Where to buy RO water

larryndana

Active Member
To the orginial poster:
It would be wise to look into a Ro or Ro/Di unit later down the road. Most supermarkets will sell Ro or Distilled water. Either will be fine. But sometimes you will pay alot for water, which is why purifing it yourself would be cheaper and easier. I can buy Ro for .50 a gallon and if i filled my 75 gallon up once it would be $37.50. and doing 15percent water changes every two weeks. roughly 12gallons which is 6 dollars. A ro/di unit would pay for itself in a year.
got side tracked on talking about getting a ro/di unit, sorry. lol....
You may be able to get water delievered to your home which would take the hassle of buying it and bringing it home.
 

chinpokomon

Member
Originally Posted by larryndana
A ro/di unit will be cheaper in the long run, i agree.
Collecting seawater is not a good idea, i agree.
toss a damsel, crabs, and snails to test for toxicity....i would say this is a terrible idea. i don't understand why you would possibly want to harm the animals to see if the water is ok to use.

If you insist on using natural seawater it is better to kill three common low cost animals than destroy expensive rare animals. If your water kills the hardy animals I mentioned your DT tank could be toast. Whole tank die offs do MUCH greater damage to the natural ecosystem when they are replaced than the few common animals. If you reread my original post I discourage readers from using natural seawater but I realize some people still may be tempted. If your objections are based on the needless stress or deaths of some of Gods creatures I regret to inform you that our hobby needlessly stresses and eventually kills every animal collected. They all belong in the wild (most are not bred) but we ship them in bags around the world and cage them for our enjoyment where only a small percentage actually lives their full lifespan and few ever spawn. Did I mention they no long add genetic diversity to the ecosystem they were snatched from?
I worked for a marine LFS for about 20 years where our shipping loss rate averaged 3-10% but it could run as high as 50%. On rare occasions it would be 100% due to weather grounding aircraft and mind you our shipments could contain 100’s of animals in one flight. Then the survivors were sold but as you know people who know their stuff don’t buy many critters and they don’t do it often. Sadly most of any LFS stock is sold to killer customers who have a little money and less knowledge. I saw it all the time “wow these test kits are expensive, do I really need a skimmer, refractometer no my $10 hydrometer is fine” and the classic “I know you said they were incompatible but they got along fine….. for a while”. So I’m sorry if I seem callous but I guess I have a different perspective on the subject I didn’t mean to offend you by all means test your natural seawater on your DT.
 

kanicky

Member
Came to this thread a little late, but I'll go ahead and add my $.02

We've been going to our favorite LFS that's about 20 miles (give or take) away from where we live for RO/DI water. They usually don't charge us for it because we're faithful customers, but the drive there costs us about $5-$10 in gas, and we do that every two weeks.
Obviously, you all have seen the gas prices sky-rocketing, so last night we took the plunge and invested in a 4-Step RO unit. We did the math, and in three months time, we will start saving money by having this unit. I am so excited! Now I can be sure that my fish and inverts are the "happiest" and healthiest they can be :happyfish
(The only thing that stinks about this whole thing is that now I won't have a really good excuse to go to the LFS every two weeks!
)
I definitely recommend getting an RO unit, especially if you're serious about this hobby. It's an investment, and well worth it.
 

larryndana

Active Member
Originally Posted by chinpokomon
If you insist on using natural seawater it is better to kill three common low cost animals than destroy expensive rare animals. If your water kills the hardy animals I mentioned your DT tank could be toast. Whole tank die offs do MUCH greater damage to the natural ecosystem when they are replaced than the few common animals. If you reread my original post I discourage readers from using natural seawater but I realize some people still may be tempted. If your objections are based on the needless stress or deaths of some of Gods creatures I regret to inform you that our hobby needlessly stresses and eventually kills every animal collected. They all belong in the wild (most are not bred) but we ship them in bags around the world and cage them for our enjoyment where only a small percentage actually lives their full lifespan and few ever spawn. Did I mention they no long add genetic diversity to the ecosystem they were snatched from?
I worked for a marine LFS for about 20 years where our shipping loss rate averaged 3-10% but it could run as high as 50%. On rare occasions it would be 100% due to weather grounding aircraft and mind you our shipments could contain 100’s of animals in one flight. Then the survivors were sold but as you know people who know their stuff don’t buy many critters and they don’t do it often. Sadly most of any LFS stock is sold to killer customers who have a little money and less knowledge. I saw it all the time “wow these test kits are expensive, do I really need a skimmer, refractometer no my $10 hydrometer is fine” and the classic “I know you said they were incompatible but they got along fine….. for a while”. So I’m sorry if I seem callous but I guess I have a different perspective on the subject I didn’t mean to offend you by all means test your natural seawater on your DT.
say what you really mean....

first, i don't recommend collecting your own seawater....like stated above.
second, i understand alot of animals are lost due to shipping and bad husbandry. There isn't anything i can say about shipping, but when it comes to husbandry i can. Theres no reason to skimp on equipment....as well as using animals as experiments to see if water is bad or not. I agree the ocean is a much better place, but we can do as much as possible to replicate it. Without intensionally harming animals. I remember a mod here saying once that this is a site for keeping fish alive, not experimenting with them....i am an aquarist not a scientist.
third, most lfs are looking to make money....which sometimes clouds their judgment of what the should and shouldn't do. of course if i owned a bussiness i'd be out to make money to, don't get me wrong.
four, a nice conversation....no flames here.
 
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