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stevedave08

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3179866
I believe it goes deeper than Pelosi and Reid.There are a very few exceptions like Michele Bachmann for example that have spoken out in defense of the Constitution and is actively doing things to promote liberty.
Really? Michele Bachmann? What is it with conservatives supporting these obviously retarded people. If you have a cause that you want to someone to speak on your behalf for, I would think you'd pick a more intelligent person who can speak and know what they are talking about. I have nothing against people speaking their mind and standing up for what they believe in on any side of an argument, but know what you are talking about and speak correctly instead of just saying dumb, imflammatory things to get a crowd of teabaggers riled up. Don't get me started on those "tea parties" either. Half of those people don't even know why they are there and when you ask them a question it's a lame talking point with no substance to back it up. When I see so many people rallying behind really unintelligent people to lead their argument/cause it's a little frightening. Michelle Bachmann is in line with Sarah Palin for retard of the year. I'm not attacking your point of view by the way, just expressing a thought about what I feel is hurting the GOP's chances. Ignore the interpretation of the media in these videos and just pay attention to what Bachman and Palin have to say. No clue, perpetuation of lies, and inciting of violence hidden behind set talking points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23itODyctH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPNUBzywMAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzR1B4MYYQY
Also, when someone like Boehner holds the constitution in his hand and says he's going to read from it and then proceeds to read the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence, it's a little scary. How is he supposed to uphold the constitution if he doesn't knowthe difference between two wholly different documents that we learn about in grade school and high school. All I'm saying is republicans aren't doing themselves any favor in carrying on as they are. Read this for info about what I'm talking about.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by SteveDave08
http:///forum/post/3181074
Really? Michele Bachmann? What is it with conservatives supporting these obviously retarded people. If you have a cause that you want to someone to speak on your behalf for, I would think you'd pick a more intelligent person who can speak and know what they are talking about. I have nothing against people speaking their mind and standing up for what they believe in on any side of an argument, but know what you are talking about and speak correctly instead of just saying dumb, imflammatory things to get a crowd of teabaggers riled up. Don't get me started on those "tea parties" either. Half of those people don't even know why they are there and when you ask them a question it's a lame talking point with no substance to back it up. When I see so many people rallying behind really unintelligent people to lead their argument/cause it's a little frightening. Michelle Bachmann is in line with Sarah Palin for retard of the year. I'm not attacking your point of view by the way, just expressing a thought about what I feel is hurting the GOP's chances. Ignore the interpretation of the media in these videos and just pay attention to what Bachman and Palin have to say. No clue, perpetuation of lies, and inciting of violence hidden behind set talking points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23itODyctH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPNUBzywMAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzR1B4MYYQY
Also, when someone like Boehner holds the constitution in his hand and says he's going to read from it and then proceeds to read the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence, it's a little scary. How is he supposed to uphold the constitution if he doesn't knowthe difference between two wholly different documents that we learn about in grade school and high school. All I'm saying is republicans aren't doing themselves any favor in carrying on as they are. Read this for info about what I'm talking about.
So I guess that makes her just as Retarded as Obama and not nearly as much as Biden

I guess the guy quoting the Declaration of Independence is a tard too but Ooops!!! Those pocket constitutions have the Declaration in the front of the book as well.
What is see is a bunch of elitist liberals getting unhinged when common folk who attend tea parties can drive public opinion despite the efforts of most media to push the liberal agenda. Just keep talking about retards and tea baggers and we will see who comes out on top.
 

stevedave08

Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3181146
So I guess that makes her just as Retarded as Obama and not nearly as much as Biden

I guess the guy quoting the Declaration of Independence is a tard too but Ooops!!! Those pocket constitutions have the Declaration in the front of the book as well.
What is see is a bunch of elitist liberals getting unhinged when common folk who attend tea parties can drive public opinion despite the efforts of most media to push the liberal agenda. Just keep talking about retards and tea baggers and we will see who comes out on top.
Judging from the intelligence, aptitude, and substance of these common folk I guess you're right. These people who know nothing are the ones who know what's best for America. Let's not even go into pushing a political agenda by way of the media since the big tea party was pretty much set up by Fox. I call them how I see them, and have no qualms about doing so. The only thing I agree with in this video is that I cant stand people who sit at home and collect welfare and keep having kids and collect more welfare. Also, I think people on welfare should be drug tested and reprimanded by suspension of welfare should they test positive(even temporarily until they test negative). Here's a great example of retards in motion. Most of which, I'm pretty sure judging by their ages, are on Medicare. So their thoughts are F everyone else, I'm covered. My favorite is the fat woman with the clueless, nodding husband crying because the big bad black muslim is going to kill her grandkids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
 

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by SteveDave08
http:///forum/post/3181164
Judging from the intelligence, aptitude, and substance of these common folk I guess you're right. These people who know nothing are the ones who know what's best for America. Let's not even go into pushing a political agenda by way of the media since the big tea party was pretty much set up by Fox. I call them how I see them, and have no qualms about doing so. The only thing I agree with in this video is that I cant stand people who sit at home and collect welfare and keep having kids and collect more welfare. Also, I think people on welfare should be drug tested and reprimanded by suspension of welfare should they test positive(even temporarily until they test negative). Here's a great example of retards in motion. Most of which, I'm pretty sure judging by their ages, are on Medicare. So their thoughts are F everyone else, I'm covered. My favorite is the fat woman with the clueless, nodding husband crying because the big bad black muslim is going to kill her grandkids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
I cant wait until the 2010 blindside thrashing progressive liberals and those who support their destructive agenda are going to take.Until then im going to keep hanging with the common folk at Tea Parties and tea bagging the retards who support Progressive Liberals and there socialist agenda.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by SteveDave08
http:///forum/post/3181164
Judging from the intelligence, aptitude, and substance of these common folk I guess you're right. These people who know nothing are the ones who know what's best for America. Let's not even go into pushing a political agenda by way of the media since the big tea party was pretty much set up by Fox. I call them how I see them, and have no qualms about doing so. The only thing I agree with in this video is that I cant stand people who sit at home and collect welfare and keep having kids and collect more welfare. Also, I think people on welfare should be drug tested and reprimanded by suspension of welfare should they test positive(even temporarily until they test negative). Here's a great example of retards in motion. Most of which, I'm pretty sure judging by their ages, are on Medicare. So their thoughts are F everyone else, I'm covered. My favorite is the fat woman with the clueless, nodding husband crying because the big bad black muslim is going to kill her grandkids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
It is those with the arrogance you display who think they know it all that have pulled this country into the ditch we are in. How are the old timers who want their medicare, WHICH THEY HAVE PAID FOR, wrong but the leeches waiting in line for their free money, what kind of money, OBAMA MONEY!!! fine upstanding citizens?
 
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vinnyraptor

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since when are guns banned? how many members does the NRA have? how many americans hunt every year? how many citizens have conceal and carry permits? since when have guns been banned? i was just at a sporting goods store and they had tons of guns for sale. so what are you saying?
 
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vinnyraptor

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the ditch was dug by Bush, Obama is just trying to fill it. and by doing so he is giving average americans a break instead of the 1 to 5 percenter's. there has always been medicare and welfare fraud, under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama. people have and always will fraud the system. its not a democrat or republican problem its a social problem. i like the idea of drug testing those who recieve benefits. im as liberal as they come and even like the idea of legalizing pot. but i dont want some welfare lazy sob using my tax dollars to get high or eat crab legs.
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3181282
the ditch was dug by Bush, Obama is just trying to fill it. and by doing so he is giving average americans a break instead of the 1 to 5 percenter's.
Explain how he has given the average american a break?
 
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vinnyraptor

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by extending unemployment benefits, by the cash for clunkers program, by making the banks negotiate with people to stay in their homes, by giving a 8000 $ tax credit to first time home buyers. do you think the top 5%'ers needed any of these programs? not to mention his free college for civil service program and affordable healthcare that WILL be implemented.
 
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vinnyraptor

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3181210
I cant wait until the 2010 blindside thrashing progressive liberals and those who support their destructive agenda are going to take.Until then im going to keep hanging with the common folk at Tea Parties and tea bagging the retards who support Progressive Liberals and there socialist agenda.


ok Rush, lol
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3181278
since when are guns banned? how many members does the NRA have? how many americans hunt every year? how many citizens have conceal and carry permits? since when have guns been banned? i was just at a sporting goods store and they had tons of guns for sale. so what are you saying?
Been to California recently? There is a rather extensive list of banned guns there. I do believe the Chicago hand gun ban is still in place as well, at least for the time being.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3181282
the ditch was dug by Bush, Obama is just trying to fill it. and by doing so he is giving average americans a break instead of the 1 to 5 percenter's. there has always been medicare and welfare fraud, under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama. people have and always will fraud the system. its not a democrat or republican problem its a social problem. i like the idea of drug testing those who recieve benefits. im as liberal as they come and even like the idea of legalizing pot. but i dont want some welfare lazy sob using my tax dollars to get high or eat crab legs.
The ditch has been there for many decades, Obama is just dragging us deeper into it and I aint saying Bush didn't already have us there either.
I do agree on the drug testing policy, alcohol too.
 

stevedave08

Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3181268
It is those with the arrogance you display who think they know it all that have pulled this country into the ditch we are in. How are the old timers who want their medicare, WHICH THEY HAVE PAID FOR, wrong but the leeches waiting in line for their free money, what kind of money, OBAMA MONEY!!! fine upstanding citizens?
I don't think I know it all. What I was expressing in the beginning of my last post was sarcasm (look it up). If you're saying that I'm arrogant because I pointed out a fact and it hurts your feelings because it proves my point, then so be it. I love how you you hold on to that one ignorant black woman saying "obama money"...She is the equivalent of those "common folk" in the video I posted. Unfortunately in this country, most "common folk" are uneducated and/or intolerant people. It's not their fault, they were raised that way, but it's got to stop. The thing I love most though is how I can find crazy amounts of these people spewing garbage out of their mouths and who don't know what they're talking about at these tea parties, but it's a little more difficult to find that many people on the other side who are as dumb/uneducated/stupid. They exist (dumb people on both sides), but there currently aren't people holding rallies in Obama's favor in the streets spewing baseless nonsense just because they don't like the color of someones skin and/or heritage of a father he barely knew.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3181293
by extending unemployment benefits, by the cash for clunkers program, by making the banks negotiate with people to stay in their homes, by giving a 8000 $ tax credit to first time home buyers. do you think the top 5%'ers needed any of these programs? not to mention his free college for civil service program and affordable healthcare that WILL be implemented.
Cash for clunkers? Get serious. That program will have a net negative effect once we the people get the bill for it. First time home buyers, again a joke. Encouraging people who can't afford a loan to get one is what led to this whole mess to begin with. The whole concept of requiring a dawn payment is to demonstrate the ability of the borrower to budget their finances in such a way to be able to afford a house payment. This program is providing another way around that.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by SteveDave08
http:///forum/post/3181299
I don't think I know it all. What I was expressing in the beginning of my last post was sarcasm (look it up). If you're saying that I'm arrogant because I pointed out a fact and it hurts your feelings because it proves my point, then so be it. I love how you you hold on to that one ignorant black woman saying "obama money"...She is the equivalent of those "common folk" in the video I posted. Unfortunately in this country, most "common folk" are uneducated and/or intolerant people. It's not their fault, they were raised that way, but it's got to stop. The thing I love most though is how I can find crazy amounts of these people spewing garbage out of their mouths and who don't know what they're talking about at these tea parties, but it's a little more difficult to find that many people on the other side who are as dumb/uneducated/stupid. They exist (dumb people on both sides), but there currently aren't people holding rallies in Obama's favor in the streets spewing baseless nonsense just because they don't like the color of someones skin and/or heritage of a father he barely knew.
You mean like the guy at the tea party who had the gun? He was there because he didn't like the color of Obama's skin? You know, the tea bagger who also happened to be black?
So people who oppose obama are all dumb and intolerant, and you aren't arrogant. Yeah, whatever
 
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vinnyraptor

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3181295
Been to California recently? There is a rather extensive list of banned guns there. I do believe the Chicago hand gun ban is still in place as well, at least for the time being.
i dont know everything but isnt California a STATE and Chicago a CITY? how do those gun bans relate to the President and his ideals? oh and btw isnt the Gov. of Cali a Republican? weak REEF!!!
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3181293
by extending unemployment benefits, by the cash for clunkers program, by making the banks negotiate with people to stay in their homes, by giving a 8000 $ tax credit to first time home buyers. do you think the top 5%'ers needed any of these programs? not to mention his free college for civil service program and affordable healthcare that WILL be implemented.
Unemployment benefit extension---If I understand correctly in most states you could get an unemployment extension anyway if you showed documented proof you were actively looking for a job. all he did is divert more funding for this.............
Cash for clunkers----the cost of used cars has now gone up since many of them were destroyed. The average American buys a used car, not a new one. The only people this plan helped was the auto unions..........the people that could qualify for a new car were all that got one...
Made banks renegotiate with the home owners? He did no such thing. The banks did this themselves. Because it was in their best interest. And yet still each month this year foreclosures nationally increased each month......
8000 dollar tax credit for first time home buyers.....gee is the average american a first time home buyer? Actually this plan eliminated many people from participating and thus did not help the average american.
Atleast the Bush tax cuts cut the amount of income tax of EVERY american that paid income tax.....Not just the top 1%....and when those tax cuts go away...that you so hate, your income tax will go up....unless you are one of those people that don't pay income tax.
 
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vinnyraptor

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the same laws that started this mess are no longer in effect. the people who qualified for those loans should be able to pay them. both are a HUGE sucess and both helped pull the american auto industry and the housing market out of the abyss.
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3181320
the same laws that started this mess are no longer in effect. the people who qualified for those loans should be able to pay them. both are a HUGE sucess and both helped pull the american auto industry and the housing market out of the abyss.


Did the american auto industry replace any of those many jobs they cut?Are they seeing a profit yet?
Has the housing market foreclosures gone back to the levekls they were at before the "recession"?
Your calling the game as won and we haven't even hit halftime yet.....
 
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