h2ointolerant
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i 'm thinking on ordering one of these.anyone have a pic of one they ordered from them?
wild percs from swf.com
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fromoe
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Originally Posted by fishyCPA
http:///forum/post/2474460
Why not wild? Besides, wild are more likely to host an anemone.
because there is no need to take another fish from ocean unnecessarily.
http:///forum/post/2474460
Why not wild? Besides, wild are more likely to host an anemone.
because there is no need to take another fish from ocean unnecessarily.
h2ointolerant
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Originally Posted by fishyCPA
http:///forum/post/2474460
Why not wild? Besides, wild are more likely to host an anemone.
well thats one reason but i just wondering if they really had that much black in them as they show on their site.
http:///forum/post/2474460
Why not wild? Besides, wild are more likely to host an anemone.
well thats one reason but i just wondering if they really had that much black in them as they show on their site.
fishycpa
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The differences in the amout of black a clown has or does not have is based on the "breed" of the clown. True percs have more black than "false percs/ocellaris". BTW...don't let anyone guilt you into buying a tank bred fish. It is ok to buy wild caught. It is a heavily regulated and safe practice that allows us to have tanks in the first place. That debate has been taking place on here for a long time. Compare the true vs. false percs and decide what you want.
srgvigil
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I'm not sure if this is true or not I read it in a book can someone correct me if its not
I read that Wild Clowns are less likely to acclimate to a tank envirorment (spelling) and are more prone to disease. EIther way go for a Tank or a Wild really makes no differece because theyre both awsm
I read that Wild Clowns are less likely to acclimate to a tank envirorment (spelling) and are more prone to disease. EIther way go for a Tank or a Wild really makes no differece because theyre both awsm
browniebuck
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we just got two wild false perculas today and they don't look any different than the two aquacultured false perculas in our other tank. One of them has black around all fins and the other doesn't have the black around the ?flippers?. I will definitely say that they are TINY (and very personable). They have explored the tank and seem to be doing ok...I drip acclimated them for 2+ hours after temp acclimating for over 1/2 hour. We didn't intentionally order them, it was a misclick on our order, but we are happy with them so far.
sac10918
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I am not preaching that tank raised is the only way to go (I actually own a wild caught saddleback clownfish myself) but it seems to me that if the fish you want is available as an aquacultured specimen, why not?
Here is some info from "Clownfishes" by Joyce Wilkerson...
Tank raised clowns (in general) are more accustomed to people, their fry are easier to rear (calmer, less demanding of high water quality, and more tolerant of foods), they are always young fish, they are already acclimated to aquarium life and aquarium foods, they have been exposed to much less shipping stress than wild fish (which may be handled by a collector, a wholesaler, an exporter, several airlines, a customs inspector, a distributor, and a retailer before you get it). Furthermore, tank raised specimens harbor fewer internal parasites than wild caught counterparts.
Some people claim that tank raised clownfish do not host anemones as readily as wild caught ones, but this isnt necessarily true. Many wild caught clowns will never host, and many tank raised ones will. Its sort of a luck-of-the-draw thing so I wouldnt let this be the deciding factor in which kind you decide to buy.
Ultimately, its up to each hobbyist to decide the inhabitants in their tank...
Here is some info from "Clownfishes" by Joyce Wilkerson...
Tank raised clowns (in general) are more accustomed to people, their fry are easier to rear (calmer, less demanding of high water quality, and more tolerant of foods), they are always young fish, they are already acclimated to aquarium life and aquarium foods, they have been exposed to much less shipping stress than wild fish (which may be handled by a collector, a wholesaler, an exporter, several airlines, a customs inspector, a distributor, and a retailer before you get it). Furthermore, tank raised specimens harbor fewer internal parasites than wild caught counterparts.
Some people claim that tank raised clownfish do not host anemones as readily as wild caught ones, but this isnt necessarily true. Many wild caught clowns will never host, and many tank raised ones will. Its sort of a luck-of-the-draw thing so I wouldnt let this be the deciding factor in which kind you decide to buy.
Ultimately, its up to each hobbyist to decide the inhabitants in their tank...
reefmate75
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my 2 cents is to buy the tank raised ones as they are better suited for tank life, wild ones may become acustom to someone walking by all the time and moveing stuff and being surrounded by glass but they may not and becomne stressed and die, where the tanjk rasied ones arnt as shy as wild ones, my percs where tank raised and DO host a anemone, my maroons where wild i got them befor i knew people where breeding saltwater fishes, and they host only anemons, unlike the percs, they will go into anything that looks fluffy
and when you think about the millions of fish they take out to be sold to hobbiest dont think its not impacting the ocean that much
again thats just my 2 cents
and when you think about the millions of fish they take out to be sold to hobbiest dont think its not impacting the ocean that much
again thats just my 2 cents
h2ointolerant
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i didn't want to start a debate on wild or tank raised.i do own a trio of tank raised false clowns now two o&w and a b&w,as of know they get along well in my 55.they let the b&w sleep next to there fake cup coral they host at night and when lights come on the b&w moves off to my toadstool dam him
. i bought him a nice gbta in hopes he would eventually find it, no such luck, but at least the clownfish algae clip is hosting it now.i'm hoping it would draw him over there well time will tell .the thing i like about the wild caught true perc is there coloration there brighter orange in color and the thick black border.i know that more than a pair of clowns could be trouble and there are steps that are already taken if things go wrong.and i dont think anyone can argue all the good points over tank raised to wild.but what im trying to do a wild stands a better chance of it happening.anyway here are some pics for you to enjoy, and i thank you all for your input and if anyone has a pic of there bali caught percs i would like to see them. thanks.pics are of current tank 55 and there eventual new home my 150 build im working on.still have to finish the tank and the room remodel
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browniebuck
Active Member
Well...the wild false perculas both kicked the bucket.
I never saw them eat, but they were fine from Saturday through Monday...yesterday while I was at school, they took a turn. When I went to feed last night, one of them was dead.
This morning, the other was dead. They didn't have ick and, as best as I could tell, they weren't being picked on (though there is a yellowtail damsel in the tank, but he hasn't caused any problems in the past). They were tiny, which I am sure didn't help their cause...I am bigtime bummin' now, they were such cute little fish
h2ointolerant
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thanks brownie.