what else can you put in a tank with sharks and sting rays???

[agoutihead]

maybe an octopus?
what else would you guys reccomend?
i dont know what kind of sharks... or what kind of rays... well probably blue spot...
but i want to have a shark tank as a third tank in the bedroom... i want a community and an aggressive on top of the shark tank
from my general understanding... once you get the right parms... shark tanks are easier to care for than a reef tank?
also.... what is the minimum size tank? 150?
obviously the longer the better correct?
what size tank do you need for black tips?

 

[michaelstern]

Originally Posted by agoutihead
maybe an octopus?
NO WAY!!!!! http://manhattanreefs.com/forum/show...hlight=OCTOPUS
what else would you guys reccomend?
TANGS GO NICELY WITH SHARKS
i dont know what kind of sharks... or what kind of rays... well probably blue spot...
but i want to have a shark tank as a third tank in the bedroom... i want a community and an aggressive on top of the shark tank
from my general understanding... once you get the right parms... shark tanks are easier to care for than a reef tank?
also.... what is the minimum size tank? 150?
I WOULD SAY 240 MIN
obviously the longer the better correct?
what size tank do you need for black tips?
WELL OVER 1000 GAL MIN

 

[agoutihead]

you can put tangs with sharks?
really?
what about puffers and triggers?
chances are i will not be getting a black tip just because if you need 1000 gallons... i dont know if i want one that big... well obviously i do but ya know
so shark tanks should be at least 300? alright good starting point.
how is the maitence on shark tangs?
alot easier than reefs im going to assume?
and as far as octopuses.... i have seen that clip... but clearly the shark or octopus i would get wouldnt be near that size... ive seen octos the size of baseballs and smaller.

 

[aquapro_1]

I have a dogfaced puffer & a Humu humu trigger. The are fine together. Puffer is quite placid. Nothing get him riled like my devil chromis. He is a nasty little guy!
As far as sharks, they better be fed regularly, they will make a tasty meal out of anything in the tank. As for housing. What shark are you getting? The smallest I have seen is 2ft. and some grew to 40ft!! and a 300g will not cut it. It is a myth if you think a black tip will not out grow his tank. They are the size they are predestined to have regardless what you put them in.
An octopus? They learn & are extremely smart. They will find a way out of the tank. Make sure you do not feed the same time every day. They will take advantage of you!!

 

[cartman101]

if you get a 150gal(5ftx2ft) then you should have no problem keeping a ray. People have done it less then 2ft.

 

[nmocean]

I have a 240 gallon shark tank, with a 2 1/2 foot Adult male brownbanded bamboo shark, and I also have an 80 gallon reef tank; I would say I put just as much time into the shark tank as I do the reef tank. So. . .no, a shark tank is not easier than a reef tank.
Puffer's do not make good shark tankmates, a lot of puffers will nip at the fins of sharks and can do considerable damage. There are a few triggers that can be considered for a shark tank, I have a blue throat trigger in my shark tank, and she never bothers the shark. She is not afraid of him either, she will dive for the same piece of food, and honestly, I think the shark would rather eat her than the food I'm trying to feed him. It's a good thing she's quick!
I think a 300 gallon would be a good tank size for the smaller aquarium sharks, like the bamboo or epaulette shark. If I had it to do over again, I would go with the 300 gallon!
I would recommend the book by Scott Michael "Aquarium Sharks and Rays" if you are seriously interested in keeping sharks. In this book he recommends a minimum tank size of 5,750 gallons for a black tip!
Good Luck -Jen

 

[mitzel]

Originally Posted by Nmocean
I have a 240 gallon shark tank, with a 2 1/2 foot Adult male brownbanded bamboo shark, and I also have an 80 gallon reef tank; I would say I put just as much time into the shark tank as I do the reef tank. So. . .no, a shark tank is not easier than a reef tank.
Puffer's do not make good shark tankmates, a lot of puffers will nip at the fins of sharks and can do considerable damage. There are a few triggers that can be considered for a shark tank, I have a blue throat trigger in my shark tank, and she never bothers the shark. She is not afraid of him either, she will dive for the same piece of food, and honestly, I think the shark would rather eat her than the food I'm trying to feed him. It's a good thing she's quick!
I think a 300 gallon would be a good tank size for the smaller aquarium sharks, like the bamboo or epaulette shark. If I had it to do over again, I would go with the 300 gallon!
I would recommend the book by Scott Michael "Aquarium Sharks and Rays" if you are seriously interested in keeping sharks. In this book he recommends a minimum tank size of 5,750 gallons for a black tip!
Good Luck -Jen

I fully agree with jen . No puffers they can get nasty with a shark that is not in motion they will pick at the fins and even the eyes. if you really go with a 300 you could easily do a bamboo shary a cortez ray and a few damsels OR even a harliquen tusk

 

[agoutihead]

well i also want to do an aggressive tank... so i will probably put the harlequin in that tank... ill probably keep just sharks and rays
can you doulbe up on sharks and rays?
or only one species per tank?

 

[tony detroit]

If you're really serious about this go and buy the book:
Aquarium Sharks and Rays
by Scott Michael

 

[mitzel]

Originally Posted by tony detroit
If you're really serious about this go and buy the book:
Aquarium Sharks and Rays
by Scott Michael

YES get the book . small investment and a ton of good info. Most people want to just jump in to shark keeping. it requiers a lot of skill and patients, as well as lots of hard work to keep them alive and happy.

 

[moraymike]

Originally Posted by tony detroit
If you're really serious about this go and buy the book:
Aquarium Sharks and Rays
by Scott Michael

Tony, always has solid advice... Listen to the man and get the book before purchasing a shark or ray. It should answer all your questions...

 

[jdragunas]

i'm planning a 300 gallon tank with 2 bamboo sharks, a california ray, and the following fish: volitan lionfish, foxface rabbitfish, hippo tang, emporer angel, and a panther grouper. After lots of research, i learned these would be great in a shark tank! Hope this helps!
I've heard to avoid triggers as well, as they're just as aggressive as puffers, and will pick on the sharks... Nmocean, it's possible you may have gotten an abnormally pleasant trigger... i'd personally avoid them, though...

 

[schulace12]

Originally Posted by Cartman101
if you get a 150gal(5ftx2ft) then you should have no problem keeping a ray. People have done it less then 2ft.

ya that is true, but then the rays wont be happy

 

[cartman101]

Originally Posted by schulace12
ya that is true, but then the rays wont be happy
Whats up with u lately??
A ray will be fine! They dont get over 2ft long and they dont get over 18in wide. (5ftx2ft) Not for a shark but definitly for a ray

 

[mitzel]

Originally Posted by schulace12
ya that is true, but then the rays wont be happy

schulace12 how many sharks and rays have you had?
I belive last week you had no idea about them .

 

[harlequin]

An 18inch wide fish in a 2 foot still isnt going to be very happy not alot of space to turn around in, but its better than something thinner. Stay away from blue spotted rays, very difficult to keep successfully with a bad track record. Its not the length that matters as much, its the open sand space on the bottom. Be thinking of a good skimmer and filtration system since rockwork will have to be a bare minimum if any at all.

 

[schulace12]

hahah are u kidden me? all i asked is about the tanks, i bet i knoe way more then u, so dont say stuff like that when u have what u are takin about.
dont make me pull a dragon ball Z on u

 

[cartman101]

try me schulace, i have been studying fish since elementry school, yes a ray will be fine. ONLY THE SMALLER ONES! (calis)

 

[cartman101]

i'm not going to argue with it ok, belive what you want, there r police who will take you a way for having this fish in this tank. I'm just telling u that people misunderstand fish and think they need to be kept in very very big tanks, just do some research and ask questions and u will know the answer.

 

[schulace12]

Originally Posted by Cartman101
try me schulace, i have been studying fish since elementry school, yes a ray will be fine. ONLY THE SMALLER ONES! (calis)

how do u " study fish"?
im not goin to argue either,all i am say in is get one that is really wide, and not as tall.