Whole new level of irritation...

[aw2x3]

The bar, where my girlfriend bartends, makes quite a bit of money. Heather is the head bartender...the right hand woman, of the female bar owner, if you will.
The bar owner wanted her house remodeled and, knowing how many great people are out of work, in this area...good people...construction workers, laid off...she calls up her sister, who imports some illegal Mexicans, for her from Texas. They actually drove to Texas and picked them up!
To save a few dollars, she's brought in 9 Mexicans. The bar owner, herself, always complains about how the good people, around here, are out of work and in turn, it's dropping her bar business. Does she hire the local laborers, who she's friends with?...no...she imports illegals.
So, I get to sit around, at the bar tonight, listening to their damned circus music, watch them drink their Mexican beer (that the owner specially bought for them), make Heather grill 40 different kinds of food and not tip on food or drink...
I think a call to the local INS office, tomorrow, is in order.

 

[snakeblitz33]

Eh, while it is unfortunate that she is not supporting the local economy - she is doing what she feels is necessary to save money to support her business. She is trying to stay in business by hiring people that will work for less money. It's a business thing, and while your girlfriend is not getting any tips because of this - at least she has a job, and her employer still owns a bar instead of being arrested for hiring illegals... If you get my point...
If you don't, this is what I'm saying: Don't make the call. If you do, then that employer may not have a job/business and in turn, your girlfriend will loose her job, her title, and become one of those unfortunate good people in your town. So, stay out of it. JMHO.

 

[aw2x3]

What's unfortunate is that the bar owner has more money than she knows what to do with.
She'll be the first, on a daily basis, to complain about how her friends are out of work, the local economy, etc.
Instead of hiring her friends...who are local builders...she hires illegals.
That's my gripe.

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by AW2x3
http:///forum/post/3147733
watch them drink their Mexican beer (that the owner specially bought for them),
Happen to know which one? Tecate, Sol, Modelo, or Bohemia? Bohemia is definitely a top shelf beer worthy of trying.
Hypocritization is definitely about the top of my annoyance short list. Wouldn't be surprised if the "I know, but I need to save a buck too" excuse is in order if she ever gets confronted with this...

 

[snakeblitz33]

Ah, ok. So your not going to call the INS? That's good. whew.
There are other ways of tormenting her... trust me.

 

[t316]

Heather (and you) have to keep the two entities separated. This has nothing to do with the bar, other than one night (most likely a few more) of kissing butt with no tips. This is a business owner who is catering to her workers from another job. This has nothing to do with Heather's job, unless she starts showing signs of employing them at the bar and replacing Heather.
I do not advocate hiring illegals, but in this case, I believe I would back down and do the job that my boss has asked.
The only way that I would consider calling INS in this case, is that if Heather secures another job first. Then make the call, because most likely, there will be a negative effect on the bar.

 

[whitebird]

Make the call !!!! that is what's wrong in this country now people looking the other way when you know the law is being made fun of , and now you know why the bar owner has money doing things the illegal way Make the call

 

[aw2x3]

Oh, no...it has nothing to do with impeding Heathers job.
I'm just irritated that the bar owner will complain, daily, about local people being out of work...and then turn around and drive to Texas, to pick up illegals, bring them back and let them work for her.
This isn't going to be a one night thing. They're put up, by the bar owner, in a local motel. The weekend starts tomorrow and this is a country, redneck bar. I guarantee that once more people find out and show up, tomorrow night, the illegals won't be coming back to the bar.

 

[t316]

Originally Posted by Whitebird
http:///forum/post/3147763
Make the call !!!! that is what's wrong in this country now people looking the other way when you know the law is being made fun of , and now you know why the bar owner has money doing things the illegal way Make the call
Totally agree with your thought process, but the call would be to report illegals working at her house. Have you ever seen INS show up at a construction worksite? It's like a swarm of bees seeing a can of RAID coming at them.
Illegals sitting at the bar is not going to convince INS to come in. They want to catch them on the job and congregated. It has to be a pain in the azz to serve them, with no tips, so I might would bring that up to the owner.

 

[aw2x3]

Oh, when I made the comment about calling INS, I wasn't referring to calling right now. I was going to wait till they were on the job site, tomorrow.

 

[t316]

Originally Posted by AW2x3
http:///forum/post/3147771
Oh, when I made the comment about calling INS, I wasn't referring to calling right now. I was going to wait till they were on the job site, tomorrow.
As long as you don't think the boss will make the corelation as to where the call originated from....then by all means do it

But keep in mind that a call to INS is not like calling 911 and reporting a r*pe in progress. No, they are about as backed up as a fat guy with constipation. They may ride by and take notes, but even that might be a freakin' week from now.
Just letting you know what to expect. This won't be a tactical unit running in and handcuffing everyone, but rather a long term "investigation" that will probably include them checking into her bar as well.

 

[aw2x3]

My "I'm calling INS" rant was just that...a rant. I realize that if I called them, there wouldn't be SWAT teams and INS agents, coming out of the woodwork.
It was just my attempt to blow off some steam.
Within the past 10 minutes, I had one of them squeeze by me and say "Get out of my way, white boy" and another that tried to strike up a conversation, letting me know about his mother, father and siblings, back in Mexico, that he's sending money to...
Well, I won't repeat what I said, to end that conversation quick, fast and in a hurry. I will say that in the past 10 minutes, my patience has waned and I've switched from beer to whiskey.
It may be a long night. I have friends, in Border Patrol, that are risking their lives, every single day...friends who have been shot, shot at, beaten, etc. I have no patience for blatant disrespect of our country, like this.

 

[jemshores]

What a shrewd business move by your Gf's boss. She pays them cheap wages and then they go to her bar and spend the money (minus what gets sent to Mexico for family). Depending on what kind of remodeling/construction she is having done I would think she would need permit(s). I for one, would not sit back-they will never know where the call came from-I would make it in a heartbeat. (I love the Raid reference....I also witnessed that first hand, and boy can they run!!)

 

[zman1]

Where is DARTH and Reef on this one... If there were not people hiring IAs they wouldn't be here... Need to have the laid-off construction workers picket the bar and home.

 

[spanko]

Just watching.

 

[dragonzim]

Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3147815
Where is DARTH and Reef on this one... If there were not people hiring IAs they wouldn't be here... Need to have the laidoff construction workers picket the bar and home.
I agree with that one. All those friends of hers that are laid off construction workers should stop patronizing her bar immediately and picket outside.
I think I also would have had to kick the crap out of that one POS that said "Outta my way white boy"

 

[flower]

Illegal aliens...taking American jobs...
What a sad world we live in...Does anyone even know what is engraved on the statue of liberty? Unless you are an American Indian...you are an alien as well...someone let your ancestors come and work and become part of the society. Now you are too good when others try and eke out some meager amount of money...they get paid slave wages, and with that pittance can feed their whole family.
Americans have unions so they can make top dollar, the state will feed them, pay their rent, and medical bills, if you are destitute..Even a paycheck for a short time if you lose your job. You, bath in cleaner water than they drink, when these people don't work they really do starve and die.
I know we can't take in the whole world...but how do you not turn your head for a short time and just not look, let a fellow human being feed his family.

 

[dragonzim]

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3147832

Illegal aliens...taking American jobs...
What a sad world we live in...Does anyone even know what is engraved on the statue of liberty? Unless you are an American Indian...you are an alien as well...someone let your ancestors come and work and become part of the society. Now you are too good when others try and eke out some meager amount of money...they get paid slave wages, and with that pittance can feed their whole family.
Americans have unions so they can make top dollar, the state will feed them, pay their rent, and medical bills, if you are destitute..Even a paycheck for a short time if you lose your job. You, bath in cleaner water than they drink, when these people don't work they really do starve and die.
I know we can't take in the whole world...but how do you not turn your head for a short time and just not look, let a fellow human being feed his family.
True, someone let our ancestors in to work, but they came in legally, not by hopping a fence at the border or in the back of a box truck How many poor, starving people do we have in our country that could use the work?

 

[zman1]

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3147832

Illegal aliens...taking American jobs...
What a sad world we live in...Does anyone even know what is engraved on the statue of liberty? Unless you are an American Indian...you are an alien as well...someone let your ancestors come and work and become part of the society..
I agree with the American Indian part, however, wasn't Ellis Island right there by the Statue of Liberty. That was the legal way to imigrate and not all were allowed to imigrate either. Same with H1B visas - While we were laying off white collar programmers, we were hiring H1B programmers. It's truly SAD that we have accepted AMERICANs last philosophy in the USA...

 

[crypt keeper]

Flower there is way more too it than just here to work and feed familys. 70% of these people have zero respect for any laws or human life. They kill each other over $30. I will write more when home