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phixer

Active Member
Originally Posted by 37g Joe
Starbucks actually pays the coffee farmers reasonable prices for the coffee. Maybe you think they should cheat the Farmers? Also Starbucks is helping build schools, health clinics, coffee mills and other projects that benefit coffee communities.
STARBUCKS, FAIR TRADE, AND COFFEE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
• Starbucks and the Fair Trade movement share a common goal: to help ensure that farmers receive an equitable price for their coffee and strengthen their farms for the future.
Purchasing Fair Trade Certified™ coffee is one of a number of ways Starbucks cultivates stable relationships with farmers. Additional steps include paying substantial premiums for all coffee purchases, long term contracts and affordable credit for farmers, direct purchasing, investing in social projects in coffee communities, and C.A.F.E. Practices buying guidelines.
• Starbucks is North America’s largest purchaser of Fair Trade CertifiedTM coffee.
In fiscal 2005, Starbucks purchased 11.5 million pounds of Fair Trade Certified™ coffee, compared to 4.8 million pounds in fiscal 2004. This represents approximately 10 percent of global Fair Trade Certified™ coffee imports. In fiscal 2006, Starbucks plans to increase sales of our newly introduced Fair Trade product offerings and purchase 12 million pounds of Fair Trade Certified™ coffee.
• Starbucks sells Fair Trade Certified coffee around the world.
Starbucks is the only company licensed to sell Fair Trade Certified™ coffee in 23 countries, including Austria, Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Greece, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, United Kingdom and the United States.
• Starbucks is committed to paying equitable prices for all of our coffee. We do that to ensure that farmers make a profit and to encourage future production of high quality coffee.
Starbucks pays premium prices that are substantially over and above the prevailing commodity-grade coffee prices. In fiscal 2003, when prices for commercial-grade arabica coffee ranged from $0.55-$0.70 per pound, Starbucks paid an average of $1.20 per pound for all of our coffee. In fiscal 2005, Starbucks paid an
average price of $1.28 per pound, which was 23 percent higher than the average New York “C” market price
during the same time frame.
• Fair Trade Certified coffee is one part of a larger effort by Starbucks to be socially responsible in our relationships with coffee farmers and communities
Starbucks is committed to purchasing our coffee in an ethical and sustainable manner, regardless of labels and certifications. The Fair Trade system only certifies cooperatives of small-holder, family-owned farms, a system that currently produces about two percent of the world’s coffee supply. The majority of the high-quality coffee Starbucks purchases is grown by farmers outside this system, many of whom are small-holders. Fair Trade Certified™ coffee is one source of supply for our global coffee purchases.
• Starbucks works with several organizations to make credit available to coffee growers, which enables them to postpone selling their crops until the price is favorable.
In fiscal 2004, Starbucks committed $1million to Calvert Foundation, $2.5 million to Verde Ventures, managed by Conservation International, and $2.5 million to EcoLogic Finance for loans to coffee farmers. And additional $2.5 million was provided to EcoLogic Finance in fiscal 2005, not only to extend loans to coffee farmers but also to cocoa farmers.
• Starbucks is helping build schools, health clinics, coffee mills and other projects that benefit coffee communities.
For many years, Starbucks and a number of farms have collaborated to help improve the quality of life for farming families and their communities. Starbucks provides funding for projects by adding a “social development premium” over and above the price of coffee purchased from participating farms. The farm often matches Starbucks contribution with its own investment to support the project. In fiscal 2005, Starbucks invested $1.5 million in 40 social projects that ranged from education programs in Nicaragua to a hospital renovation in Papua New Guinea.
For more information about Starbucks sustainability practices, please review our
Corporate Social Responsibility Annual Report at www.starbucks.com/csrannualreport. Updated 3/07/06
http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/Sta...20fairtrade%22
Sorry for the short reply but Im too tired to sift through all of this. Sure Joe, cheat the farmers :hilarious. Starbucks owns you the way Mr Burns owns Smithers.
STARBUCKS

Im bored and really dont care to expend any more energy on this, that would be about as practical as 3 bucks for a cup of coffee. Maybe later.
:hilarious
 

phixer

Active Member
Originally Posted by 37g Joe
Also Starbucks and other quality Coffee providers use Aribica beans. Coffee such as the can grocerie store coffee is rubusto coffee its swill. The aribica bean costs more then rubusto bean another why ou pay more. http://www.ineedcoffee.com/02/06/arabica/
Also to all those people who dont like the extra bold coffee's starbucks offers ask for the mild coffee. also if you want to brew it your self Veona is a real nice coffee
WTF? To hell with that Yuppy crap. Tastes like Kimchi, real men drink beer (OK Sam Adams) and black coffee. Good luck finding that badger milk at sea.
 

shogun323

Active Member
Originally Posted by Phixer
WTF? To hell with that Yuppy crap. Tastes like Kimchi :hilarious real men drink beer (OK Sam Adams) and black coffee. Good luck finding that badger milk at sea. :hilarious

Gotta have my Sam Adams. I think I''ll crack one now!!
 

phixer

Active Member
Originally Posted by 37g Joe
Starbucks actually pays the coffee farmers reasonable prices for the coffee. Maybe you think they should cheat the Farmers? Also Starbucks is helping build schools, health clinics, coffee mills and other projects that benefit coffee communities.
STARBUCKS, FAIR TRADE, AND COFFEE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
• Starbucks and the Fair Trade movement share a common goal: to help ensure that farmers receive an equitable price for their coffee and strengthen their farms for the future.
Purchasing Fair Trade Certified™ coffee is one of a number of ways Starbucks cultivates stable relationships with farmers. Additional steps include paying substantial premiums for all coffee purchases, long term contracts and affordable credit for farmers, direct purchasing, investing in social projects in coffee communities, and C.A.F.E. Practices buying guidelines.
• Starbucks is North America’s largest purchaser of Fair Trade CertifiedTM coffee.
In fiscal 2005, Starbucks purchased 11.5 million pounds of Fair Trade Certified™ coffee, compared to 4.8 million pounds in fiscal 2004. This represents approximately 10 percent of global Fair Trade Certified™ coffee imports. In fiscal 2006, Starbucks plans to increase sales of our newly introduced Fair Trade product offerings and purchase 12 million pounds of Fair Trade Certified™ coffee.
• Starbucks sells Fair Trade Certified coffee around the world.
Starbucks is the only company licensed to sell Fair Trade Certified™ coffee in 23 countries, including Austria, Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Greece, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, United Kingdom and the United States.
• Starbucks is committed to paying equitable prices for all of our coffee. We do that to ensure that farmers make a profit and to encourage future production of high quality coffee.
Starbucks pays premium prices that are substantially over and above the prevailing commodity-grade coffee prices. In fiscal 2003, when prices for commercial-grade arabica coffee ranged from $0.55-$0.70 per pound, Starbucks paid an average of $1.20 per pound for all of our coffee. In fiscal 2005, Starbucks paid an
average price of $1.28 per pound, which was 23 percent higher than the average New York “C” market price
during the same time frame.
Starbucks is committed to purchasing our coffee in an ethical and sustainable manner, regardless of labels and certifications. The Fair Trade system only certifies cooperatives of small-holder, family-owned farms, a system that currently produces about two percent of the world’s coffee supply. The majority of the high-quality coffee Starbucks purchases is grown by farmers outside this system, many of whom are small-holders. Fair Trade Certified™ coffee is one source of supply for our global coffee purchases.
• Starbucks works with several organizations to make credit available to coffee growers, which enables them to postpone selling their crops until the price is favorable.
In fiscal 2004, Starbucks committed $1million to Calvert Foundation, $2.5 million to Verde Ventures, managed by Conservation International, and $2.5 million to EcoLogic Finance for loans to coffee farmers. And additional $2.5 million was provided to EcoLogic Finance in fiscal 2005, not only to extend loans to coffee farmers but also to cocoa farmers.
• Starbucks is helping build schools, health clinics, coffee mills and other projects that benefit coffee communities.
For many years, Starbucks and a number of farms have collaborated to help improve the quality of life for farming families and their communities. Starbucks provides funding for projects by adding a “social development premium” over and above the price of coffee purchased from participating farms. The farm often matches Starbucks contribution with its own investment to support the project. In fiscal 2005, Starbucks invested $1.5 million in 40 social projects that ranged from education programs in Nicaragua to a hospital renovation in Papua New Guinea.
For more information about Starbucks sustainability practices, please review our
Corporate Social Responsibility Annual Report at www.starbucks.com/csrannualreport. Updated 3/07/06
http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/Sta...20fairtrade%22

Im too tired to sift through all of this. Sure Joe, cheat the farmers :hilarious. Sometimes it can be difficult to gain a clear perspective of greed when you are standing in the middle of it.
I dont care if they are brewing with magic beans and fairy dust, coffee isnt worth $3 a cup. Where is the common sense here?
This is beyond nonsense, its stupidity.
 

shogun323

Active Member
Originally Posted by ImUrNamine
Ohhh!
I'm about to have some chocolate milk! :joy:

Oh yeah well my Samuel Adams was kept cool in my Cabellas (greatest outdoorsman store in the universe) koozie. What was your chocolate milk in?Can you top that???
Cheers!!
 

sign guy

Active Member
Im not reading all that
here is my opp.
1 we have a soul, unlike an animal running around in the woods we have some common since ........ some of at least.
2 We are all created = but as soon as you go and fonndel a 13yr girl you are now lower than me. I have no problem thinking I am better than some perv. I dont type alot so Ill stop there.
 

imurnamine

Active Member
Joe, you will be proud.
I'm enjoying a Starbuck's Frappuccino fudgesicle thingie. I usually just call it an orgasm on a stick...
 

soto

Member
i'm all for companies that exploit their employees, or in this case- farmers. don't care a single bit about the well being of farmers. know who i care about?
me.
that's right. me and my coffee and my nice bland coffee shop environment. it may sound selfish but it's honest. there will always be struggling farmers. they're not goin anywhere.
so i was at disneyland yesterday and i realized how great it was. just a nice environment. they do so good at creating this environment and this is partially because they treat their employees like dirt.
and that's a-ok with me. same with walmart. so i'm all for companies that trample on their employees and if the employees don't like it then they can quit. if the farmers don't like working for free then they can do something else.
now, as pointed out earlier, some people prefer the charming coffee clerk. that's fine. they're not me. i'm writing this from MY perspective and my perspective thinks the starbucks coffee clerks are irritating.
 

imurnamine

Active Member
If we had a Starbucks locally, I'd work there.
We only have Joe Muggs and Java Jaay's.
I like Java Jaay's very much.
 

phixer

Active Member
Originally Posted by soto
i'm all for companies that exploit their employees, or in this case- farmers. don't care a single bit about the well being of farmers. know who i care about?
me.
that's right. me and my coffee and my nice bland coffee shop environment. it may sound selfish but it's honest. there will always be struggling farmers. they're not goin anywhere.
so i was at disneyland yesterday and i realized how great it was. just a nice environment. they do so good at creating this environment and this is partially because they treat their employees like dirt.
and that's a-ok with me. same with walmart. so i'm all for companies that trample on their employees and if the employees don't like it then they can quit. if the farmers don't like working for free then they can do something else.
now, as pointed out earlier, some people prefer the charming coffee clerk. that's fine. they're not me. i'm writing this from MY perspective and my perspective thinks the starbucks coffee clerks are irritating.
Soto, there is a lot of merit to what you have to say.
It's good to hear from someone who lives in the real world and isnt afraid to tell it like it is.
 

phixer

Active Member
Originally Posted by ImUrNamine
Joe, you will be proud.
I'm enjoying a Starbuck's Frappuccino fudgesicle thingie. I usually just call it an orgasm on a stick...
:notsure:
 

akbuuur

Member
I dont care if they are brewing with magic beans and fairy dust, coffee isnt worth $3 a cup. Where is the common sense here?
AMEN!@
 

shogun323

Active Member
You can argue that $3 is high for a cup of coffee but you get what you pay for.
I also pay $7.69 for a sixer of Samuel Adams Boston Lager when I could pick up Natural Light or "The Beast" for what $3.50?????? No thanks!!!
You get what you pay for.
 

phixer

Active Member
Originally Posted by shogun323
You can argue that $3 is high for a cup of coffee but you get what you pay for.
I also pay $7.69 for a sixer of Samuel Adams Boston Lager when I could pick up Natural Light or "The Beast" for what $3.50?????? No thanks!!!
You get what you pay for.
At the Vons next door, Tao green tea is $1.00. At Starbucks its $1.80 for the same product. What's the difference... besides .80 cents. Am I getting more at Starbucks by paying .80 cents more for the same product?
I guess the extra .80 cents is price for looking cool while purchasing it at Starbucks.
 

shogun323

Active Member
Originally Posted by Phixer
At the Vons next door, Tao green tea is $1.00. At Starbucks its $1.80 for the same product. What's the difference... besides .80 cents. Am I getting more at Starbucks by paying .80 cents more for the same product?
I guess the extra .80 cents is price for looking cool while purchasing it at Starbucks.

Nice. :joy: I love starbucks coffee but that isnt the point I am trying to make. You are absolutely right, it is a trendy joint that is in it's peak. I am just saying that I would rather pay $3.00 for a cup of Starbucks or $2.20 for a cup of coffee at Vons next door to you than have a cup of burnt folgers from the local gas station for $1.00.
 
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