What is wrong with pink tip

slomo

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I recieved a pink tim anemone with order from swf thursday. (it was free b/c of frequent flyer) I acclimated it like it said. it took a few hours and it filled with water, it was beautiful! moved around the tank and went to the top rock near the water flow. I know they need strong light( going today to get some).It has been filled and pretty. this am it is on the bottom of the tank. its orange foot is bigger than the tenticles? they are all shriveled up! can it die this fast or is it doing something weird. I don't have an parameters yet? can i save it if so how?
 

slomo

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I netted it and brought if off the bottom closer to the light(florecent) and it has perked up? Can it die in 4days from poor light?
 

mie

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sounds similar to my first anenome experience. How old is your tank? how do you mix your saltwater? what type of water do you use tap/ro? and how is your salinity and anenomes will move on there own to find the proper lighting and flow and yes insuficent lighting will kill
 

slomo

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Fairly new, 3months. However, my parameters all all good. trates 20 i will do a water change this afternoon. I just purchased some lighs. 10,000K tube light I am concerned if they will melt the hood i have? the Manufacturer doesn't recommend Ho or VHO lights in this Eclipse unit? Now i don't know what to do?
S/G 1.24, alk 2, nitrites 0 , am 0, PH 8.4. temp 80. 45lbs lr 20lbs cc/ls.
 

petjunkie

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Sounds like it's adjusting but it may not do well because your tank is so new and you can't provide proper lighting with that setup, it needs metal halides or t5s if it does make it through acclimation. It might but you need to find it a new home with a larger mature tank with the light it needs to survive.
 

peef

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Anemones also need to like you said earlier fill up and deflate for new water. They also deflate to use the john. So keep an eye on it, it might puff back up with in a few hours.
 

slomo

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it is puffed up again. I picked it up with the net and it's still in it. but i don't want it to get in a situation away from the current light again.
 

mie

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They need a mature tank, and i think the lighting you have would not cause immediate death so i would say lighting is ok for now, but how are you mixing your water ? this would cause immediate death, i.e poor water (tap) or improperly mixxing your salt
 

xdave

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Don't you have some clownfish? Clowns who aren't from the Atlantic or Caribbean, because they recognize them, will appear to host pink tips but the anemone will eventually kill them.
 

slomo

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really!? Why this particular one? How long? if that is the case then i won't worry about the lights!
 

xdave

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It can take anywhere from 1 week to close to a year, but it will happen It depends on the size of the anemone compared to the size of the fish. I would go farther than not worrying about the lights, and remove the anemone immediately.
These anemones (condi family) are indigenous to the to the Alantic and Caribbean. Clownfish who are also from that area will recognize and avoid them, those who are not don't.
Did the store guy ask you what fish you had? I would never buy from someone that didn't ask me that when purchasing a pink tip.
 

slomo

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Well it was not the local fish store, it closed down because of a ***** that moved in. I got it from this site, free for being a good customer. It was one of several choices.... i thought is was the least amount of trouble
I was willing to spend hundreds on a free item
I think there is something wrong with me, so does my husband
It seems to be doing ok, it is sitting on the bottom wrapped around a shaving brush plant. I fed it some shrimp the other night. It eagerly took it. The clown stays far away.. it must sense it, i hope.Thanks for your input.
 

sk8shorty01

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Originally Posted by xDave
It can take anywhere from 1 week to close to a year, but it will happen It depends on the size of the anemone compared to the size of the fish. I would go farther than not worrying about the lights, and remove the anemone immediately.
These anemones (condi family) are indigenous to the to the Alantic and Caribbean. Clownfish who are also from that area will recognize and avoid them, those who are not don't.
Did the store guy ask you what fish you had? I would never buy from someone that didn't ask me that when purchasing a pink tip.

Are you sure this is entirely accurate? This site states that this anemone is known to host some clowns, but says nothing of them killing the clowns eventually. I have never heard of this before so I was just wondering where you got your information as I would like to research this more. Thanks. Oh and here is what SWF.com says:
"The Haitian Anemone, a.k.a. Pink Tip Haitian, is a beautiful Anemone with flowing white tentacles that are often tipped in pink. The base of these Anemones is usually bright orange in color. These Anemones are hardy and like a strong flow and strong light. They can be spot fed once every couple of weeks. They have been known to accept different species of Clownfish. Anemones will not tolerate poor water quality."
 

xdave

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For over 7 years I was the marine specialist at a warehouse the serviced 5 states. All my knowlege on the subject comes from the curator and workers from our local zoo's aquarium, those wackey kids from Sea World, and a few hundred store owners.
I was also the aquarium department manager for a chain store and I can say there is nothing false in the stament on this site.
 

nigerbang

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Originally Posted by xDave
For over 7 years I was the marine specialist at a warehouse the serviced 5 states. All my knowlege on the subject comes from the curator and workers from our local zoo's aquarium, those wackey kids from Sea World, and a few hundred store owners.
I was also the aquarium department manager for a chain store and I can say there is nothing false in the stament on this site.

I have a Condi that would let a Clown host..
But think of it this way...Condi's are Atlantic, There are no clowns in the Atlantic Ocean...Some might host..Some might be food...Not a chance I would be willing to take again..
 

sk8shorty01

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Originally Posted by xDave
For over 7 years I was the marine specialist at a warehouse the serviced 5 states. All my knowlege on the subject comes from the curator and workers from our local zoo's aquarium, those wackey kids from Sea World, and a few hundred store owners.
I was also the aquarium department manager for a chain store and I can say there is nothing false in the stament on this site.

Ok sounds good. I was just wondering because I had never heard of that before. I just wanted to know a little more, thats all. Thanks, and I promise I was not trying to question your "accuracy" as my first post sort of sounds, I was just trying to figure out a little more about the subject because I had no idea this was the case with these anemones... Thanks!
 

slomo

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it doesn't matter any more. I think it died last eve. anyway its gone! I won't be getting any more
 

farslayer

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Didn't you also have a problem with a linkia in a 36G tank established for 2 months? You're really rushing your tank, and this only leads to disaster. The #1 thing this hobby teaches is patience, you were no where near ready for a star and certainly not ready for an anemone. Slow down, get you feet wet (so to speak), then work on the harder stuff.
 

saltn00b

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pink tips have a notoriously bad track record. they tend to never 'lock in' their foot and just roll into a crevice and desintegrate. i made the same mistake with one of my first orders from this site and got one for free as the present. its a bad choice, they dont survive and if they do, they can kill fish. plus, why have an anenome in reef tank?
 

xdave

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A store can't really say this will happen because it's totally unproven. Scientist have narrowed the workings of the symbiotic relationship between clownfish and anemone down to a couple of theories. Why that relationship would fail in a particular anemones case is impossible to figure out without knowing why works in every other case.
BTW, where I mention earlier that a clownfish from the Caribbean will recognize a pink tip I should have said would, since there are none. A French Angel will avoid a pink tip but may be killed trying to eat an anemone that only lives in the Pacific.
To sum up with a general guidline, avoid mixing species that don't coexist in nature. The results are too unpredictable.
 
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