what to feed my mandarin goby
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srfisher17
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Originally Posted by staylor21
http:///forum/post/2688347
Yeah hi. Just want to know if I can just buy copepods and throw them in my new tank for a mandarin goby. My 55 gal tank is about a month old now and have 50/50 dry and live rock. Oh and i do not have a refugium or sump...
I assume you're talking about one of the mandarins (Synchiropus sp). If so, I hope you haven't bought him yet. Your tank is not nearly old enough, or big enough to house one; IMO. They only thrive (with that rare exception) in very mature tanks with enough LR to provide a constant food supply. They'll eat introduced pods, but I just don't think its possible to keep up with their needs that way. I know the online dealers give their blessing to a smaller tank; but the foplks who really these fish don't.
http:///forum/post/2688347
Yeah hi. Just want to know if I can just buy copepods and throw them in my new tank for a mandarin goby. My 55 gal tank is about a month old now and have 50/50 dry and live rock. Oh and i do not have a refugium or sump...
I assume you're talking about one of the mandarins (Synchiropus sp). If so, I hope you haven't bought him yet. Your tank is not nearly old enough, or big enough to house one; IMO. They only thrive (with that rare exception) in very mature tanks with enough LR to provide a constant food supply. They'll eat introduced pods, but I just don't think its possible to keep up with their needs that way. I know the online dealers give their blessing to a smaller tank; but the foplks who really these fish don't.
staylor21
Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2688374
I assume you're talking about one of the mandarins (Synchiropus sp). If so, I hope you haven't bought him yet. Your tank is not nearly old enough, or big enough to house one; IMO. They only thrive (with that rare exception) in very mature tanks with enough LR to provide a constant food supply. They'll eat introduced pods, but I just don't think its possible to keep up with their needs that way. I know the online dealers give their blessing to a smaller tank; but the foplks who really these fish don't.
thanks for the heads up and yes i have not bought him yet but was because he is a beauty. I was also wondering if he can eat mysis shrimp because i was told that they will eat that as well as opposed to copepods.......oh and did you say that in your opinion it would not be a good idea to buy some copepods and throw them in my tank???
http:///forum/post/2688374
I assume you're talking about one of the mandarins (Synchiropus sp). If so, I hope you haven't bought him yet. Your tank is not nearly old enough, or big enough to house one; IMO. They only thrive (with that rare exception) in very mature tanks with enough LR to provide a constant food supply. They'll eat introduced pods, but I just don't think its possible to keep up with their needs that way. I know the online dealers give their blessing to a smaller tank; but the foplks who really these fish don't.
thanks for the heads up and yes i have not bought him yet but was because he is a beauty. I was also wondering if he can eat mysis shrimp because i was told that they will eat that as well as opposed to copepods.......oh and did you say that in your opinion it would not be a good idea to buy some copepods and throw them in my tank???
johnnyd
Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2688374
I assume you're talking about one of the mandarins (Synchiropus sp). If so, I hope you haven't bought him yet. Your tank is not nearly old enough, or big enough to house one; IMO. They only thrive (with that rare exception) in very mature tanks with enough LR to provide a constant food supply. They'll eat introduced pods, but I just don't think its possible to keep up with their needs that way. I know the online dealers give their blessing to a smaller tank; but the foplks who really these fish don't.
55g is plenty big. read my thread its right below this one. if you play your cards right you can keep one in a 10g.
http:///forum/post/2688374
I assume you're talking about one of the mandarins (Synchiropus sp). If so, I hope you haven't bought him yet. Your tank is not nearly old enough, or big enough to house one; IMO. They only thrive (with that rare exception) in very mature tanks with enough LR to provide a constant food supply. They'll eat introduced pods, but I just don't think its possible to keep up with their needs that way. I know the online dealers give their blessing to a smaller tank; but the foplks who really these fish don't.
55g is plenty big. read my thread its right below this one. if you play your cards right you can keep one in a 10g.
spiderwoman
Active Member
The key thing is his tank is NOT mature at all, also he doesn't have a fuge to keep the colony. Month old dry rock is not LR so that isn't mature either. The guy who kept 1 in a 10g is not a newbie to the hobby and by no means in not something to keep as a standard in this hobby.
Sure you can buy one if you want and buy all the copepods you can, it's your tank.
Sure you can buy one if you want and buy all the copepods you can, it's your tank.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by SpiderWoman
http:///forum/post/2688496
The key thing is his tank is NOT mature at all, also he doesn't have a fuge to keep the colony. Month old dry rock is not LR so that isn't mature either. The guy who kept 1 in a 10g is not a newbie to the hobby and by no means in not something to keep as a standard in this hobby.
Sure you can buy one if you want and buy all the copepods you can, it's your tank.
I agree, and maybe 1 in 20 will eat mysiss. Good luck, these are very difficult fish. Bob Fenner says it may take as much as a 130 gal full of very mature LR to sustain one of these. By all means, if you keep him, feed live pods whenever you can.
http:///forum/post/2688496
The key thing is his tank is NOT mature at all, also he doesn't have a fuge to keep the colony. Month old dry rock is not LR so that isn't mature either. The guy who kept 1 in a 10g is not a newbie to the hobby and by no means in not something to keep as a standard in this hobby.
Sure you can buy one if you want and buy all the copepods you can, it's your tank.
johnnyd
Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2688637
I agree, and maybe 1 in 20 will eat mysiss. Good luck, these are very difficult fish. Bob Fenner says it may take as much as a 130 gal full of very mature LR to sustain one of these. By all means, if you keep him, feed live pods whenever you can.
not true, dont need a 130 gal tank. read my article about it. 10g nano will be fine if you no what your doing. def not a begginer fish though.
http:///forum/post/2688637
not true, dont need a 130 gal tank. read my article about it. 10g nano will be fine if you no what your doing. def not a begginer fish though.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by johnnyd
http:///forum/post/2689058
not true, dont need a 130 gal tank. read my article about it. 10g nano will be fine if you no what your doing. def not a begginer fish though.
My opinion is just that, an opinion. But, the words of Bob Fenner is an actual statement; its right out of Bob Fenner's "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". I consider him to be one of THE leading authorities on SW fishkeeping. Are there exceptions? Sure. There are exceptions to everything in this hobby; unfortunately, the exceptions often become "the rule", when that is the answer someone is looking for
Your article is well done; and you do admit it is controversial. But, within the scope of this forum; there are lots of folks who want to try a mandarin who shouldn't. And, IMO, there will be many more failures than successes. I once kept a moorish idol for over 9 years; but I would never suggest to members of this forum, that they should try it. (I admit my success with the idol was much more luck than skill; I just got the right fish.)
http:///forum/post/2689058
not true, dont need a 130 gal tank. read my article about it. 10g nano will be fine if you no what your doing. def not a begginer fish though.
My opinion is just that, an opinion. But, the words of Bob Fenner is an actual statement; its right out of Bob Fenner's "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". I consider him to be one of THE leading authorities on SW fishkeeping. Are there exceptions? Sure. There are exceptions to everything in this hobby; unfortunately, the exceptions often become "the rule", when that is the answer someone is looking for
Your article is well done; and you do admit it is controversial. But, within the scope of this forum; there are lots of folks who want to try a mandarin who shouldn't. And, IMO, there will be many more failures than successes. I once kept a moorish idol for over 9 years; but I would never suggest to members of this forum, that they should try it. (I admit my success with the idol was much more luck than skill; I just got the right fish.)
spiderwoman
Active Member
Originally Posted by johnnyd
http:///forum/post/2689058
not true, dont need a 130 gal tank. read my article about it. 10g nano will be fine if you no what your doing. def not a begginer fish though.
You forgot to put the BOLDED in your original response. You only said *if you play your cards right you can keep one in a 10g* which for a newbie in this hobby doesn't say anything. Begin experienced in SW makes a huge difference. Still 10gallons is an exception, not a norm.
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2689224
My opinion is just that, an opinion. But, the words of Bob Fenner is an actual statement; its right out of Bob Fenner's "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". I consider him to be one of THE leading authorities on SW fishkeeping. Are there exceptions? Sure. There are exceptions to everything in this hobby; unfortunately, the exceptions often become "the rule", when that is the answer someone is looking for
http:///forum/post/2689224
My opinion is just that, an opinion. But, the words of Bob Fenner is an actual statement; its right out of Bob Fenner's "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". I consider him to be one of THE leading authorities on SW fishkeeping. Are there exceptions? Sure. There are exceptions to everything in this hobby; unfortunately, the exceptions often become "the rule", when that is the answer someone is looking for
ginnboy
Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2689224
My opinion is just that, an opinion. But, the words of Bob Fenner is an actual statement; its right out of Bob Fenner's "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". I consider him to be one of THE leading authorities on SW fishkeeping. Are there exceptions? Sure. There are exceptions to everything in this hobby; unfortunately, the exceptions often become "the rule", when that is the answer someone is looking for
Your article is well done; and you do admit it is controversial. But, within the scope of this forum; there are lots of folks who want to try a mandarin who shouldn't. And, IMO, there will be many more failures than successes. I once kept a moorish idol for over 9 years; but I would never suggest to members of this forum, that they should try it. (I admit my success with the idol was much more luck than skill; I just got the right fish.)
I agree 100% ,I loss two when I first started before doing alot of reading
http:///forum/post/2689224
My opinion is just that, an opinion. But, the words of Bob Fenner is an actual statement; its right out of Bob Fenner's "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". I consider him to be one of THE leading authorities on SW fishkeeping. Are there exceptions? Sure. There are exceptions to everything in this hobby; unfortunately, the exceptions often become "the rule", when that is the answer someone is looking for
Your article is well done; and you do admit it is controversial. But, within the scope of this forum; there are lots of folks who want to try a mandarin who shouldn't. And, IMO, there will be many more failures than successes. I once kept a moorish idol for over 9 years; but I would never suggest to members of this forum, that they should try it. (I admit my success with the idol was much more luck than skill; I just got the right fish.)
I agree 100% ,I loss two when I first started before doing alot of reading
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by Cajun439
http:///forum/post/2690106
I know they are great looking. I am only about 2 years in and i dont want to mess with them.
I have a 75 and i have killed 2. LFS tired telling they would eat other stuff too.
Good luck if you buy it.
Yeah, the lfs has to make a living. Unless a hobbiest is very familiar with a possible new fish; I think bouncing his potential new fish off this forum is a great idea. Nobody is right all the time, and (IMO) there are no real rules; but you sure can get a good feel for what to expect. ALSO IMO; it seems lots of folks (not talking about this particular thread) just seem to want ANYONE to back up a decision they've already made. But, every hobbiest can do whatever they want without being put on a guilt trip by me.
http:///forum/post/2690106
I know they are great looking. I am only about 2 years in and i dont want to mess with them.
I have a 75 and i have killed 2. LFS tired telling they would eat other stuff too.
Good luck if you buy it.
Yeah, the lfs has to make a living. Unless a hobbiest is very familiar with a possible new fish; I think bouncing his potential new fish off this forum is a great idea. Nobody is right all the time, and (IMO) there are no real rules; but you sure can get a good feel for what to expect. ALSO IMO; it seems lots of folks (not talking about this particular thread) just seem to want ANYONE to back up a decision they've already made. But, every hobbiest can do whatever they want without being put on a guilt trip by me.