we have a 15 inch HOB refugium that's only 6 months old. We're breaking down as I am writing. It has a small coralife life to go on top. I also have a small rio pump that was supposed to be used with this, but we just used an extra return. Don't have an mud left or plants, paid $199 for setup which included the plants and mud and light. You could find the mud on another site for 19.99 and the plants we had came from our LFS for free. Let me know if you're intereseted. I can email you a pic to let you see the setup if you want.