What to feed
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cartman101
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i would the feed the puffer shrimp, same with the anemoneas, and the rest of the fish flakes. What size tank do u have?
cartman101
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and u should of researched before buying your fish
1journeyman
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Well, personally I never feed flakes to my fish. I feed a variety of frozen (mysis, krill, bloodworms, brine (for snacks), and veg. mixes). Nothing really against flakes, except that I figure frozen is more nutritious.
Now, as for your picks ... always research before you buy. Anemones are among some of the hardest species to take care of. Add that to the fact that they are very over-harvested and you get a recipe for bad things in your tank. Anemones need well estrablished tanks and great lighting. They can also be very mobile... which can lead to massive chemical warfare between them, each other, and other corals.
How big does the puffer get? He could end up eating the clown and anything else he can swallow. That is what fish do... swallow anything they can...
The tang needs an established tank to feed. They are grazers.. they eat algae all the time (as it is low in nutrients and hard to digest they need to constantly be feeding).
I read on your other post about the advice your local fish store gave you. They lied about a cocktail shrimp making your water cloudy. I used 3 for my 210 gallon cycle. I also used uncured live rock. Never did my water get cloudy. I would seriously consider buying a couple of good books, getting lots of advice from around here, and never believing another word your fish store tells you. Damsels should never be used for cycling! If you still have the damsels, now would be a good time to take them back to the store before your new fish arrive.
Good luck! Hope your new arrivals do well!
Now, as for your picks ... always research before you buy. Anemones are among some of the hardest species to take care of. Add that to the fact that they are very over-harvested and you get a recipe for bad things in your tank. Anemones need well estrablished tanks and great lighting. They can also be very mobile... which can lead to massive chemical warfare between them, each other, and other corals.
How big does the puffer get? He could end up eating the clown and anything else he can swallow. That is what fish do... swallow anything they can...
The tang needs an established tank to feed. They are grazers.. they eat algae all the time (as it is low in nutrients and hard to digest they need to constantly be feeding).
I read on your other post about the advice your local fish store gave you. They lied about a cocktail shrimp making your water cloudy. I used 3 for my 210 gallon cycle. I also used uncured live rock. Never did my water get cloudy. I would seriously consider buying a couple of good books, getting lots of advice from around here, and never believing another word your fish store tells you. Damsels should never be used for cycling! If you still have the damsels, now would be a good time to take them back to the store before your new fish arrive.
Good luck! Hope your new arrivals do well!
hot883
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Hopefully you plan on putting ALL of these new arrivals in QT before you add to main tank, and you cannot add all of these at once to your main tank, your system WILL crash. Just trying help mind ya, not critisizing. Is yor QT set up? Is your maintank fully cycled? How long? Any other inhabitants in there now?
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by popo559
Question about the damsels. I have been told to keep them by some people. Others say get rid of them. To keep or not to keep is the question.
Damsels grow quick, produce a lot of waste, are highly territorial and aggressive. They work in a tank set up with that in mind.
Question about the damsels. I have been told to keep them by some people. Others say get rid of them. To keep or not to keep is the question.
Damsels grow quick, produce a lot of waste, are highly territorial and aggressive. They work in a tank set up with that in mind.
danedodger
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IMO, fish benefit from variety in foods because what one food is lacking in nutrients will probably be made up by another. Maybe true, maybe not but my fish and the fish at our store seem to do well with the variety. For any algae grazers put a strip of seaweed sheets (they come in different types so you can rotate) for them to nibble on, as much as they'll eat in a day or it gets gross. For bigger carnivore types you can feed small chunks of different seafoods like krill, mussels, etc. For a basic diet I thaw out different frozen mixtures, seperating meat stuff from veggie type stuff, add in brine shrimp, mysis, and whatever else is readily accepted by most critters, mix in some flake, different pellets crushed up, then spoon them back into the little compartments from the frozen foods, refreeze them, then thaw and feed each day. You could also freeze your mixtures into fairly thin sheets in ziploc baggies then break pieces off to feed, tiny ice cube trays, or anything else that will let you easily get smaller pieces to thaw and feed.
I also add garlic liquid to everything. It's a great immunity booster and helps the fish stay healthy and parasite free.
I also add garlic liquid to everything. It's a great immunity booster and helps the fish stay healthy and parasite free.
ezee
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POPO59,
Wow thats alotta fish! I think when you add the fish to the QT you may have to be very careful about water quality. Unless you have a huge QT the quality of water in your QT could go bad very quickly due to the rapid load. After the QT, you may also want to add your new fish to your display in at least 2 week intervals to allow the bacteria to keep up, otherwise you still might start a mini cycle. Just an opinion from a newb.
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Wow thats alotta fish! I think when you add the fish to the QT you may have to be very careful about water quality. Unless you have a huge QT the quality of water in your QT could go bad very quickly due to the rapid load. After the QT, you may also want to add your new fish to your display in at least 2 week intervals to allow the bacteria to keep up, otherwise you still might start a mini cycle. Just an opinion from a newb.
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mikeyjer
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Originally Posted by DaneDodger
IMO, fish benefit from variety in foods because what one food is lacking in nutrients will probably be made up by another. Maybe true, maybe not but my fish and the fish at our store seem to do well with the variety. For any algae grazers put a strip of seaweed sheets (they come in different types so you can rotate) for them to nibble on, as much as they'll eat in a day or it gets gross. For bigger carnivore types you can feed small chunks of different seafoods like krill, mussels, etc. For a basic diet I thaw out different frozen mixtures, seperating meat stuff from veggie type stuff, add in brine shrimp, mysis, and whatever else is readily accepted by most critters, mix in some flake, different pellets crushed up, then spoon them back into the little compartments from the frozen foods, refreeze them, then thaw and feed each day. You could also freeze your mixtures into fairly thin sheets in ziploc baggies then break pieces off to feed, tiny ice cube trays, or anything else that will let you easily get smaller pieces to thaw and feed.
I also add garlic liquid to everything. It's a great immunity booster and helps the fish stay healthy and parasite free.
Hey, that's almost like the exact samething I'm doing! lol.... :happyfish
IMO, fish benefit from variety in foods because what one food is lacking in nutrients will probably be made up by another. Maybe true, maybe not but my fish and the fish at our store seem to do well with the variety. For any algae grazers put a strip of seaweed sheets (they come in different types so you can rotate) for them to nibble on, as much as they'll eat in a day or it gets gross. For bigger carnivore types you can feed small chunks of different seafoods like krill, mussels, etc. For a basic diet I thaw out different frozen mixtures, seperating meat stuff from veggie type stuff, add in brine shrimp, mysis, and whatever else is readily accepted by most critters, mix in some flake, different pellets crushed up, then spoon them back into the little compartments from the frozen foods, refreeze them, then thaw and feed each day. You could also freeze your mixtures into fairly thin sheets in ziploc baggies then break pieces off to feed, tiny ice cube trays, or anything else that will let you easily get smaller pieces to thaw and feed.
I also add garlic liquid to everything. It's a great immunity booster and helps the fish stay healthy and parasite free.
Hey, that's almost like the exact samething I'm doing! lol.... :happyfish
mikeyjer
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Well, personally I never feed flakes to my fish. I feed a variety of frozen (mysis, krill, bloodworms, brine (for snacks), and veg. mixes). Nothing really against flakes, except that I figure frozen is more nutritious.
Now, as for your picks ... always research before you buy. Anemones are among some of the hardest species to take care of. Add that to the fact that they are very over-harvested and you get a recipe for bad things in your tank. Anemones need well estrablished tanks and great lighting. They can also be very mobile... which can lead to massive chemical warfare between them, each other, and other corals.
How big does the puffer get? He could end up eating the clown and anything else he can swallow. That is what fish do... swallow anything they can...
The tang needs an established tank to feed. They are grazers.. they eat algae all the time (as it is low in nutrients and hard to digest they need to constantly be feeding).
I read on your other post about the advice your local fish store gave you. They lied about a cocktail shrimp making your water cloudy. I used 3 for my 210 gallon cycle. I also used uncured live rock. Never did my water get cloudy. I would seriously consider buying a couple of good books, getting lots of advice from around here, and never believing another word your fish store tells you. Damsels should never be used for cycling! If you still have the damsels, now would be a good time to take them back to the store before your new fish arrive.
Good luck! Hope your new arrivals do well!
Now I'll agree with you on this one!!!
mikeyjer
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Originally Posted by popo559
I have a 100 gallon. Why do you say I should have researched. I was concerned with the puffer and the reefs, but I was told do to the size of the tank it should not be an issue.
It is a issue cause your tank is NOT well established yet!!!! It can take up to one year before your tank is well established. I would stop that order you have right now while you have the chance. If you want to keep the order going and have everything all in at once at this moment, it's up to you. If it all works out for you, great! It is a lot of bio-load even though you have a large tank cause it's a young tank IMO. Good Luck! :happyfish
I have a 100 gallon. Why do you say I should have researched. I was concerned with the puffer and the reefs, but I was told do to the size of the tank it should not be an issue.
It is a issue cause your tank is NOT well established yet!!!! It can take up to one year before your tank is well established. I would stop that order you have right now while you have the chance. If you want to keep the order going and have everything all in at once at this moment, it's up to you. If it all works out for you, great! It is a lot of bio-load even though you have a large tank cause it's a young tank IMO. Good Luck! :happyfish
mikeyjer
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Originally Posted by popo559
So are you saying that I should not add any fish for a year?
I'm not saying that, but not the ones your adding except the clown. I would wait at least a couple more months before adding the rest of the crew in and add the anemones last after 6 months have passed. During that process you can be sure your doing everything all right and the water condition is good. You can get the rest of your fish right now if you want to if you have a QT tank for them. IMO I would add like a couple a month. Best to QT all new arrivals for a month. Good Luck! :happyfish
So are you saying that I should not add any fish for a year?
I'm not saying that, but not the ones your adding except the clown. I would wait at least a couple more months before adding the rest of the crew in and add the anemones last after 6 months have passed. During that process you can be sure your doing everything all right and the water condition is good. You can get the rest of your fish right now if you want to if you have a QT tank for them. IMO I would add like a couple a month. Best to QT all new arrivals for a month. Good Luck! :happyfish
1journeyman
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yes.. If a fish has a disease you don't want to introduce that disease into your main tank. Once there, a disease could live for months, or even longer; many marine parasites can lie dormant for who knows how long.