What does a fish only tank consist of

mgauna83

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OK- I know stupid question but really don't know i mean i don't think its just fish and nothing else or is it just that easy
 

hlcroghan

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yep......the different kind of tanks are a reef which is technically just corals and maybe a some inverts and a small fish or two........a mixed reef which is corals with lots of fish too, fowlr which is fish only with live rock (prolly the easiest depending on the fish), and a FO, a fish only which is fish and just some decorations if you want or minimal live rock ( good for a fish only tank with fish that require a lot of swimming room).
 

mgauna83

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Ok i guess i have a fowlr i have a 30 gallon tank (octagon) with some live rock about 7-10 lbs and crushed corral what kind of filtration do i need for a fowlr and do i need a skimmer, or any kind of special lighting
 

pbnj

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A protein skimmer is always a good idea, especially if you have a heavy bioload of fish. There are some here who feel it isn't necessary to have one, but everytime I clean out all the disgusting gunk from my skimmer, I can't help but think how anyone could say they aren't a necessity.
You can use any type of lighting for a FOWLR. Light serves no biological purpose....just for viewing your fish.
 

mgauna83

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Thanks everyone
are there any specific fish you can and can't put in a fowlr
my wife and I are kinda leaning towards panther groupers
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by Mgauna83
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Ok i guess i have a fowlr
i have a 30 gallon tank (octagon) with some live rock about 7-10 lbs and crushed corral what kind of filtration do i need for a fowlr
and do i need a skimmer, or any kind of special lighting
The live rock is the best filtration you can get honestly. I would add more. Rule of thumb is about 1 pound per gallon of water but for a fowlr you could just get extra mechanical filtration. For my 29 gallon rectangle, I have about 36 pounds of lr, a 60 gallon rated filter with chemipure elite, and carbon and a little on the back flter that I use as a refugium with lr rubble, some sand and some chaeto to help with the nitrates. This might give you an idea of what you want......
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by Mgauna83
http:///forum/post/3000617
Thanks everyone
are there any specific fish you can and can't put in a fowlr
my wife and I are kinda leaning towards panther groupers
whoa!! no way! they get huge and mean and will eat ANYTHING!! they look so cute when they are little though I know. Are you getting a bigger tank??
Your only hold up to a fowlr is the compatibility of the fish. For your size tank, you will want to go with docile species because you have more choices by far.....if yiou go aggressive then you will have to be very choosy about what fish you put in there.....
 

pbnj

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Originally Posted by Mgauna83
http:///forum/post/3000617
Thanks everyone
are there any specific fish you can and can't put in a fowlr
my wife and I are kinda leaning towards panther groupers
Any fish really, as long as your tank dimensions allow for it and there are no compatibility issues with other fish in the tank.
Adding a Panther Grouper will change your FOWLR to and aggressive FOWLR and limit the other types of fish you can keep. They're predators.
 

mgauna83

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ROGHAN- do you have the time to explain mechanical filtration and what it does i would greatly appreciate it
 

pbnj

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Originally Posted by Mgauna83
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ROGHAN- do you have the time to explain mechanical filtration and what it does i would greatly appreciate it
Pads, sponges, etc. Anything that will physically remove or capture detritus (waste).
 

mgauna83

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OK OK no panther groupers for now and yes i def. plan on getting a bigger tank cause since i'm new at this i figured i would go easiest then graduate to difficult over the years or months what about Clowns
 

mgauna83

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thank you everybody for your help i am going to snap a few pics of tank month and 1/2 into it dont be to harsh
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by Mgauna83
http:///forum/post/3000629
OK OK no panther groupers for now and yes i def. plan on getting a bigger tank cause since i'm new at this i figured i would go easiest then graduate to difficult over the years or months what about Clowns

They are probably the easiest fish to keep IMO. They are hardy, fun to watch, and good eaters. They can be aggressive toward their own kind so it is a good rule of thumb to keep no more a pair of one kind. Like a pair of true perculas rather that one maroon and one true perc. If you buy them at the same time, one will grow larger and become female and one will stay male. They are fine for a 20 gallon or larger although they can become larger over a long time period.
 

pbnj

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Originally Posted by Mgauna83
http:///forum/post/3000629
OK OK no panther groupers for now and yes i def. plan on getting a bigger tank cause since i'm new at this i figured i would go easiest then graduate to difficult over the years or months what about Clowns

Clowns are OK, but spend some time reading up on them in the "Clownfish & Anemones" forum section. Some can be downright aggressive killers. There are also all kinds of issues with compatibility and quantities that can be kept per tank.
 

hlcroghan

Active Member
Originally Posted by Mgauna83
http:///forum/post/3000630
thank you everybody for your help i am going to snap a few pics of tank month and 1/2 into it dont be to harsh

ask away....i am never harsh to people so feel free to email away but remember, when people tell you you are wrong, its just an attempt to help so that you don't waste any money....:) We are here for you!!!
 

pbnj

Member
Since you already have fish in there, any live rock you add will have to be already cured. If you add uncured live rock at this point, you might start another cycle.
 

jdl

Member
looks like you have 2 yellow tail damsels in there. They can be super mean fish which will limit what else you can add to the tank.
I would ditch the damsels so you can add anything you want.
with a 30 octo, did you think about a school of bangaii or pj's? That might look neat.
also, smaller isnt really easier in saltwater, just cheaper. Generally, the bigger the system you have, the easier it is to keep. This is because any fluctuations in a small tank can be deadly, while it takes a much larger fluctuation in a larger tank. And by fluctuation i mean temp changes, human errors, overfeeding, ph changes, water changes, ....
goodluck
 
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