WMD'S Found a while ago

37g joe

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hmmmm No weapons of mass destruction huh?
June 23, 2004 U.S forces seized 1.77 tons of enriched Uranium ( type used for atomic bombs) according to BBC news(might I add they dont like bush). Department of Energy experts also removed 1,000 radioactive materails in "powderd for" which is used to make Dirty bombs. Said by Brian Wilkes. an energy department spokesmen.
Polish General Marek dukacsweski revealed that polish forces had revealed tips from Iraqis that Chemical weapons had been sold to terorist groups. The weapons had been buried to avoid detection The Generl told the bbc that military officals had bought seventeen chemical weapons war-heads from Iraqis for $5000 each to keep from Iraq's so called insurgents. Test confirmed that some of the weapons contained Cyclosarin a nerve gas five times more powerful than sarin gas. These weapons where sapose to be destroyed during U.N inspections but these WMD's survived what else might have.
U.S soldiers stomed a warehouse in Mosul, Iraq on august 8, 2005 and found 1500 gallons of chemical agents.
Roadside bombs that have exploaded in Iraq have been found with saringas such as one that exploded near aU.S convoy on may 17, 2004 the shell was a Binary chemical projectile that Was Improvised explosive which was saposed to be destreoyed in 1991 but was not.
The Iraq Survey Group led by David Key discoverd a projectile loaded with mustard Gas attached to a roadside bomb in may of 2004 the mustard gas shell is belived to be a part of 80 TONS of such gas still unacounted for
in 1998 U.N inspectors found evidence that Iraq was making VX nerve gas, Iraq first Denied making VX, Than claimed it only made 200 liters, and then claimed that it had made 3,900 liters but failed to "weaponize it". But they never prove that it was never weaponized.
If you want me to post more info I can but I think I already made my case.
All this info is easly backed up and has been proven to be correct by several outlets.
 

ruaround

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"Could Sadaam make da BLTs and is it worf fighting ova a BLT"...Ali G
fabrication for justification...who is fabricating???
 

darth tang

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Even though we have found some things....the term stockpiles is subject to determination unfortunately. The majority of the people, including the government and the world I believe, had envisioned a lot more....which is the problem.
Darth (look in Syria and Iran) Tang
 

jmick

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Borat is great, loved the skit where he went door to door with republican politician or when he did the wine tasting…funny stuff.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Darth Tang
Even though we have found some things....the term stockpiles is subject to determination unfortunately. The majority of the people, including the government and the world I believe, had envisioned a lot more....which is the problem.
Darth (look in Syria and Iran) Tang
hence the fabrication statement... who is???
ru(whats with nicknaming yourself)around<---kinda fun though!!!
 

scubadoo

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I beleive some liberals will require a warhead or WMD "ammo" be found in their butt before they will admit they exist and/or existed. Oh, is that where they moved them?
 

37g joe

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1.77 tons of enriched Uranium could put us back into an Ice age if used corectly. Thats enough of a stock pile in my opinion.
 

37g joe

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Alright next subject: If WMD's were not enough Reason
The Al Qaeda and Iraq Conection
In Czech The Czech Intelegence observed between march 1999 and april 22, 2001 Mohammed Atta(september 11 ringleader) and Iraqi diplomat Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samiral-ani having secret meetins at Iraq's Czech Embassy
Photographs Taken by Malaysian Intlegence in january 2000 place Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, an Iraqi Intelegence operative at key planing meetings with Alqaeda members for the bombing of the USS Cole and the september 11 attacks
In 1992 According to Iraqi Intelligence documents obtained after the war, Bin Laden met with Iraqi intelegence officials in Syria
sudanese Intelligence Officials reported that thier agents observed Meetings between Iraqi Intelgence agents and bin Laden starting in 1994 when Bin Laden Lived in Khartoum
Michael Scheur Critic of bush admistration and former head of CIA Bin laden info gathering Unit wrote in his 2002 book "Through our Enemies eyes" that Bin Laden "made a connection withIraq's intelligence service through Khartoum station
Bin Laden met at least 8 times with officials of iraq's special security organization, a secret police run by saddam's son qusay
Bin Laden met the Director of the Iraqi Mukhabarat, Iraq's external intelligence service, in Khartoum in 1996
an Al qaeda operative now heald by the united states confessed that in the mid 1990's, Bin Ladden had forged an agreement with Sadam's men to cease all terrorist activities against the Iraqi dictator
Patrick Fitzgerald an U.S. attorney in the Clinton Justice department reported that " Al Qaeda reached an understanding with the goverment of iraq that Al qaeda would not work against the goverment of Iraq and on paticular Projects, specifically including Weapons Development , al Qaeda would work cooperativly with the goverment of Iraq"
In 1999, the GUARDIAN, Britians leading left-Liberal newspaer, reported that Faruq al-Hijazi, a senior officer in Iraq's Mukhabarat, Journed deep into the Icy mountains near Khandahar, Afghanastan, In december 1998 to meet with al qaeda officers. Al-Hijazi is "thought to have offered bin Laden Asylum in Iraq" the Guardian reported
In 2000, Saudi Arabia went on Kingdom-wide alert after learning that Iraq had agreed to help al Qaeda attack U.S. and British Interests on the peninsula
The pentagons Defence Intelligence Agency has Authenticated Iraqi Documents uncoverd in april 2003 at Iraqi intelligence headquaters reporting " in 1998 al Qaeda sent a 'Trusted Confidante' to baghdad for sixteen days of meetings begining march 5. Iraqi intelligence paid for his stay in room 414 of the mansur al-Melia hotel and expressed hope that the envoy would serve as the Liaison between Iraqi intelligence and bin Laden
In october 2000, another Iraqi Intelligence opertaive, Salah Suleiman was arrested near Afghan border by Pakistan authorities, according "janes Foreighn report" a respected internation newsletter, Reprted that Suleiman whas shuttling between Iraqi intelligenc and ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's secound in command
As recently as 2001, Iraq's embassy in Pakistan was used as a "liaison" between the Iraqi dictator and al Qaeda
Qassem Hussein Muhammed, A20 year veteran of Iraqi intelligence interviewd by New yorker veteran reporter Jeffrey Gold-berg in 2002. Muhammed said: that he was one of seventeen bodygaurds assigned to protect al-Zawahiri a 1992 trip to Iraq. AL-Zawahiri, according to muhammed, stayed at the al-Rashid hotel in Baghdad. Muhaammed claime he was apart of the security detail that took al-Zawahiri to one of saddam's palaces for a meeting with the dictator
Both ABC news Nightline and PBS's WIDE ANGLE, interviewd a "twenty-year veteran of iraqi Intelligence " who told the same story he was not named by Wide angle. Nightline Identified him by his nom de guerre, Abu Aman Amaleeki. he reported that in 1992 elements of al qaeda came to baghdad and met with saddam Hussein, Among them was Ayman al-Zawahiri
another visit by al-Zawahiri, in september 1999, was confirmed by former Iraqi premier Iyad Allawi with a reporter from the pan-arab daily AL-Hayat. Allawi said the Iraqi secret service had documents detailing the relationship between Saddam hussein and al Qaeda
Allawi said that al-Zawahiri was invite to attend the ninth popular Islamic conference by Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, Saddam's own secound in command The Iraqi goverment has the invitation and other documents
Yusuf Galan is a spanish convert to Islam. He has been linked to al qaeda by spanish investigative juge Balastar Garazon and he was charged with preperation and planing of september 11 attacks. in the course of the investigation spanish police searched his house and foun many doccuments related to Al Qaeda Including an invitation to a party at the Iraq embassy in Madrid Galan worked for the former roomate of Mohammed Atta The invitation use his "al Qaeda Nom de guerre
 

37g joe

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Originally Posted by ruaround
only if the Uranium is processed... spy plains would catch the factories that do so...
actually Enriched uranium is processed unenriched uranium is un processed
 

37g joe

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Here is some more:
Documents found among the debris of the iraqi intelligence center show that Baghdad funded the Allied Democratic forces, AUgandan terror group led by an Islamist cleric linked to bin laden. The organization offered to recruit young people "to train for the jihad" at a "headquaters for international holy warrior network" to be established in baghdad.
The Aribic- Language daily Al-hayat reported on may 23, 2005. " A detained al Qaeda member tells us that saddam was more willing to assist al qaeda after the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and tanzania. Saddam was also impressed by the attacks on the Uss cole in october 2000
Mullah Melan Krekar ran a terrror group (ansar al-Islam) liked to bin ladden and Saddam Hussein. krekar admitted to a kurdish newspaper of meeting with Bin Laden and other al Gaeda officials in afghanistan.his meetings go back to 1988. when he organize ansar al-islam in 2001 to cunduct suicide attacks on americans, three bin Ladden officials showed up with a gift of $300,000 to undertake the Jihad (newsday reported). he is now in custody in the netherlands. his group operated in a portion of northern Iraq loyal to saddam hussein-- and attacked independent kurdish groups hostile to Saddam. A spokes man for the patriotic Union of Kurdistan told a united press international correspondent that Krekar's group was funded by Saddam husseins regi,e in Baghdad.
Le Monde, the

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based center-left daily reported on july 9, 2005 that Anar al-islam was founded in 2001 with the joint help of Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.
In 1992 the Iraqi Intellegence service compiled a list of its assets. on page 14 of the document, marked "top secret" and dated march 28, 1992 is the name of osama Bin Laden, who is reported to have a "good relationshi" with the Iraqqi intelligence section in Syria. The U.S defense intelligence agency has possession of the document and has assessed that it is accurate
after october 2001, hundreds of al qaed fighter are belived to have hold up in Ansar al-islams strongholds inside northern Iraq.
 

37g joe

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Originally Posted by Jmick
What would have been their method of delivery?
thier are desighns on the internet that you can get that have full atomic bomb scematics i have even seen them. the hardist part is to establish a confined implosion using presure caps. in the 1940's it was difficult to time the multiple charges but now with the advent of cheap micrpchips is quite easy in comparison to what people think. C4 can be used as the explosive detonator to create the implosion.
 

37g joe

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If you guys want to read a real good book that has all this info in it and detailed sorces ( Iraq and al qaeda and wmd info i gave you)
go pick up Richard Miniter's book: Disinformation; 22 media Myths that undermine the war on terror.
 

petieaztec

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all it takes is a chemical reaction then boom. how do you think dinamite works? you don't need all the shell caseings those are just for the handlers protection.
 

37g joe

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Originally Posted by Johnzo
Something like this
thats not so far from the truth all it would take is for a few ounces of radioactive material in powderd form which we know they had large amounts of to be riged to some small explosive such as a grenade and thrown out of say a small cesna or helocopter over a large city the wind would do the rest it would cause mass histeria and people would evacuatue in droves and cause panic many lives would be lost.
 
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