When it rains, it pours....

[aquaknight]

The RSX and NSX both had specific problems. Both were underpowered. Who is their right mind would pay $85,000+ for an NSX, a 270hp V6 supercar? The RSX lost it's original customer base. It was too bulky compared to the Integra it replaced, but wasn't really "luxury" enough to attract that market.
But the RSX/NSX illustrates one issue, there's no middle ground performance cars. The 3000GT's Supras, etc have been gone for almost 13 years now for the Supra. Yea, there's the Nissan 370z's and Mazda RX8's, but their sales don't compare to anything Toyota or Honda makes.
That's what I liked about the General. They have/had something for everyone. Down to only 4 brands today, but still make far more variety then the big Jap 2.
As for the 20-somethings wanting Civics and 50-somethings wanting Corvettes, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only 20-something on the Corvette forum. As for a "Civic that will blow a Corvette out of the water." Sure, if you throw lots of money at a Civic, you might be able to get it to go faster in a straight line then a stock Corvette, if it hooks up and doesn't break a half-shaft. Interestingly enough, I'm personally a fan when you start to modify a Corvette

. Civic can't compete then... Nor though short of Euro stuff, or Godzilla (GT-R), but he still loses

.

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3235676
P.S. I have nothing against Dodge... I think they make good cars... except for that piece of crap Chrysler Town and Country that I drove around for a few weeks. I hated it....
...but it could have also been because it's a minivan... what man wants to drive that?
I put in enough years as a tech in 3 different Chrysler/Dodge dealerships to say with authority that...
CHRYSLER IS A THIRD RATE CAR COMPANY, PERIOD!!!

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3235745
The RSX and NSX both had specific problems. Both were underpowered. Who is their right mind would pay $85,000+ for an NSX, a 270hp V6 supercar? The RSX lost it's original customer base. It was too bulky compared to the Integra it replaced, but wasn't really "luxury" enough to attract that market.
But the RSX/NSX illustrates one issue, there's no middle ground performance cars. The 3000GT's Supras, etc have been gone for almost 13 years now for the Supra. Yea, there's the Nissan 370z's and Mazda RX8's, but their sales don't compare to anything Toyota or Honda makes.
That's what I liked about the General. They have/had something for everyone. Down to only 4 brands today, but still make far more variety then the big Jap 2.
As for the 20-somethings wanting Civics and 50-somethings wanting Corvettes, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only 20-something on the Corvette forum. As for a "Civic that will blow a Corvette out of the water." Sure, if you throw lots of money at a Civic, you might be able to get it to go faster in a straight line then a stock Corvette, if it hooks up and doesn't break a half-shaft. Interestingly enough, I'm personally a fan when you start to modify a Corvette

. Civic can't compete then... Nor though short of Euro stuff, or Godzilla (GT-R), but he still loses

.
There is a really good reason 20 somethings want civics. It is called a 20k price tag. Vs a 50k tag on a vette. It doesn't take much to get a civic to beat a vette in a 1/4. Or on a course. But hey once you start doing the same things on a vette, there would be no question...

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3235800
There is a really good reason 20 somethings want civics. It is called a 20k price tag. Vs a 50k tag on a vette. It doesn't take much to get a civic to beat a vette in a 1/4. Or on a course. But hey once you start doing the same things on a vette, there would be no question...
Not sure I agree. 20 somethings rarely buy a new car, those that do go out and spend $20k+ on a new Civic very rarely mod it, at least to "beat a vette status." As to that, unless you mean like an 80's CrossFire Injections 210hp Corvette, the cheapest 2010 Vette has 426hp, with quarter mile times in the high 12's. It's going to take a whole lot more then "not much" to get a 2010 Civic into those times. Around a course, both cars with expert drivers, I'm don't think that's even possible, at least keeping the Civic street legal.