see recycler.com to purchase a used setup. sometimes you may get a very sweet deal. you'll have to look in "pets" then "aquarium" to get there. i was able to acquire an ice cap 660, bulbs, and more for $220. and the retail prices on all the equip would have been in the neighborhood of $850. <img src="graemlins//urrr.gif" border="0" alt="[urrr]" />
needless to say, i was very happy!!