do I get rid of it. He started putting in what He thought I should have in a bucket then began putting them in their plastic bags and etc.. and out the door I was with the things. Believe me I had soo...... many questions and asked so many. Ha I even called him when I got home but I am new and was so unaware. Ya it ate everything up and then it crawled into a rock pore and died. We had to take my tweezers for my eye brows to grab as much as we could out. And we did see a emerald with some of it in its hands munching away. It was horrible and we are sad and we can't seem to get it all out. Nothing has spiked yet. The nitrate and nitirite levels are 0ppm but ammonia not sure. now I am freakin' now .. i will go home check it and put the pics here also. WHAT should we do???

 

[socal57che]

Bummer. I just posted in your other thread. Also sent you a PM.
Don't forget to read up and research all your purchases beforehand. Lots of people here to help so don't be afraid to ask for it. You need to research acclimation processes as well. Lots of livestock die from improper acclimation, especially inverts.
Don't get discouraged.

 

[rotarymagic]

I'd ditch ALL the emeralds and hermit crabs at present at second thought.
Keep the turbo, get 5 astrea snails, 5 nassarius, 5 cerith snails, 1 fighting conch. That's all you need, they won't kill each other or harm corals...
make sure you're running carbon while that sea hare is decomposing, they do release toxins upon stress and death.

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2807510
I'd ditch ALL the emeralds and hermit crabs at present at second thought.
Keep the turbo, get 5 astrea snails, 5 nassarius, 5 cerith snails, 1 fighting conch. That's all you need, they won't kill each other or harm corals...
make sure you're running carbon while that sea hare is decomposing, they do release toxins upon stress and death.
Fighting conch in a 14 gal?