Would You Hire a Vocal Atheist?

garnet13aj

garnet13aj

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I belong to a religious philosophy group on campus where we bring people of all faiths together to discuss religion in all aspects of life from personal experience to societal and world effects. We began discussing the topic of atheists on Youtube. Some atheists have used youtube as a media of expression and while some of them are open about their identities others disguise themselves.
In this day and age, when you go in for a job interview it is likely that your future employer will search the web for informaiton about you. This question is:
Would you hire someone who had all the other qualifications to work for your company if you discovered a youtube video of them expressing atheistic ideals?
 
1journeyman

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I voted "no", but that's assuming 2 candidates were up for the same job and had the same qualifications. As far as I know you can't "not hire" someone based on their religious or lack of religious beliefs.
 
ruaround

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who cares what they believe or dont believe in... as long as they get the job done and dont preach to any associates while on the clock, on company property or at company functions... goes for ANY religion...
 
shogun323

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I say yes the employer should hire them because not hiring them due to being and Aetheist is discrimination. That be like me not getting hired because of a video of me on Youtube from when I worked with Youth Ministry. (Note, I did work with Youth Ministry but there are no videos of me on the web..... at least that I know of.)
As far as being "vocal" goes, if they disrupting the office with their views they are gone. Work is not a place to push religous or political views.
I bet this thread is closed before it reaches page 2.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by shogun323
I bet this thread is closed before it reaches page 2.
We'll see. As long as people keep it civil there's no need to close it.
 
garnet13aj

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I voted yes because being open atheist does not give away anything about a persons ability to do their job or their personality and how that will affect the job atmosphere. And obviously it would be against the law but this is a hypothetical situation so your answer can be based on a number of things. Some people would hire him/her because it would be agains the law not to while others may say, if no one else knows about my reason I woudn't because of my perception of atheists etc.
Also, obviously someone who was affecting the job environment by being too vocal of their opinions, no matter the topic, should be fired if they are becoming a distraction, etc, but a vocal atheist outside of work isn't necesarily a vocal atheist at work.
Maybe this topic won't be interesting enought to people to make it to page 2, but let's all try to be civil while still openly expressing our opinions because an open civil discussion is a lot more intersting than a closed volatile one.
 
pontius

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it would help to know specifically what the job is. if the job were to be minister of a church, then I definitely wouldn't hire an atheist. but for most other jobs, yeah, why not?
If I were the boss of any company, I'd really prefer people that would keep their personal lives to themselves, whether they're religious or not. I don't completely care to know about co-workers' religions, family, mistresses, political beliefs, etc etc etc. when people bring their personal lives to work, that's when the trouble usually starts. so I guess I'm saying I'd prefer a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy.
 
catawaba

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Religious beliefs have nothing to do with 99% of jobs and their qualifications. Exceptions may be with positions within a religious affiliated company.
Would it matter if they were gay?
Would it matter if they were single?
Would it matter if they were Democratic?
Would it matter if they were Pro-Choice?
Would it matter if they wore boxers or briefs?
Would it matter if they were hispanic or black or French?
It's called discrimination and it's unacceptable.
We are all equal.
Period.
 
shogun323

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Originally Posted by Catawaba
Religious beliefs have nothing to do with 99% of jobs and their qualifications. Exceptions may be with positions within a religious affiliated company.
Would it matter if they were gay?
Would it matter if they were single?
Would it matter if they were Democratic?
Would it matter if they were Pro-Choice?
Would it matter if they wore boxers or briefs?
Would it matter if they were hispanic or black or French?
It's called discrimination and it's unacceptable.
We are all equal.
Period.

Well said.
 
shogun323

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Originally Posted by garnet13aj
Maybe this topic won't be interesting enought to people to make it to page 2, but let's all try to be civil while still openly expressing our opinions because an open civil discussion is a lot more intersting than a closed volatile one.
I see where my statement about making it to page 2 came off pesimistic. I was saying that merely because threads involving politics and/or religon usually get ugly quick. I hope that doesnt happen here.
Cheers!!!
~Wade
 
garnet13aj

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Sounds like the "it's discrimination" response is most prevelent and it's nice to hear. Most people thought it would be a high percentage of "no" answers at the meeting. We'll have to wait for more people to cast their vote, but it's looking to be the opposite.
A little background as to why people thought there would be a strong "no" response can be show by a recent survey conducted by Universtiy of Minnesota that found that atheists are the least trusted of all minority groups in America.
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2006/03/24/67686
 
chadman

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is there really any discussion here...do you know the laws....there is no way anyone should be looked down upon based on there faith....as long as it is not a faith which preaches harm to others....
 
lion_crazz

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Originally Posted by Catawaba
Religious beliefs have nothing to do with 99% of jobs and their qualifications. Exceptions may be with positions within a religious affiliated company.
Would it matter if they were gay?
Would it matter if they were single?
Would it matter if they were Democratic?
Would it matter if they were Pro-Choice?
Would it matter if they wore boxers or briefs?
Would it matter if they were hispanic or black or French?
It's called discrimination and it's unacceptable.
We are all equal.
Period.

Yep, discrimination is wrong, no matter what the issue is. Religious beliefs do not effect how a person does his or her job, so that is no reason not to hire an individual.
 
garnet13aj

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I don't know specifically about being more educated, but there is a correlation between the most literate cities and the most secular cities.
 
lion_crazz

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Originally Posted by garnet13aj
I don't know specifically about being more educated, but there is a correlation between the most literate cities and the most secular cities.
No one said the atheist would be "more educated". Jmick only said that they most likely would be "well-educated".
 
garnet13aj

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I'll agree that I may have misinterpreted jmick's statement, but saying that a category of people is well educated implies that they have to be more educated than other categories of people or else they would just be described as "educated". Am I wrong? If so, the correlation between literacy and secular cities is still a fact.
 
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