WOW! Christmas Controversy...

space_geek

Active Member
Well, I had church tonight, as I went to the Christmas Eve Vigil at my church. I myself am Roman Catholic. Anyway, Father George (our priest) during his homily brought up some VERY GOOD POINTS I thought I would share about the sudden controversy over Christmas. The first thing he spoke about was that with stores it really shouldnt matter whether things say "Happy Holidays," or "Merry Christmas." Here is his reasoning, " A store is a place you go to where they sell stuff you most of the time really don't need." LOL! " It is not a place to be concerned about religion, it is simply a place to purchase goods!" And the second point he brought up is that holiday is simply the shortened word for HOLYDAY, so either way you are still basically saying merry christmas. So saying Happy Holidays is really no more controversial that Merry Christmas. And a point I have is that there are jews, christians, and muslims in my town...and I know people from all three religions. THEY ALL CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS! They may not neccessarily believe in Jesus Christ, but many take part in the lights and gifts, no matter what the religion! A rabbi that lives near by tells me merry christmas, has a christmas tree, and has lights on his house! So, thats just my 2 cents. Feel free to comment on your opinion!
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!
Adam
 
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jcrim

Guest
Just a quick response here. First, there is no problem with a private business showing their christmas spirit. The debate is when the government does this. The constitution offers no protection from the acts of private citizens. Second, christmas is not a jewish or islamic holiday. Although many jews and muslims enjoy this time of year, you are incorrect in thinking that all three of these religions celebrate christmas.
 

space_geek

Active Member
I did not state myself correctly. I am NOT saying that they celebrate christmas, I meant to say that many do participate in it though, because it is a lot of fun.
 
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jcrim

Guest
You are right... it's a great time of year and a beautiful holiday no matter what your religion is.
 

salty tank

Member
I think anyone who gets offended by any of this is a fool. If i was jewish and someone said merry christmas to me i wouldnt be offended at all. Hell, i wouldnt care.
 

jer4916

Active Member
I work at Best Buy a large retailer,....i tell every customer merry christmas.... they can be offened or not.... not my problem.
we live in the united states. Freedom of speech.
:)
Plus i believe firmly in Jesus Christ...and show no worries of offending someone over it. They can like it...or suck on a lemon. :)
~Chris
 

dogstar

Active Member
I like to show respect to other people when it comes to their religons. If I know someone is Jewish then I will say happy Hanukkuh to them and Merry Christmas to a Christian and if I dont know what religon someone is then I will say Happy holidays.
 

oceanists

Active Member
I will say Merry Christmas this is the United states of america , where my forefathers fought for my right to say merry christmas , no one will take that away from me , I will contyinue to say merry christmas well after a law is passed that bans it , it has and always be merry christmas in my home and my family .......... people have way to much time on thier hands This is what is going to happen ............... First Christ is going to be taken out of christmas ......... we wont have that rightful;ly anymore ...... Second HOlloween will be canceled do to people being offended by children hgaving fun ..... Third Thanksgiving will be gone because somebody is going to say well we stole this land from the indians .............. Next Valentines day will be gone due to gay people not having the same laws as traditional couples ......... then Easter will be forbid because once again this deals with religion and christ ............. then memorial day , 4th of july , and labor day will be gone because we should not be focusing on and celebrating the morbid past .......... then goes New years because really in the bible the new year really doesnt start untill febuary and we have nothing
 

fish_feed6

Member
didnt christmas used to be about being nice to eachother and respecting your fellow man even if he was an enemy of some sort...why do companies jump into everything. *cough* mothers and fathers day *cough*
 

dogstar

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fish_Feed6
didnt christmas used to be about being nice to eachother and respecting your fellow man even if he was an enemy of some sort...why do companies jump into everything. *cough* mothers and fathers day *cough*
Thats what Jesus said we should do. But thats for ppl. who understand him.
Now Christmas was put in between Yule And Hanukka by the old church leaders so Christains could celebrate when all the other faiths were. Jesus was born in the spring say most scholars.
 

michelle l

Member
Originally Posted by Oceanists
I will say Merry Christmas this is the United states of america , where my forefathers fought for my right to say merry christmas , no one will take that away from me , I will contyinue to say merry christmas well after a law is passed that bans it , it has and always be merry christmas in my home and my family .......... people have way to much time on thier hands This is what is going to happen ............... First Christ is going to be taken out of christmas ......... we wont have that rightful;ly anymore ...... Second HOlloween will be canceled do to people being offended by children hgaving fun ..... Third Thanksgiving will be gone because somebody is going to say well we stole this land from the indians .............. Next Valentines day will be gone due to gay people not having the same laws as traditional couples ......... then Easter will be forbid because once again this deals with religion and christ ............. then memorial day , 4th of july , and labor day will be gone because we should not be focusing on and celebrating the morbid past .......... then goes New years because really in the bible the new year really doesnt start untill febuary and we have nothing

 
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jdragunas

Guest
friggin A!!! i hate this country! It's so stupid! People are ridiculous when it comes to this. 85% of the united states is christian, and therefore we celebrate christmas! We are a democracy - meant to represent the majority, not each and every minority. You don't see people getting mad, and wanting a different president for every political group! "ugh, the democrats aren't being properly represented... i want another president to represent the democrats, and i think we should only have to follow the rules of that president". that doesn't happen, and will never happen because majority rules! This country was founded on christianity, and therefore christianity shouldn't be taken away from it! Our forefathers didn't create this country so all religions would be represented equally, it was created so people of different religions aren't persecuted because of it. That's the way it used to be until all of this "merry christmas" crap came up. Now christians (the foundation of this country) are getting ---- because of our religion! It's all bull--- IMO. This is all proof that our society is going straight to hell!
 

darth tang

Active Member
If every member of this country has the right to free speech...then shouldn't the people in the government have the right to say Merry Christmas if they want...I believe they are covered under the free speech laws as well. Separation of church and state is NOT in the constitution or bill of rights....free speech is. Guess which wins due to law.
End of debate. Besides Christmas is over now. Everyone can stop saying happy holidays and move on. There is only one holiday left.
 
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