Which are better algae eaters?

tstaub3

Member
none IMO I have been blessed with some sorta brisle type algea tried all of them .So I took a piece of rock to my fish dude and experimented ? Guess who picked it clean emeral crab!
 

celacanthr

Active Member
Originally Posted by mudplayerx
Why do you have turbo snails and astrea snails paired? They are two completely different critters.
Although they may be different critters, people use them interchangeably. What is the latin name for turbo snails? I have always wanted to know.
 

wax32

Active Member
There are Turbo snails and there are Astraea snails. The genus Turbo is represented by the HUGE mexican turbos and the genus Astraea is represented by the little cone shaped snails that people commonly call turbos.
http://www.zooxanthellae.com
"turbo" snail, Astraea sp.

Mexican turbo, Turbo
sp.
Sorry I don't have a better picture of my Mexican Turbo
snail.
At any rate... the best algae eatting snail is Trochus
as far as I am concerned.

(Bottom Snail), Trochus
sp. / (Top Snail), Nassarius
sp.
Nassarius
snails don't eat algae at all, the eat detritus and other dead meat.
Hope that helps.
 

celacanthr

Active Member
Originally Posted by wax32
There are Turbo snails and there are Astraea snails. The genus Turbo is represented by the HUGE mexican turbos and the genus Astraea is represented by the little cone shaped snails that people commonly call turbos.
http://www.zooxanthellae.com
"turbo" snail, Astraea sp.

Mexican turbo, Turbo
sp.
Sorry I don't have a better picture of my Mexican Turbo
snail.
At any rate... the best algae eatting snail is Trochus
as far as I am concerned.

(Bottom Snail), Trochus
sp. / (Top Snail), Nassarius
sp.
Nassarius
snails don't eat algae at all, the eat detritus and other dead meat.
Hope that helps.
Oh, Dang, that's right! LOL, I am so tired, and I was so tired...well, all week. I am making crazy mistakes all week! I can't believe I messed that up! LOL
What beautiful pics wax!
 

celacanthr

Active Member
Ok, I realized why I got confused.
Instead of turbo, I read turban, that Is why I said they are used interchangeably! Sorry bout that.
 

chipmaker

Active Member
I did not vote due to choices not being right..but my preference for algae eaters is the ceriths in smaller tanks and the Atlantic Cats eye (in turbo snail family) would be my choice in a larger setup. They are not nearly as much of a bulldozer as the larger turbo's are
 

mr_bill

Active Member
I think I might have a Trochus snail I got as a hitchhiker. At first I thought it might be a sundial snail but since I had no polyps for it to eat figured the hermits would make quick work of it after it expired. Well the thing bigger than my largest mexican turbo snail now and seems to be an angae grazer. It's white and black instead of the white and brown shown in that picture though. Any ideas?? I'll get a picture when I get home if I can find him in the rockwork.
 

wax32

Active Member
There are lots of different species of Trochus snails, most have bands like the one in my picture, but some don't. You can usually tell them apart from Astraea snails by looking at their foot... most Astraea snails are cream to greyish and Trochus are more black. Trochus also move WAY faster and are usually, but not always, nocturnal. Trochus shells are usually pointier looking, almost like a perfect pyramid or turban shape, Astraea are more like a longish cone.
 

mr_bill

Active Member
Originally Posted by wax32
There are lots of different species of Trochus snails, most have bands like the one in my picture, but some don't. You can usually tell them apart from Astraea snails by looking at their foot... most Astraea snails are cream to greyish and Trochus are more black. Trochus also move WAY faster and are usually, but not always, nocturnal. Trochus shells are usually pointier looking, almost like a perfect pyramid or turban shape, Astraea are more like a longish cone.

Well that almost fits my mystery snail perfect then. He is nocturnal and has blackish skin. , How big to they get? I'll run a few searchs now.
 

wax32

Active Member
Here are a couple more pictures I just took today:
http://www.zooxanthellae.com
Mexican Turbo, Turbo sp.
http://www.zooxanthellae.com
Star Shell Snail, Astraea
sp.
In the second picture you can really see why the genus name is Astraea
(star).

Common turbo, Astraea
sp.
Personally, I wish people would only use latin names... less confusion, especially with the whole turbo snail thing!
 

mr_bill

Active Member
OMG, is this right??
Trochus Snail, Trochussp.
A snail that is useful in controlling algae. This species is being farm raised and, although it is sold as small individuals, it grows very large- 5-6 inches in diameter.

5-6 inches???!!! is that true?
 

wax32

Active Member
Some might, I dunno. Mine are all like big Astraea.
BTW, thanks for the picture compliment CELACANTHr.
Here is another picture of one of my Trochus
, you can really see the bands:

Trochus
sp.
Remember that most snail genera have lots of species, so what is true of one of the species in the genus might not be true for all of the species.
 
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