whats a safe size tank?

flip_x

Member
i would get the long version but it wouldnt work every well in my room its rather small i wouldnt have a place to put my bed haha i have one usable wall.. one is for the bed, closet, and window..
as for the test im just gonna have like 5-6 of my friends stand in the area i will put it on and jump lol..
 

aquaguy24

Active Member
then a 75g or 90g should be good. I keep a scopas tang in my 90g with no problems, but given he's only 2inches big.
 
ur gunna have to move that sucker once hes 15" but u got time
anyways id say a 90 g coner tank or 100g wavy tank the front part of the tank has 2 waves in it
 

novahobbies

Well-Known Member
You could also do a 110 gallon tall....it's got the same space footprint as a 75 or a 90, just (you guessed it) taller. I love mine, it's like the size of an HD tv.
 

mr_x

Active Member
yeah, but he mentioned lighting. it would be pricey to light a 110 tall. not to mention the aquascaping would be a challenge.
that's amazing culp. it's the first time i've heard of something like that happening. were they new apartments, or very old ones? i wonder what scenario is actually stronger.
 
Firstly, I am a glass guy, yes it is heavier, but doesn't scratch and I think glass gives a much brighter/cleaner look into the aquarium.
I had the same worries, had a 28G JBJ Nano, and built a custom 175G with 105G refugium. It has been up for 3 months now. I have it on the second floor of my house.
What you need to be concerned with is the bracing underneath. If possible try to figure out where the floor joices are, and what type they are. For example I have a newer house, so my joices are the squeekless type, so they don't use 2X4's of plain wood, they are glued layers of plywood and are much stronger than traditional. Also I put my tank in a spot where 3 to 4 joices ran underneath the the system and is also in the corner of the wall (2 supporting walls). What this meant is that I didn't have to brace the ceiling underneath the system (the garage, as the system is in a bonus room above the garage). My system is probably 2500-3000 pounds with no issues so far.
I hope this helps.
 

shrimpi

Active Member
First and foremost.. check with your landlord to see if there is any FINE print on those lame lease contracts (I have been burned.. can you tell? lol). Most apartments/rentals have stipulations against fish tanks... especially ones over like 20g. What happens is that your tank falls through the ceiling, damages your property, the guys under you, and the building.. and the landlord takes you to court because the tank wasnt supposed to be in there anyway (because of your lease).
I had a friend who worked for a leasing company who explained this 'possibility' to me back when I had a 40g (ground floor though haha).. and I just wanted to cover all bases.
After you clear the lease thing.. then check to see how much that floor can hold and get the biggest baddest one you can fit!
Good Luck
Jess
 

mr_x

Active Member
i once kept a 125 gallon tank with a 75 gallon sump directly under it, in a 2nd floor apartment with wood floors, for over a year. 60 year old buildings.
 

snowrider84

Member
if you put it on an extior wall it will be stronger since the joist bear on the wall and the wall will end up with the weight and make sure its sitting on multipule joist so the load is placed proper, if its on a single it is putting all the weight on one , so spread it out over a few and you shouldnt have an issue. sorry bout the bad spelling its late time for bed
 

locoyo386

Member
Hi there,
Not sure if you checked with your landloard, some landloards do not accept tanks bigger than 55g on the second floor (bigger liability).
If you did, and he/she is ok with the bigger tank, than I would go with the biggest tank you can fit.
You could be reaching the 2000 lbs weight on a 150 gallon, I would suggest that the bigger the tank, that you go with the longest tank you can fit (you might have to rearange the room). I would also try to figure out with direction the joist are running so you can place the tank over the most possible floor joists. I agree in tryin to keep the tank clossest to the wall.
If you can't go long on the tank and the floor plan of the tank you do get is small, you might try putting a thick (3/4" or more) 4'x8' plywood under the tank. This will help in reditributin the weight more evenly over a wider areas.
ps. but do check with the landloard as they might not want a tank that big.
 

locoyo386

Member
Originally Posted by Mr_X
http:///forum/post/2794753
i once kept a 125 gallon tank with a 75 gallon sump directly under it, in a 2nd floor apartment with wood floors, for over a year. 60 year old buildings.
This might not be so obvious to people but biuldings that where built a while back have better joists than the new ones. That might not had been such an issue in a building that is 60 years old. If you try that in a newer building it might be a bigger issue than you think.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by locoyo386
http:///forum/post/2854267
This might not be so obvious to people but biuldings that where built a while back have better joists than the new ones. That might not had been such an issue in a building that is 60 years old. If you try that in a newer building it might be a bigger issue than you think.
How many gallons of water do you think is in a King size bed?
 
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dennis210

Guest
Looking at this post kinda makes you laugh. A four foot tank will spread it weight over 3 floor joyces at 16 inch on center. Along a outside wall - whether you run with or intersect the joyces you should be fine. As for flooding? You need to get the tank and sump system set up where you have spare room in system for power outage for water to drain down into sump without overflowing. Other than that simply contact your insurance agent and let them know you have a rather exspensive piece of home decor and they will write out a rider on the system. Everyone ass is covered and you get your tank!
 

mr_x

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2854336
How many gallons of water do you think is in a King size bed?
i don't know about a king, but A queen size waterbed mattress which is 9 inches deep will hold approximately 187 gallons of water.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by Mr_X
http:///forum/post/2854365
i don't know about a king, but A queen size waterbed mattress which is 9 inches deep will hold approximately 187 gallons of water.
My point is this ive landed 80 sheets of 3/4" osb plywood on open framed decks building homes,apartments..... with the framing consisting of nominal size wood members form 2x10-2x12 or TJI,glulambs,LVLs.....
@23Lbs. per sheet X 80 sheets =1840 lbs i have yet to see a bunk of ply break through a floor. and ive been building structures for over 20 years.
Weight wont be an issue if you put it up along a bearing wall and since most apartments are identical and are stacked one over the other, chances are that all the ******** walls in your apartment are supported by a another wall beneath it.
I would recommend a exterior wall however.
 

nigerbang

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2854438
My point is this ive landed 80 sheets of 3/4" osb plywood on open framed decks building homes,apartments..... with the framing consisting of nominal size wood members form 2x10-2x12 or TJI,glulambs,LVLs.....
@23Lbs. per sheet X 80 sheets =1840 lbs i have yet to see a bunk of ply break through a floor. and ive been building structures for over 20 years.
Weight wont be an issue if you put it up along a bearing wall and since most apartments are identical and are stacked one over the other, chances are that all the ******** walls in your apartment are supported by a another wall beneath it.
I would recommend a exterior wall however.
+1
 
I had a 75g, then moved and was set on getting the 90g, then realized I could get the 110g that has the same footprint or the other two! Of course I had to get the 110g, then have a builder come in and construct a custom wall in my entrance for it :) My tank is actually running parallel to the floor support beams. My house was constructed with 12" on center, not 16", so I got lucky, but still not the ideal way to have it placed but it seems to work, filled it slowly to test though! I love the height of the 110g!
 

locoyo386

Member
Well you are increasing the capacity of the joists by placing them at 12" O.C. instead of 16" O.C.
Is it me or did Flip X abondoned this thread?
 
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