ibanez
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How terrible!!!! What have humans done to this earth. Supposedly could stain the coast of four states.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/04...Coast-on-alert
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/04...Coast-on-alert
Another Disgusting Oil Spill!!
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aquaknight
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Yea, the local news is following it pretty closely. We're here.
scottnlisa
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Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3263439
How terrible!!!! What have humans done to this earth. Supposedly could stain the coast of four states.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/04...Coast-on-alert
Well if you think about it, your hurting mother earth by posting this message unless your making your own electricity. Everything we do as the population of the earth polutes the earth someway, somehow.
http:///forum/post/3263439
How terrible!!!! What have humans done to this earth. Supposedly could stain the coast of four states.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/04...Coast-on-alert
Well if you think about it, your hurting mother earth by posting this message unless your making your own electricity. Everything we do as the population of the earth polutes the earth someway, somehow.
ibanez
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3263454
Probably dumped almost as much as naturally seeps into the ocean. It's a drag it happened but oil does find it's way into the ocean without any help from man.
I don't know if I buy that statement, even if so, it doesn't dump that amount in one confined location.
http:///forum/post/3263454
Probably dumped almost as much as naturally seeps into the ocean. It's a drag it happened but oil does find it's way into the ocean without any help from man.
I don't know if I buy that statement, even if so, it doesn't dump that amount in one confined location.
reefraff
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http://geology.com/nasa/oil-seeps/
http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/enviro/seeps2.htm
Actually pretty interesting stuff. Offshore drilling has actually decrease the natural seeps in some areas like Santa Barbara. The technology to control the spills is pretty dang good now days so hopefully this spill in the gulf wont ever see the shore.
http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/enviro/seeps2.htm
Actually pretty interesting stuff. Offshore drilling has actually decrease the natural seeps in some areas like Santa Barbara. The technology to control the spills is pretty dang good now days so hopefully this spill in the gulf wont ever see the shore.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3263473
I don't know if I buy that statement, even if so, it doesn't dump that amount in one confined location.
Time for a little lesson...
FAR more oil seeps out of the ground than gets spilled... They discovered oil off the coast of Cali, thanks to balls of oily tar rolling into huntington beach. One of the leading theories to what makes boats dissapear in the bermuda triangle are the massive areas of natural gas seeping from the floor... (no seriously)
A LOT of oil seems out of the ground.
http://www.livescience.com/environme...oil-seeps.html
The funny thing is, the ocean cleans itself up...
http:///forum/post/3263473
I don't know if I buy that statement, even if so, it doesn't dump that amount in one confined location.
Time for a little lesson...
FAR more oil seeps out of the ground than gets spilled... They discovered oil off the coast of Cali, thanks to balls of oily tar rolling into huntington beach. One of the leading theories to what makes boats dissapear in the bermuda triangle are the massive areas of natural gas seeping from the floor... (no seriously)
A LOT of oil seems out of the ground.
http://www.livescience.com/environme...oil-seeps.html
The funny thing is, the ocean cleans itself up...
ibanez
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When oil spills in areas that are natural, there probably isn't much affect on ocean life and coastal animals because it is natural there and the area his adapted to it. But when it spills near reefs and areas that aren't exposed to that, it is devistating. I guess the only thing would make this natural, is if they drilled where oil naturally leaked 40,000 some odd gallons per day into the water. I doubt that is the case. Also, I accept responsibility for what humans have done, doesn't mean it is in any of our power to change much. What if I am using wind generated power?
reefraff
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Wind and solar combined will never replace our current power needs. Going to have to depend on nuclear and natural gas.
As far as the big spill if we did nothing it would be devastating. The technology is there to clean it up. I don't think there will be a major impact unless a storm comes through and blow the slick on shore before it can be cleaned up.
As far as the big spill if we did nothing it would be devastating. The technology is there to clean it up. I don't think there will be a major impact unless a storm comes through and blow the slick on shore before it can be cleaned up.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3263475
Time for a little lesson...
FAR more oil seeps out of the ground than gets spilled... They discovered oil off the coast of Cali, thanks to balls of oily tar rolling into huntington beach. One of the leading theories to what makes boats dissapear in the bermuda triangle are the massive areas of natural gas seeping from the floor... (no seriously)
A LOT of oil seems out of the ground.
http://www.livescience.com/environme...oil-seeps.html
The funny thing is, the ocean cleans itself up...
Santa Barbara had the tar balls too. Huntington was one big oil field when I lived there back in the 60's. Mostly gone now but they still have the offshore stuff there but not much left on the land. When land shot up in the early 70's and oil was 10 bucks a barrel a lot of productive wells were abandoned.
http:///forum/post/3263475
Time for a little lesson...
FAR more oil seeps out of the ground than gets spilled... They discovered oil off the coast of Cali, thanks to balls of oily tar rolling into huntington beach. One of the leading theories to what makes boats dissapear in the bermuda triangle are the massive areas of natural gas seeping from the floor... (no seriously)
A LOT of oil seems out of the ground.
http://www.livescience.com/environme...oil-seeps.html
The funny thing is, the ocean cleans itself up...
Santa Barbara had the tar balls too. Huntington was one big oil field when I lived there back in the 60's. Mostly gone now but they still have the offshore stuff there but not much left on the land. When land shot up in the early 70's and oil was 10 bucks a barrel a lot of productive wells were abandoned.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3263548
Just heard the spill is only 30 miles offshore. Could be bad. Only thing going in favor of the beaches is a onshore wind. Hopefully they can get it rounded up before it hits the shore.
It all depends on which way the wind blows...
http:///forum/post/3263548
Just heard the spill is only 30 miles offshore. Could be bad. Only thing going in favor of the beaches is a onshore wind. Hopefully they can get it rounded up before it hits the shore.
It all depends on which way the wind blows...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3263549
It all depends on which way the wind blows...
So far the wind is onshore which will help. I assume that is lighter oil than the heavy gravity crap in Cal that tends to just ball up on it'self rather than coat everything.
http:///forum/post/3263549
It all depends on which way the wind blows...
So far the wind is onshore which will help. I assume that is lighter oil than the heavy gravity crap in Cal that tends to just ball up on it'self rather than coat everything.
mrdc
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What's going to really suck is if the underwater craft currently being used to cap the spill doesn't work. They said it would take 2 months before plan B could be in place to fix it. I heard it on the radio this morning and don't actually know what plan B is. But if this thing has to spew for 2 months, that would be disastrous. How much is coming out a day .... 46k gallons?
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3263578
What's going to really suck is if the underwater craft currently being used to cap the spill doesn't work. They said it would take 2 months before plan B could be in place to fix it. I heard it on the radio this morning and don't actually know what plan B is. But if this thing has to spew for 2 months, that would be disastrous. How much is coming out a day .... 46k gallons?
It all depends on whether the shutoff valves work. Plan B would be to drill down, and tap the well further down, then bypass the damaged area.
http:///forum/post/3263578
What's going to really suck is if the underwater craft currently being used to cap the spill doesn't work. They said it would take 2 months before plan B could be in place to fix it. I heard it on the radio this morning and don't actually know what plan B is. But if this thing has to spew for 2 months, that would be disastrous. How much is coming out a day .... 46k gallons?
It all depends on whether the shutoff valves work. Plan B would be to drill down, and tap the well further down, then bypass the damaged area.
bionicarm
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Read today the slick is the size of Rhode Island right now. Regardless if the ocean can 'clean itself up', it can and probably will have devastating effects on the environment, and specifically the Louisiana and Texas coasts. Look at what happened when that Chinese freighter ran aground on the Barrier Reef last month. They said the oil and gas spillage from that vessal has already killed a 2-mile patch of coral in that area. Divers have already accessed the area, and confirmed coral growth and marine life will be non-existent in that patch for at least 5 years, if it recovers at all.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3263592
Read today the slick is the size of Rhode Island right now. Regardless if the ocean can 'clean itself up', it can and probably will have devastating effects on the environment, and specifically the Louisiana and Texas coasts. Look at what happened when that Chinese freighter ran aground on the Barrier Reef last month. They said the oil and gas spillage from that vessal has already killed a 2-mile patch of coral in that area. Divers have already accessed the area, and confirmed coral growth and marine life will be non-existent in that patch for at least 5 years, if it recovers at all.
The texas coast is probably going to be fine. I think it is going to other way.
http:///forum/post/3263592
Read today the slick is the size of Rhode Island right now. Regardless if the ocean can 'clean itself up', it can and probably will have devastating effects on the environment, and specifically the Louisiana and Texas coasts. Look at what happened when that Chinese freighter ran aground on the Barrier Reef last month. They said the oil and gas spillage from that vessal has already killed a 2-mile patch of coral in that area. Divers have already accessed the area, and confirmed coral growth and marine life will be non-existent in that patch for at least 5 years, if it recovers at all.
The texas coast is probably going to be fine. I think it is going to other way.
reefraff
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If that is light crude it will make a heck of a mess if it hits the shore. That thick crud they pump off California would just ball up when they had a spill. Didn't seem to cause much damage other than your feet getting sticky from stepping on the tar balls when you went to the beach.
fishtaco
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Has anyone heard yet if they are going to be able to use the shut-off valve? Seems like it would take a little while to get another rig in place and re-drill a relief well. I don't know much about this stuff, is there a ship that can be used to drill or is there a oil platform "in stock" that they can use?
Fishtaco
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